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[Sir Tigger KC]

I might move to Brazil where they run cars on ethanol made from sugar cane and I won't have to worry about heating the house in wintertime. 

The girls are very sexy as well! 

[ronnyd]

Makes you wonder if it's worth keeping an eye out for a decent old diesel that can run on veggie oil. 

Something like this for example. 

Not much leg room behind the passenger seat there,. Would be ok for a double amputee i suppose. 

[dave the builder]

Makes you wonder if it's worth keeping an eye out for a decent old diesel that can run on veggie oil. 

Something like this for example. 

Not much leg room behind the passenger seat there,. Would be ok for a double amputee i suppose. 

people rarely sit in the cheap seats in cars
most cars transport just the driver 
because public transport is ...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I might move to Brazil where they run cars on ethanol made from sugar cane and I won't have to worry about heating the house in wintertime. 

The girls are very sexy as well! 

Be wary of the girls who can pull a length through their legs and tie it off.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Synthetic petrol is already a thing. No fossils involved, and iirc emissions are negligible. Of course its expensive at the moment, but mass production and usage could soon slash the price.
It isnt wanted though because it doesnt fit the global(ist) political agenda, and the climate change zealots have created a whole new sector of the economy that allows people to make huge fortunes out of the biggest con trick since religion was thought of.
As for veggie oil. Retail price is irrelevant. Restaurants will happily give it to you to get rid of it, then you just need to filter it and tip it into your Merc w201 190D. At least that was the situation when I gave up running on vegoil four years ago.
Preferrably not the w202 D in the link though, as the engine is different enough to require mods to run on it.
The one issue is that the price of w201 190D,s went through the roof just after I got rid of mine - obviously. 

[Doctor Gollum]

As long as my Vectra lasts me out, i don't give a shit. I set a very low bar. 

Seems the most likely scenario.

If he can keep it out of car parks...

[mattbearman]

This only applies to new cars, there’ll still be plenty of ICE cars on the road long after 2035. I’ve been a petrol head all my life, but I say bring it on - times are changing, zero emissions cars of some form are the future. I’ll still have my Omega, MR2 and motorbikes for fun (and no doubt some other ICE vehicles by then), but planning on an electric for my next daily

My biggest concern would be fuel prices getting even crazier than they already are as demand drops, but I’m optimistic synthetic fuels will be cheaper than real fuel by then

[ronnyd]

As long as my Vectra lasts me out, i don't give a shit. I set a very low bar. 

Seems the most likely scenario.

If he can keep it out of car parks...

: 

[Doctor Gollum]

This only applies to new cars, there’ll still be plenty of ICE cars on the road long after 2035. I’ve been a petrol head all my life, but I say bring it on - times are changing, zero emissions cars of some form are the future. I’ll still have my Omega, MR2 and motorbikes for fun (and no doubt some other ICE vehicles by then), but planning on an electric for my next daily

My biggest concern would be fuel prices getting even crazier than they already are as demand drops, but I’m optimistic synthetic fuels will be cheaper than real fuel by then

Zero emissions is an unattainable pipe dream.

Just because YOU can't see the pollution as you drive your EV does not mean that someone else can't.

And, in case it's news to those who believe the peddled BS, The planet only has one atmosphere. So the less pollution we make, the more someone else will, (if not more because they will then have to ship all the things they produce around the globe to get here... And you can be assured that won't be zero emissions either).

And if you want to say   "Ah yes, what about renewable?" Trees are renewable. They get planted, chopped down, processed and burnt to produce electricity.

What we actually need is to be more efficient in our usage. Producing new cars out of expensive, rare materials is the exact opposite of efficient.

Keeping what you have and running it for as long as possible and replacing it with something used should you need to. And produce spares from recycled materials rather than new.

That's how you be efficient and save the planet.

[Raeturbo]

^ yes and it’s so blatantly obvious but that’s not going to fill corrupt bastards pockets so that’s fkd^

[dave the builder]

This only applies to new cars, there’ll still be plenty of ICE cars on the road long after 2035. I’ve been a petrol head all my life, but I say bring it on - times are changing, zero emissions cars of some form are the future. I’ll still have my Omega, MR2 and motorbikes for fun (and no doubt some other ICE vehicles by then), but planning on an electric for my next daily

My biggest concern would be fuel prices getting even crazier than they already are as demand drops, but I’m optimistic synthetic fuels will be cheaper than real fuel by then

Zero emissions is an unattainable pipe dream.

Just because YOU can't see the pollution as you drive your EV does not mean that someone else can't.

And, in case it's news to those who believe the peddled BS, The planet only has one atmosphere. So the less pollution we make, the more someone else will, (if not more because they will then have to ship all the things they produce around the globe to get here... And you can be assured that won't be zero emissions either).

And if you want to say   "Ah yes, what about renewable?" Trees are renewable. They get planted, chopped down, processed and burnt to produce electricity.

What we actually need is to be more efficient in our usage. Producing new cars out of expensive, rare materials is the exact opposite of efficient.

Keeping what you have and running it for as long as possible and replacing it with something used should you need to. And produce spares from recycled materials rather than new.

That's how you be efficient and save the planet.

Oh FFS   
I'm going to have to agree  with something DG posted 

[countrywoman]

Well I am doing my bit recycling my 1951 Austin with Omega running gear

[Doctor Gollum]

^ yes and it’s so blatantly obvious but that’s not going to fill corrupt bastards pockets so that’s fkd^

It’s not my fault that they have zero imagination 

[Rangie]

I have said right from the start that it's an unobtainable pipe dream,and simply a way to cash in on the motorists again common sense tells me that it won't work, this planet is fc uked and is past the point of no return so enjoy your big engines be they petrol or diesel, forget all the nonsense spouted because nothing & nobody lasts forever.

[mattbearman]

Zero emissions is an unattainable pipe dream.

Just because YOU can't see the pollution as you drive your EV does not mean that someone else can't.

And, in case it's news to those who believe the peddled BS, The planet only has one atmosphere. So the less pollution we make, the more someone else will, (if not more because they will then have to ship all the things they produce around the globe to get here... And you can be assured that won't be zero emissions either).

In this context zero emissions refers only to exhaust emissions. It is of course true there will still be environmental impact from EV manufacturing, just like there is in ICE vehicle manufacturing. And EVs actually generate more CO2 in manufacturing than ICE vehicles do. BUT when the entire vehicle lifespan is studied, EVs come out on top:

Vehicle ‘lifecycle analyses’ – taking account of all the emissions from the mining of ores, the manufacture of vehicles and batteries, and the in-use energy consumption of petrol, diesel or electricity – show large overall CO2 savings for EVs compared to conventional vehicles.

source: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/choosing/are-electric-cars-really-better-for-the-environment

Keeping what you have and running it for as long as possible and replacing it with something used should you need to. And produce spares from recycled materials rather than new.

That's how you be efficient and save the planet.

This I 100% agree with, it's Reduce, Reuse, Recycle - in that order

Also, electric cars are fun, they're like giant versions of the radio controlled cars I played with as a kid, right down to the noise they make