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[raywilb]

 just had to pay a £100 speeding fine & got 3points on my license, not bothered about the money but the points are the first ever, driving since 1964 so got away with lots but still more narked about the points.  stupid sat nav was displaying a 40mph zone & i was clocked at 38 in a 30mph zone.   

[Sir Tigger KC]

Never mind Ray, you only have to wait for 3 years till you get your clean licence back. 

Unless you get nicked again of course! 

[Mister Rog]

Ah well, join the club
I've been done a few times. Did one "awareness course" which wasn't as bad as I was expecting and I did learn stuff.
My biggest p***off was 34 in a 30 by a mobile camera
My most deserved was 107 on the M4 on my way to see my dying dad. No ban, but 6 points and a fine.

[Doctor Gollum]

Speed or don't speed, but don't blame the satnav for not paying attention to the road markings and signage.

No sympathy here. But you've learnt two things:

Your satnav cannot/should not be relied upon.

£100 and three points is pretty light for a 'stupid tax'.

[Mister Rog]

Speed or don't speed, but don't blame the satnav for not paying attention to the road markings and signage.

No sympathy here. But you've learnt two things:

Your satnav cannot/should not be relied upon.

£100 and three points is pretty light for a 'stupid tax'.

Never, even assuming that it is updated frequently.

[Doctor Gollum]

Speed or don't speed, but don't blame the satnav for not paying attention to the road markings and signage.

No sympathy here. But you've learnt two things:

Your satnav cannot/should not be relied upon.

£100 and three points is pretty light for a 'stupid tax'.

Never, even assuming that it is updated frequently.

And even then no substitute for looking out of the windscreen.

[johnnydog]

38 in a 30 speed limit would surely qualify for a speed awareness course, especially being your first speeding offence? You are narked about getting points, so I'm surprised you didn't take up the offer of one, or were you not offered one...?

[Shackeng]

just had to pay a £100 speeding fine & got 3points on my license, not bothered about the money but the points are the first ever, driving since 1964 so got away with lots but still more narked about the points.  stupid sat nav was displaying a 40mph zone & i was clocked at 38 in a 30mph zone.   

Exactly as I was caught a few years ago. Zone limits seem to change a lot these days, and the new car I have just bought has an optional package which reads the speed signs, whereas the base model relies on satnav info, and since that probably doesn’t get updated often, if at all, it becomes a nice money earner.

[Andy B]

Speed or don't speed, but don't blame the satnav for not paying attention to the road markings and signage.

No sympathy here. But you've learnt two things:

Your satnav cannot/should not be relied upon.

£100 and three points is pretty light for a 'stupid tax'.

Mr Perfect ...... 

[Varche]

In Spain you get speeding and other driving offences but the authority isn’t obliged to contact you eg letter in the post.  I did have one for turning into a bus lane too early to access underground parking. That was 100 euros with 50% duscount early payment. Went straight to the bank handling that business and the teller scanned it and said 100 mate. What about the discount ? Nothing shown. Robbing barsteward was going to pocket the 50. So instead we drove to the “ DVLA” and had a grand day out with the 50 euros saved….

They do however post it on a website ( access to which is quite difficult - you have to get a digital certificate, plus it is down a corridor marked beware of the tiger). You can build up a lot and the first you know is if you are randomly stopped and they check. Over time the penalties increase due to non payment…………..

[Doctor Gollum]

Speed or don't speed, but don't blame the satnav for not paying attention to the road markings and signage.

No sympathy here. But you've learnt two things:

Your satnav cannot/should not be relied upon.

£100 and three points is pretty light for a 'stupid tax'.

Mr Perfect ...... 

Didn't say I was and nor do I claim to be. I've had my fair share of points, and even been to court for some of them.

But don't admit to not paying attention to what is going on around you then start bleating about the consequences.

Blaming the satnav is akin to blaming the dog because you couldn't be bothered to do your homework.

