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[chrisgixer]

Very nice car that. Huge boot. Impressive load options. Back seats up, there's a cover blind that opens vertically with the auto tail gate. But, unhook the load cover blind so it retracts, reveals two levers on the sides. Pull these and both rear seats drop flat, actuated from the tail gate. No need to walk round and open the passenger doors to drop the seats like omega, oh no. Although there are additional buttons there if needed.
 Shopping bag hooks pop out the sidea of the load area too. Plus, with seats folded flat, there's a bulk head that is removable from behind the rear seats, that locks in place into the same hooks, do the net can be hooked up to the roof to stop stuff hitting the driver in the back of the head. Simple, but clever.

Head unit plays video DVD. Has tmc. Nav drops audio over any audio source without muting. Its responsive and audio commands are VERY RESPONSIVE control dial by arm rest is perfectly positioned, and easy to use.

Loads of head room. Comfy seats, which is an improvement on any older Merc I ever sat in.


...oh, and it bips its horn like herby when the fob buttons are pressed. Lock bips once. Unlock bips three times.....   

....oh dear.


(It's quite endearing actually. Although not at 5am )

[tunnie]

MotherT's Merc has the same command system, it's very good. I like the parking sensor blips in the dash and roof too, when looking back. 

[chrisgixer]

Spare wheel well is enormous too. Good for gassing a petrol version.

Although Als diesel is quiet enough, when rolling.

[tunnie]

Spare wheel well is enormous too. Good for gassing a petrol version.

Although Als diesel is quiet enough, when rolling.

Should be even better on a 350 

[tunnie]

I'm quite taken with the CLS, good looking, used prices are very good.

CLS 320's go for good money, I've even been looking at their service plans 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

MotherT's Merc has the same command system, it's very good. I like the parking sensor blips in the dash and roof too, when looking back.

My CLS 500 came with COMAND and not COMMAND.

Mr Al's car is certainly impressive.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm quite taken with the CLS, good looking, used prices are very good.

CLS 320's go for good money, I've even been looking at their service plans 

The 5.0 V8 works out cheaper year for year than a Monaro, Mr Tunnie. If you can afford the petrol they are well worth a look. Check out the airmatic suspension though because the 'dumber' amongst us have already been caught out .

[tunnie]

I'm quite taken with the CLS, good looking, used prices are very good.

CLS 320's go for good money, I've even been looking at their service plans 

The 5.0 V8 works out cheaper year for year than a Monaro, Mr Tunnie. If you can afford the petrol they are well worth a look. Check out the airmatic suspension though because the 'dumber' amongst us have already been caught out .

Thanks for heads up, is that across the range of engines?

For me it would have to be a diesel with my miles, sad thing would also it could be the end of my DIY days really 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm quite taken with the CLS, good looking, used prices are very good.

CLS 320's go for good money, I've even been looking at their service plans 

The 5.0 V8 works out cheaper year for year than a Monaro, Mr Tunnie. If you can afford the petrol they are well worth a look. Check out the airmatic suspension though because the 'dumber' amongst us have already been caught out .

Thanks for heads up, is that across the range of engines?

For me it would have to be a diesel with my miles, sad thing would also it could be the end of my DIY days really 

I believe that airmatic was standard on the CLS 500 but an option on the CLS 320 'soot chucker'. When working as it should the suspension was fine, but in my opinion no better than a conventional set up. The CLS range certainly looks the part though and in V8 forum is seriously rapid. For reference, my March 2006 CLS 500 (with private plate and full SH) sold for just £6350.

[tunnie]

I'm quite taken with the CLS, good looking, used prices are very good.

CLS 320's go for good money, I've even been looking at their service plans 

The 5.0 V8 works out cheaper year for year than a Monaro, Mr Tunnie. If you can afford the petrol they are well worth a look. Check out the airmatic suspension though because the 'dumber' amongst us have already been caught out .

Thanks for heads up, is that across the range of engines?

For me it would have to be a diesel with my miles, sad thing would also it could be the end of my DIY days really 

I believe that airmatic was standard on the CLS 500 but an option on the CLS 320 'soot chucker'. When working as it should the suspension was fine, but in my opinion no better than a conventional set up. The CLS range certainly looks the part though and in V8 forum is seriously rapid. For reference, my March 2006 CLS 500 (with private plate and full SH) sold for just £6350.

