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[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Its a 21st century Vauxhall. Run and dont stop until you see a Toyota for sale. 

Says the man who drives a..........

Well yes, mine is just about a 21st century Vauxhall, bit it was designed well before that. In fact  the chassis / suspension design can probably be traced back to the 1970,s. 

[STEMO]

Its a 21st century Vauxhall. Run and dont stop until you see a Toyota for sale. 

Says the man who drives a..........

Well yes, mine is just about a 21st century Vauxhall, bit it was designed well before that. In fact  the chassis / suspension design can probably be traced back to the 1970,s. 

Well..my 21st century Vauxhall has never missed a beat in the four years I have had it. It behaves impeccably and does whatever I ask of it. No hefty repair bills either.

[STEMO]

Tomorrow.........BANG!!!,......wtf didn't I keep my mouth shut? 

[Doctor Gollum]

I have to say, after a god awful experience with a 1.9 cdti 150 Vectra C I was quite impressed with the later 1.8 petrol.

The only thing that let it down was the lack of a sixth gear. But otherwise faultless. 

[TheBoy]

If its a shitbox to use as a van, and a great "van" for tip runs, the Zaffy A seems indestructible....    ....and by god I've tried. It has an ultra annoying habit of just always working.

The Zaf B is marginally more roomy inside, but having never owned one, can't comment on reliability.  Other than the well documented busting into flames of the non Elite variant due to the heater fan resistors.

The Zaf-A DTi has the well hated VP44 fuel pump that was all the rage in the mid 1990s, with its well known issues which effectively write the car off.


The DTi is also woefully slow, though I'm fairly convinced mine is knackered, and only giving me about 2 bhp.  It will touch a ton, but getting there takes some effort.  Its also a bastid to start when cold, but I think its down to 1 working glow plug.  I think its the shittiest car I've ever owned....
....but I've kept it for over 7 years, its one of the very few that has never left me stranded, and because it is so glacially slow its a hoot to drive because you daren't slow down


Its never a car you would desire, but can't knock its versatility.


I kinda agree with the dodgy Derby builder - if its a short term requirement, get the cheapest you can that runs and has a long MOT.

[Viral_Jim]

Cheers TB, I've started the process of looking for one, but given the used car market ATM, even absolute sh!tters seem to be commanding more than a grand, anything less than that seems to be buying trouble (noisy gearbox or similar).

Then again, if things weren't totally mental, I wouldn't be looking to get rid of the BM for only about £1000 less than I paid for it last year (18000 miles ago).

I can see a place in my long term fleet for something like a zaffy. As you say, not at all desirable,  but excellent for putting all the things in you wouldn't want in a nice car. Garden waste, plasterboard, children, that kind of thing.

[Varche]

And humans of course

[TheBoy]

Cheers TB, I've started the process of looking for one, but given the used car market ATM, even absolute sh!tters seem to be commanding more than a grand, anything less than that seems to be buying trouble (noisy gearbox or similar).

Then again, if things weren't totally mental, I wouldn't be looking to get rid of the BM for only about £1000 less than I paid for it last year (18000 miles ago).

I can see a place in my long term fleet for something like a zaffy. As you say, not at all desirable,  but excellent for putting all the things in you wouldn't want in a nice car. Garden waste, plasterboard, children, that kind of thing.

Now its Mrs TB's daily, I keep toying of being shot of it, and getting something a bit nicer for her 80 mile commute...

...but would really miss the flexibility of the Battlebus.

[Doctor Gollum]

She's a very lucky woman. 

[TheBoy]

She's a very lucky woman. 

Indeed she is

[Sir Tigger KC]

She's a very lucky woman. 

Indeed she is

I bet she doesn't realise how lucky she is?   

[Doctor Gollum]

She's a very lucky woman. 

Indeed she is

I bet she doesn't realise how lucky she is?   

I am sure TB reminds her at every opportunity 

[TheBoy]

She's a very lucky woman. 

Indeed she is

I bet she doesn't realise how lucky she is?   

I am sure TB reminds her at every opportunity 

I reminded her just an hour or 2 ago.

[dave the builder]

Surly fitting a magic tree air freshener  to the Zafira would be enough of an "upgrade" to keep Mrs TB happy 

just remember to remove it from the windscreen at MOT time 

[TheBoy]

Surly fitting a magic tree air freshener  to the Zafira would be enough of an "upgrade" to keep Mrs TB happy 

just remember to remove it from the windscreen at MOT time 

I think she'd be happier with a couple more working glow plugs....