[YZ250]

just had to pay a £100 speeding fine & got 3points on my license, not bothered about the money but the points are the first ever, driving since 1964 so got away with lots but still more narked about the points.  stupid sat nav was displaying a 40mph zone & i was clocked at 38 in a 30mph zone.

I know it’s easy to say but don’t let the annoyance of the points eat away at you Ray. It’s not a big deal compared to some things life throws at us so just try to forget it.
I used to dream about buying a bazooka and blowing every camera van I came across sky high, complete with its occupant. It’s not a normal way of thinking and it’s not healthy but thankfully I’m over it now. 

[Doctor Gollum]

38 in a 30 speed limit would surely qualify for a speed awareness course, especially being your first speeding offence? You are narked about getting points, so I'm surprised you didn't take up the offer of one, or were you not offered one...?

https://www.askthe.police.uk/faq/?id=f4dfaac6-4575-ec11-8943-0022480702b6

[Doctor Gollum]

just had to pay a £100 speeding fine & got 3points on my license, not bothered about the money but the points are the first ever, driving since 1964 so got away with lots but still more narked about the points.  stupid sat nav was displaying a 40mph zone & i was clocked at 38 in a 30mph zone.

I know it’s easy to say but don’t let the annoyance of the points eat away at you Ray. It’s not a big deal compared to some things life throws at us so just try to forget it.
I used to dream about buying a bazooka and blowing every camera van I came across sky high, complete with its occupant. It’s not a normal way of thinking and it’s not healthy but thankfully I’m over it now. 

Reformed even

[YZ250]

just had to pay a £100 speeding fine & got 3points on my license, not bothered about the money but the points are the first ever, driving since 1964 so got away with lots but still more narked about the points.  stupid sat nav was displaying a 40mph zone & i was clocked at 38 in a 30mph zone.

I know it’s easy to say but don’t let the annoyance of the points eat away at you Ray. It’s not a big deal compared to some things life throws at us so just try to forget it.
I used to dream about buying a bazooka and blowing every camera van I came across sky high, complete with its occupant. It’s not a normal way of thinking and it’s not healthy but thankfully I’m over it now. 

Reformed even

Exactly.   

[johnnydog]

38 in a 30 speed limit would surely qualify for a speed awareness course, especially being your first speeding offence? You are narked about getting points, so I'm surprised you didn't take up the offer of one, or were you not offered one...?

https://www.askthe.police.uk/faq/?id=f4dfaac6-4575-ec11-8943-0022480702b6

Yes I know that ....it's the basic info re eligibility for a  speed awareness course. Ray mentioned that he was peeved about the points....
Maybe there was some of the criteria that wasn't met that resulted in a course not being offered and the 3 points and the fine. But a basic speeding offence at that quoted speed with no other offences on a first offence and providing the offender accepts the offer, then a speed awareness course ought to be offered. Force policy does vary from region to region but they are all pretty standard at 38mph. Most forces allow infringements of 10% plus 2 mph, which I understand was from the days when speedos weren't accurate as today to allow a percentage for speedo inaccuracy.

[Doctor Gollum]

I put the link up to indicate the various general criteria. The 10% margin was a gesture of leniency that has quietly been dropped over recent years.

I've had points for 36/30 from a camera van and a couple of courses for 45-6/40 from gatsos. But each force pretty much does what they want (in line with the above guidance) with some now trying to use unmarked camera vans and baiting drivers with unmarked cars.

[TheBoy]

blaming the dog because you couldn't be bothered to do your homework.

Oi! Some of us still use that one.  Even though I dont have a dog...

[TheBoy]

I used to dream about buying a bazooka and blowing every camera van I came across sky high, complete with its occupant. It’s not a normal way of thinking and it’s not healthy but thankfully I’m over it now. 

Hmmm, maybe I'm not as reformed as I thought I was....

I think its a perfectly healthy viewpoint.

[countrywoman]

Most speedos over read by 10% now, that is why you get stuck behind the 36mph in a 40 (or 60) numptys. I always check my speedo against the sat nav and the nice signs that show how fast you are going (so far tally up). 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore, which is a shame as that was quite handy for long stretches where there are average speed cameras. 