Peanuts really, considering the car. Good to know on the suspension, go for normal.

How many miles on your CLS? I've been looking at ones for around ~£12k.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201310099194213/sort/default/usedcars/radius/1500/postcode/nn136er/page/2/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/model/cls/maximum-mileage/up_to_50000_miles/make/mercedes-benz/fuel-type/diesel?logcode=p

But the V8 for just £6k 

Could get that professionally gassed for say £2k?

HummmM!

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm quite taken with the CLS, good looking, used prices are very good.

CLS 320's go for good money, I've even been looking at their service plans 

The 5.0 V8 works out cheaper year for year than a Monaro, Mr Tunnie. If you can afford the petrol they are well worth a look. Check out the airmatic suspension though because the 'dumber' amongst us have already been caught out .

Thanks for heads up, is that across the range of engines?

For me it would have to be a diesel with my miles, sad thing would also it could be the end of my DIY days really 

I believe that airmatic was standard on the CLS 500 but an option on the CLS 320 'soot chucker'. When working as it should the suspension was fine, but in my opinion no better than a conventional set up. The CLS range certainly looks the part though and in V8 forum is seriously rapid. For reference, my March 2006 CLS 500 (with private plate and full SH) sold for just £6350.

Peanuts really, considering the car. Good to know on the suspension, go for normal.

How many miles on your CLS? I've been looking at ones for around ~£12k.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201310099194213/sort/default/usedcars/radius/1500/postcode/nn136er/page/2/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/model/cls/maximum-mileage/up_to_50000_miles/make/mercedes-benz/fuel-type/diesel?logcode=p

But the V8 for just £6k 

Could get that professionally gassed for say £2k?

HummmM!

Only 93,000 miles, so the engine was still a little tight.

I think that the COMAND system is also optional on the CLS320.....so best to check.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

LPG is certainly an option and much of the car is accessible to a 'DIY spanner man'

On a long run 26-27 MPG was possible because of the long gearing.......36 MPH/1000 RPM.

[tunnie]

LPG is certainly an option and much of the car is accessible to a 'DIY spanner man'

On a long run 26-27 MPG was possible because of the long gearing.......36 MPH/1000 RPM.

Goes to show how crap the Omega is on fuel really. Same MPG from a 5.0V8 compared to a 3.2 

[Andy B]

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I think that the COMAND system is also optional on the CLS320.....so best to check.

It seems that everything is an option on all all Mercs ...... I miss my memory seats 

[Kevin Wood]

A 3.2 should be doing considerably more than that on a long run.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

.....
I think that the COMAND system is also optional on the CLS320.....so best to check.

It seems that everything is an option on all all Mercs ...... I miss my memory seats 

Including the dipstick.

.......and although the seats were electric there was no memory function as standard on mine.

[Andy B]

.....
I think that the COMAND system is also optional on the CLS320.....so best to check.

It seems that everything is an option on all all Mercs ...... I miss my memory seats 

Including the dipstick.

.......and although the seats were electric there was no memory function as standard on mine.

Under the bonnet or behind the wheel?     

Mine does have both 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

.....
I think that the COMAND system is also optional on the CLS320.....so best to check.

It seems that everything is an option on all all Mercs ...... I miss my memory seats 

Including the dipstick.

.......and although the seats were electric there was no memory function as standard on mine.

Under the bonnet or behind the wheel?     

Mine does have both 

I hope that you COMAND system is working well, Andy.

[Andy B]

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I hope that you COMAND system is working well, Andy.

I just command her to tell me where we're going!     

[tigers_gonads]

A 3.2 should be doing considerably more than that on a long run.

Never had anymore then 26 mpg when I ran mine on petrol 
Makes me wonder about it tbh
Best i've ever seen on a lpg run is 24 

[Blaster Bates]

Does it have a fire extinguisher?

[zirk]

A 3.2 should be doing considerably more than that on a long run.

