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[the alarming man]

for Christ sake


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2953376/One-dead-dozens-injured-massive-motorway-pile-involving-30-vehicles-foggy-conditions.html

[Varche]

and keep your distance. A lot of folks valentines day ruined there

[ted_one]

The roads are getting scarier than ever,seems to be a culture of 'pressing on' no matter what the conditions are

[pauls]

I was up there this morning THICK fog tailgating and driving into the fog blind. I was amazed at how many idiots on the m40

[SteveAvfc.]

Driving culture has changed so much in recent years, on a trip from Bristol to Birmingham the other week  via the M5 I lost count of the number of people that under took. I was led to believe this is illegal, but it seems its all now so normal. Idiots !!!

[EMD]

Many seem oblivious to the conditions nowadays 

[TheBoy]

There are additional complications at that Bicester junctions, which is why there are frequent smashes there, even before the fog comes down.

Southbound, the outside-laners wait til the last minute to get off, in order to jump the (usually 0.5-1m) queue.  Only this means coming to a standstill in the "Middle" lane (just as it goes to 2 lanes), and can't seem to see the danger in a 70mph car ploughing into the back of them.

Northbound, those joining from the A34 have to get in the outside lane ASAP, else they obviously have a small penis.  For traffic on the motorway anyway, there is an odd, variable camber as the motorway turns right, then left at the junction. This can cause an avoiding swerve to turn into a slide.


I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of these was the initial cause, then with the fog, pile ups ensued.

[hercules]

every morning I see people cutting in and rushing plus going through a pubs layby entrance to dodge some traffic lights and its often repeat offenders and I think ffs get up a few mins earlier and is your car/life/somebody elses life worth it cos your an arse and cant allow more time to commute or just be a few mins late

[aaronjb]

The standards of driving in this country are absolutely shocking - it's not about (inappropriate) speed, fog or anything else, it's the total lack of awareness of:

a) Everything around you
b) The rules of the road that keep us all safe because we all agree to the same principles (and I'd go so far as to ignore a little speeding there, unless you're doing a ton forty while everyone else is doing 60!)
c) The fact that you are piloting a 1500Kg+ steel killing machine, not a big fluffy ball of dough that will save you and everyone around you in the event you fsck up.


Driving home from Hatfield last night at about 11pm the general lack of awareness of all of the above was absolutely appalling, from the Mercedes who decided to crawl past me in lane 2 as I was approaching a slower car in lane 1 and then, as he drew past me and I started to pull out, brake test a 2.2tonne pickup (twice), to the Mercedes in lane 4 of 5 doing 65mph braking randomly without another car in sight for a good couple of miles (literally, just me and him in sight!), to the Fiat with the satnav stuck to the screen directly in front of her face, to the Citroen Saxo who was so close behind me in the single lane 50-limit roadworks on the M3 that I could only see the roof and aerial of the car.. and that's on a journey with virtually empty roads, it only gets worse with more cars.

[BazaJT]

Totally agree about appalling driving standards.Yes people lead busy lives but to then risk theirs[and possibly others]is unforgiveable.Do you know in some ways I blame also modern cars,they now have so many safety systems built in-seat belts,airbags,abs,tc etc.-that a lot of people seem to think they are invulnerable and should by some mischance things should go  belly up then the car will save them and as thet now pass some pedestrian safety test or other such tests it will also save the poor unfortunates they inevitably involve in their accident.Again no excuse for the state of driving standards.

[TheBoy]

Is it that hard to get up 10 mins earlier to avoid having to be a idiot every morning?

[hercules]

Is it that hard to get up 10 mins earlier to avoid having to be a idiot every morning?

my point exactly but even if I was late it wouldn't make me rush or do owt daft cos once your late your late but its the same people everyday I see doing same stupid stuff,theres a lad on a bike and most mornings I see him weaving in and out and one day some other retard is gonna do the same and take him off.is it worth it for the sake of 5 mins earlier on the alarm

[Nick W]

Is it that hard to get up 10 mins earlier to avoid having to be a idiot every morning?

Most of them shouldn't be allowed in civilised society no matter what time they get up.

[The Sheriff]

I take my lad to school every morning and what he said just about sums it up. "Dad, I never want to learn to drive".

[Broomies Mate]

I take my lad to school every morning and what he said just about sums it up. "Dad, I never want to learn to drive a Daewoo".

Good lad!