Going past Newport on the M4 for example which is a 50mph zone. 

[Andy B]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore,  ....

Use WAZE then 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore,  ....

Use WAZE then 

Ah yes, I'll give it a try. Thanks! 

[Doctor Gollum]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore, which is a shame as that was quite handy for long stretches where there are average speed cameras. 

Going past Newport on the M4 for example which is a 50mph zone. 

That's what cruise control is there for the car already tells you how fast you're going. The signs tell you how fast they want you to go.

Posted limit plus 10% on the speedo is usually enough to keep out of trouble and make progress.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore, which is a shame as that was quite handy for long stretches where there are average speed cameras. 

Going past Newport on the M4 for example which is a 50mph zone. 

That's what cruise control is there for the car already tells you how fast you're going. The signs tell you how fast they want you to go.

Posted limit plus 10% on the speedo is usually enough to keep out of trouble and make progress.

I've always set my cruise control from Google maps then you make better progress and also keep pace with the trucks travelling on their calibrated speedos. 

Unless they're Irish heading for Holyhead or Fishguard and they don't give a flying opps! 

[STEMO]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore, which is a shame as that was quite handy for long stretches where there are average speed cameras. 

Going past Newport on the M4 for example which is a 50mph zone. 

I used google maps yesterday and pretty sure the speed limit was still displayed. Of course, I can't be 100%, so I'll check next time I use it.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore, which is a shame as that was quite handy for long stretches where there are average speed cameras. 

Going past Newport on the M4 for example which is a 50mph zone. 

I used google maps yesterday and pretty sure the speed limit was still displayed. Of course, I can't be 100%, so I'll check next time I use it.

They show the speed limit, but not the speed you're travelling at, which they used to do.

[STEMO]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore, which is a shame as that was quite handy for long stretches where there are average speed cameras. 

Going past Newport on the M4 for example which is a 50mph zone. 

I used google maps yesterday and pretty sure the speed limit was still displayed. Of course, I can't be 100%, so I'll check next time I use it.

They show the speed limit, but not the speed you're travelling at, which they used to do.

Ah....sorry.....never even realised that was an option.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

No speed limits on the motorway before Barbara Castle slapped a 70 MPH limit on the late sixties. The ginger bint couldn't even drive.

Before this 150 MPH on the M1 was perfectly legal in your E-Type.

[Raeturbo]

Yes I think it was the E type that brought in the speed limits. That  beautiful mk1 3.8 triple SU, icon can never be denounced though for me👍 really wish I could have afforded one back then but to be fair I doubt if would be here now if I could😱

[TheBoy]

That's what cruise control is there for

Or better still, speed limiters, which seem to be fitted to most slightly larger cars now.

[BazaJT]

I'd heard that it was the speed of the AC Cobra that caused all the outrage back then.Of course the 70mph limit was only introduced as a temporary measure so expect it to be lifted any time soon

[Andy B]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore, which is a shame as that was quite handy for long stretches where there are average speed cameras. 

Going past Newport on the M4 for example which is a 50mph zone. 

I used google maps yesterday and pretty sure the speed limit was still displayed. Of course, I can't be 100%, so I'll check next time I use it.

I used Google maps last night & can conform that your speed is also shown alongside the limit .... and it goes red if you're over the limit - apparently!

[Andy B]

That's what cruise control is there for

Or better still, speed limiters, which seem to be fitted to most slightly larger cars now.

I don't like the limiter .... much prefer to use cruise

[YZ250]

That's what cruise control is there for

Or better still, speed limiters, which seem to be fitted to most slightly larger cars now.