Never had anymore then 26 mpg when I ran mine on petrol 
Makes me wonder about it tbh
Best i've ever seen on a lpg run is 24 

3.2 LPG Auto Estate, 14 to 18 mpg in and out of London, best Ive done is a very boring journey to Leeds and back driving like Miss Daisy, managed to hit 31 mpg, but soon went down when I got bored with it all.

My 3.2 Manual Estate will do 25 mpg all day long around London and up to 35 mpg on a run with petrol in it, working out the £ for £ for each one and LPG and Petrol starts to get to a 'not much in it' syndrome.

Still tempted to convert the 3.2 Manual to LPG and try a 3.45 Diff in there. 

[05omegav6]

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I think that the COMAND system is also optional on the CLS320.....so best to check.

It seems that everything is an option on all all Mercs ...... I miss my memory seats 

Including the dipstick.

.......and although the seats were electric there was no memory function as standard on mine.

Under the bonnet or behind the wheel?     

Mine does have both 

Likewise

The 350 requires adblue, which the four pots don't... worth bearing in mind if you do alot of urban work...

[Rog]

A 3.2 should be doing considerably more than that on a long run.

Long run, modest speed, with a feather like right foot, I really struggle to get 31mpg 

[05omegav6]

Should add that most E classes now are diesel, so if you're looking to lpg a petrol one, then your choice is limited most petrol ones being the E63

Best be saving those pennies...

Memory seats are about all that is missing, but as I'm the only driver, it's really not a deal breaker

It certainly cuts the mustard, and is far more comfortable and capacious than any Insignia could ever dream to be.
As for the Omega, that is still a very capable car, and difficult to beat for most peoples needs. The differences compared to the E class are simply generational... the design is 2009 rather than 1993 after all

[tunnie]

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I think that the COMAND system is also optional on the CLS320.....so best to check.

It seems that everything is an option on all all Mercs ...... I miss my memory seats 

Including the dipstick.

.......and although the seats were electric there was no memory function as standard on mine.

Under the bonnet or behind the wheel?     

Mine does have both 

Likewise

The 350 requires adblue, which the four pots don't... worth bearing in mind if you do alot of urban work...

What's that?

[martin42]

http://www.compassfuels.co.uk/what-is-adblue-and-what-are-its-uses/

[05omegav6]

Wot 'e said ^^^^

Filtered piss (literally) which helps with emissions

Most trucks/vans use it... sold by every petrol station, but is a service item on the 350cdi, which suggests a level of inaccessibility 

[tunnie]

Always learning something, thanks 

[Blaster Bates]

Likewise

The 350 requires adblue, which the four pots don't... worth bearing in mind if you do alot of urban work...

What's that?

Its a wanky additive squirted into the exhaust of some diesels to meet emission requirements.

The better engines out there dont need it and it works with the catalyist to reduce NOx levels.

Urea and water are the main ingredients (hence beer piss would do the same thing).

A real pain in the arse in reality......ask a haulier what they think lol

[tunnie]

Likewise

The 350 requires adblue, which the four pots don't... worth bearing in mind if you do alot of urban work...

What's that?

Its a wanky additive squirted into the exhaust of some diesels to meet emission requirements.

The better engines out there dont need it and it works with the catalyist to reduce NOx levels.

Urea and water are the main ingredients (hence beer piss would do the same thing).

A real pain in the arse in reality......ask a haulier what they think lol

How long does it last? If it runs out, does that mean it fails emissions tests? 

Do the older 320 CDi engines need it? 

[05omegav6]

Pass I only found out when reading through the book pack

[Andy B]

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Do the older 320 CDi engines need it? 

Mine doesn't use it 

[05omegav6]

Think it's Euro 5 and newer

[tunnie]

Thanks Chaps. 

[Blaster Bates]

Euro 5 standard requires it, some Euro 4 also need it.

Its added at about 5% of the diesel consumption, cant see it beingdetectable at MOT time though.

It can drop CO2 levels so hence reduces tax banding.....I note that some of the 'Blue Motion' Vadge units need it now to.....

[pscocoa]

Very nice ride with Al to Gatwick this morning at 5.30am. Car wasn't bad either.

[05omegav6]

You're welcome

Car is certainly nowhere near as gay as the Insignia was

[tunnie]

You're welcome

Car is certainly nowhere near as gay as the Insignia was

Power goes to right wheels for starters