I don't like the limiter .... much prefer to use cruise

I prefer cruise control if I can see far enough ahead that it’s worthwhile but use the limiter if I’m having to constantly manoeuvre around parked vehicles, so it completely depends on the circumstances. Others will have their own preferences.    So far, I’ve mowed down twelve pedestrians while on cruise control in a built up area but haven’t been done for speeding lately, so every cloud and all that.    Only kidding

[Andy B]

.... So far, I’ve mowed down twelve pedestrians while on cruise control in a built up area but haven’t been done for speeding lately, so every cloud and all that.    Only kidding

[Sir Tigger KC]

Google maps don't show your speed anymore, which is a shame as that was quite handy for long stretches where there are average speed cameras. 

Going past Newport on the M4 for example which is a 50mph zone. 

I used google maps yesterday and pretty sure the speed limit was still displayed. Of course, I can't be 100%, so I'll check next time I use it.

I used Google maps last night & can conform that your speed is also shown alongside the limit .... and it goes red if you're over the limit - apparently!

Thanks Andy, I'll check my settings. 

Might give Waze a go as well next time I do a long trip. 

[Raeturbo]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

[STEMO]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

Great story, Rae 
God, I miss the seventies, everything was.....well......great!
The sixties, I was a bit too young (born in 53). The eighties were ok, but since I can't remember much from them, they were obviously not that exciting. I just love the derring do, fu q attitude of the seventies.

[Andy B]

....
Might give Waze a go as well next time I do a long trip. 

WAZE is pretty good at giving alternative routes to avoid traffic

[Rangie]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

Great story, Rae 
God, I miss the seventies, everything was.....well......great!
The sixties, I was a bit too young (born in 53). The eighties were ok, but since I can't remember much from them, they were obviously not that exciting. I just love the derring do, fu q attitude of the seventies.

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Best music but virtually best everything in the seventies 👍
Not forgetting all the wonderful sexual experiences 😁
 I'm in a bar in Gran Canaria at present SWMBO is shopping..

[STEMO]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

Great story, Rae 
God, I miss the seventies, everything was.....well......great!
The sixties, I was a bit too young (born in 53). The eighties were ok, but since I can't remember much from them, they were obviously not that exciting. I just love the derring do, fu q attitude of the seventies.

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Best music but virtually best everything in the seventies 👍
Not forgetting all the wonderful sexual experiences 😁
 I'm in a bar in Gran Canaria at present SWMBO is shopping..

You're living the dream, Mick. Take a moment once in a while to reflect on just how fortunate you are, and make the most of it mate 

[Rangie]

Do you know I've just said the same to an old friend, I am one lucky old fella..😉

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

185 MPH on the M1 in 1964, and totally legal.

Boys own annual stuff. The stuff of 'daring do' when men were men are women were glad of it.

[STEMO]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

185 MPH on the M1 in 1964, and totally legal.

Boys own annual stuff. The stuff of 'daring do' when men were men are women were glad of it.

Is it daring do or derring-do?
The expression logically should be “feats of daring-do” because that's just what it means: deeds of extreme daring. But through a chain of misunderstandings explained in the Oxford English Dictionary, the standard form evolved with the unusual spelling “derring-do,” and “daring-do” is an error. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

185 MPH on the M1 in 1964, and totally legal.

Boys own annual stuff. The stuff of 'daring do' when men were men are women were glad of it.

And not a pronoun in sight! 

[countrywoman]

that should have been when men were men and sheep were nervous ---------

[STEMO]

that should have been when men were men and sheep were nervous ---------

Only in Rae country, and nothing has changed.

[dave the builder]

that should have been when men were men and sheep were nervous ---------

Only in Rae country, and nothing has changed.

Dolly's not nervous , she's got Rae well and truly under the trotter 

[raywilb]

38 in a 30 speed limit would surely qualify for a speed awareness course, especially being your first speeding offence? You are narked about getting points, so I'm surprised you didn't take up the offer of one, or were you not offered one...?

https://www.askthe.police.uk/faq/?id=f4dfaac6-4575-ec11-8943-0022480702b6

Yes I know that ....it's the basic info re eligibility for a  speed awareness course. Ray mentioned that he was peeved about the points....
Maybe there was some of the criteria that wasn't met that resulted in a course not being offered and the 3 points and the fine. But a basic speeding offence at that quoted speed with no other offences on a first offence and providing the offender accepts the offer, then a speed awareness course ought to be offered. Force policy does vary from region to region but they are all pretty standard at 38mph. Most forces allow infringements of 10% plus 2 mph, which I understand was from the days when speedos weren't accurate as today to allow a percentage for speedo inaccuracy.
quote :    i did ask if it was possible to do a speed awareness course. i got a letter back today explaining why. this was within the three years since i had one (only by 6wks) so no excuses.    Paid up __

[STEMO]

38 in a 30 speed limit would surely qualify for a speed awareness course, especially being your first speeding offence? You are narked about getting points, so I'm surprised you didn't take up the offer of one, or were you not offered one...?

https://www.askthe.police.uk/faq/?id=f4dfaac6-4575-ec11-8943-0022480702b6

Yes I know that ....it's the basic info re eligibility for a  speed awareness course. Ray mentioned that he was peeved about the points....
Maybe there was some of the criteria that wasn't met that resulted in a course not being offered and the 3 points and the fine. But a basic speeding offence at that quoted speed with no other offences on a first offence and providing the offender accepts the offer, then a speed awareness course ought to be offered. Force policy does vary from region to region but they are all pretty standard at 38mph. Most forces allow infringements of 10% plus 2 mph, which I understand was from the days when speedos weren't accurate as today to allow a percentage for speedo inaccuracy.
quote :    i did ask if it was possible to do a speed awareness course. i got a letter back today explaining why. this was within the three years since i had one (only by 6wks) so no excuses.    Paid up __

Pity you never included this information in your first post.
So.....you can't do a speed awareness course because you've done one within the last three years. And the reason you haven't got any points is not because you haven't transgressed before, but because you've already used your get out of jail card.
Sheesh.....whatever happened to the English language.

[STEMO]

Pity you never included this information in your first post.
So.....you can't do a speed awareness course because you've done one within the last three years. And the reason you haven't got any points is not because you haven't transgressed before, but because you've already used your get out of jail card.
Sheesh.....whatever happened to the English language?






Repeated because the quoting function appears to have been well and truly butchered in the previous post.

[YZ250]

Pity you never included this information in your first post.
So.....you can't do a speed awareness course because you've done one within the last three years. And the reason you haven't got any points is not because you haven't transgressed before, but because you've already used your get out of jail card.
Sheesh.....whatever happened to the English language?

 
I must admit I read it as a first offence.

[johnnydog]

I have to admit having done an online speed awareness course recently (59mph on the M62 in a 50). Got zapped by a fixed camera, but in the preceeding stretch the variable speed limit had changed between 50, 40, then 60 , so in a moment of inattentativeness (is that a word?)......not an excuse I know, but there we go....
I did learn that if you attend a course for a particular speed offence (such as for a 50mph offence), and within the 3 years get nobbled by a camera for another speeding offence but in a different speed category (such as a 60mph), then you are eligible to attend another course. If you did two in a 50mph, then no, but if one was 40 and the other in say a 60, then you are eligible for a second course, even within the 3 years.
That came out on the course, so I presume it is correct, although I won't be risking it just in case it's not.....

[Sir Tigger KC]

Shame you don't have to go to the classroom anymore as I quite enjoyed my Speed Awareness Course.

There was an amusing know it all dickhead who kept chuntering away about the injustice of it all, some interesting characters to chat to over coffee, and an attractive blonde with nice tits to distract me. 

Although I could have done without it of course, it was a nice day out! 

[redelitev6]

Shame you don't have to go to the classroom anymore as I quite enjoyed my Speed Awareness Course.

There was an amusing know it all dickhead who kept chuntering away about the injustice of it all, some interesting characters to chat to over coffee, and an attractive blonde with nice tits to distract me. 

Although I could have done without it of course, it was a nice day out! 

The guy on my course kept saying how he could speed because his van had "Turbo Brakes" 

[Raeturbo]

Bah, Steve, Dai, you know me too well🤣😱🤣🐑🐑🐑🍆💦💦❤️‍🔥

[raywilb]

Pity you never included this information in your first post.
So.....you can't do a speed awareness course because you've done one within the last three years. And the reason you haven't got any points is not because you haven't transgressed before, but because you've already used your get out of jail card.
Sheesh.....whatever happened to the English language? 
  i never knew about the 3year thing & even if I did it seemed longer than the 3 yrs , Will that do you






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[TheBoy]

and an attractive blonde with nice tits to distract me. 

On my course, it was all old bints, or thick bimbos I wouldn't even go near with yours.

I have no good things to say about mine, other than it saved 3 points, which would have been harsh for such a tiny transgression of the rules....

[Raeturbo]

I just think of all the times I’ve got away with crazy stuff when I get caught. Seems fair then🤣🤣

[Mister Rog]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

Not in the same speed league, but very early 70s I had an old Austin Westminster. 3 Litre, straight 6. Tank of a thing (think B&W TV detective programmes).
First time I drove over 100mph M1. No reason for the journey, just a "drive". 110MPH. I remember it well. A bit terrifying.

 

[Rangie]

My first time over 100MPH was in a 3.4 Jaguar 112MPH indicated it was a gorgeous car my father owned black with red leather
UYY 765.

[countrywoman]

First for me was on the drag strip with my Dodge Challenger, 106 at the 1/4. My proper drag Austin did 120.
 Got stopped by a Triumph 2000 old bill car for "speeding" but got away with it as there VASCAR was faulty!!

[Sir Tigger KC]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

Not in the same speed league, but very early 70s I had an old Austin Westminster. 3 Litre, straight 6. Tank of a thing (think B&W TV detective programmes).
First time I drove over 100mph M1. No reason for the journey, just a "drive". 110MPH. I remember it well. A bit terrifying.

I'd imagine the suspension was designed for comfort rather than speed! 

[Mister Rog]

Interesting.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/day-jack-sears-hit-185mph-m1-motorway

Not in the same speed league, but very early 70s I had an old Austin Westminster. 3 Litre, straight 6. Tank of a thing (think B&W TV detective programmes).
First time I drove over 100mph M1. No reason for the journey, just a "drive". 110MPH. I remember it well. A bit terrifying.

I'd imagine the suspension was designed for comfort rather than speed! 

It was like driving an armchair

[78bex]

My Dad used to say:" Only idiots get done for speeding". Thanks Pop ; luv your idiot son 

[Raeturbo]

Managed to squeeze a ton out of my Ford zodiac mk3 at the third attempt 🤣🤣 2.6 straight six

[Rangie]

Managed to squeeze a ton out of my Ford zodiac mk3 at the third attempt 🤣🤣 2.6 straight six

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They were a beautiful looking car , the Zodiac being the best of the range , nice fintails & lots of chrome.👍

[Raeturbo]

Yes I really loved mine and young owner at only 18.   927 CWN

[ronnyd]

Yes I really loved mine and young owner at only 18.   927 CWN

My eldest got stopped in my 2.8 Mk2 Granada when he was in his teens. Copper said to him, " what's a young bloke like you doing driving a car like that".
All was above board so he told him to bugger off. 

[Raeturbo]

I was very lucky to have owned mk2 2.4  and mk2 3.4 Jags in my teens too although they were bangers

[Rangie]

Had a MK2 Zephyr and after that a couple of 3.0 Granadas then a 2.8 Granada Ghia liked all of them, then moved on to 4x4s for towing the caravan.

[Andy B]

Managed to squeeze a ton out of my Ford zodiac mk3 at the third attempt 🤣🤣 2.6 straight six

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They were a beautiful looking car , the Zodiac being the best of the range , nice fintails & lots of chrome.👍

Many many moons ago, early 80's, I saw a MKIII Zephyr/Zodiac in Southampton with a 'for sale' sign in the window for £150 ..... I always wish I bought it