Topic: all set for LPG Day 1 (Read 2679 times)

tunnie · « **on:** 24 March 2010, 17:58:35 »

Lazydocker is arriving tomorrow so we can start my LPG project, just finished getting everything together, list of little bits here and there need is quite a bit, done about 3 trips to screwfix to get odd holescrews, cone drils and bolts.

Decided to put all the gear i have out on the garage floor to make things easy to find:

Throttle body, manifold, drill, soldering iron, pipework (cooling & polyflex)

Evaporator, tank valve, tank box, loads of water T's L's, filters, loads of bolts, bag was only £4, did not say how many came, think i might have gone a bit OTT

- Ah well could always do with a few spares

Main Loom, pressure sensors, and outer filler

ECU, 90 degree filler, manuals and paper work

All the gear, ready for the car in the background

alunonhisown · « **Reply #1 on:** 24 March 2010, 18:08:11 »

All that stuff to gas a car.
Good Luck to you friend.
When you have finished yours' you are more than welcome to play with mine, I think I could have phrased that better.

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #2 on:** 24 March 2010, 18:29:42 »

Looks like you're all set.

Hope it goes well. Sorry I'm not around to ~~jinx it~~ help.

Kevin

tunnie · « **Reply #3 on:** 24 March 2010, 18:30:19 »

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Looks like you're all set. Hope it goes well. Sorry I'm not around to ~~jinx it~~ help.

Kevin

Cheers for all your help so far

PhilRich · « **Reply #4 on:** 24 March 2010, 18:48:24 »

Good man Tunnie

Go to it with a heavy dose of Confidence and a light touch on the tools

Ian_D · « **Reply #5 on:** 24 March 2010, 19:00:31 »

Good luck mate...

Still keep thinking about LPGing mine... not sure still...

Is my R reg 3.0 Elite worth LPGing? :-? I dunno... maybe?

tunnie · « **Reply #6 on:** 24 March 2010, 19:02:58 »

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Good luck mate...

Still keep thinking about LPGing mine... not sure still...

Is my R reg 3.0 Elite worth LPGing? :-? I dunno... maybe?

Well mines a X plate on 137k (lot for a 4 pot)

But seen 4 pot petrols in the scrappy with 250k, i expect to save £10 a day, and it will be paid back within 5 months on business miles alone.

Even if i only get 2 more years of use out of the car, which is about right given my current millage. It will have paid for itself time and time again

SP_3.2 · « **Reply #7 on:** 24 March 2010, 20:53:29 »

Good luck with it all

Entwood · « **Reply #8 on:** 24 March 2010, 20:55:41 »

Something missing from that list of bits .........

A tank

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #9 on:** 24 March 2010, 21:04:30 »

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Something missing from that list of bits .........

A tank

He has got a Challenger 2 on order.

I told him he needs a Stako

tunnie · « **Reply #10 on:** 24 March 2010, 21:08:57 »

90L Stako Torpedo tank with frame in the boot already

(not mounted)

Entwood · « **Reply #11 on:** 24 March 2010, 21:21:26 »

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90L Stako Torpedo tank with frame in the boot already (not mounted)

I would hope not .. 'tis a family site ..

tunnie · « **Reply #12 on:** 24 March 2010, 21:22:28 »

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90L Stako Torpedo tank with frame in the boot already (not mounted)

I would hope not .. 'tis a family site ..

I prefer the 100L ones

Lazydocker · « **Reply #13 on:** 24 March 2010, 21:43:54 »

Glad you're all set... I've changed my mind after TB's car

See you in the morning

Lazydocker · « **Reply #14 on:** 24 March 2010, 21:44:41 »

Oh... Forgot to add, I have 2 Sammy's so we can do anything

Darth Loo-knee · « **Reply #15 on:** 24 March 2010, 21:49:27 »

Eh Lazytinker.... do you want to come and play with Mrs. Loo-knee's?

tunnie · « **Reply #16 on:** 24 March 2010, 21:50:11 »

got a big sammy and to mini's as well so should be able to ~~bash through~~... do anything. Got to dig through my filing system

and find my drill set

joshwyatt · « **Reply #17 on:** 24 March 2010, 21:50:12 »

Does look very interesting Tunnie, looks like you've got enough assorted parts to be building a second car

If you fancy a hand, i.e with the easy stuff liking making the tea I'm more than happy to pop over for a bit

Lazydocker · « **Reply #18 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:01:26 »

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Eh Lazytinker.... do you want to come and play with Mrs. Loo-knee?

Really... Not sure Mrs LD will like that :-/ :-/

Patience is a virtue oh sleepless one

Just making some enquiries about tanks (for estates) at the moment, then we'll be going

Anyway... You hadn't asked until then :-?

Lazydocker · « **Reply #19 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:02:25 »

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Does look very interesting Tunnie, looks like you've got enough assorted parts to be building a second car
If you fancy a hand, i.e with the easy stuff liking making the tea I'm more than happy to pop over for a bit

Not my place to say yes... But Tunnie assures me there's plenty of Bacon butties to be cooked

Be nice to meet you

Lazydocker · « **Reply #20 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:03:50 »

Tunnie, have you found out which wires you need to tap into at the ECU?

And have you got the wiring diagram for the kit or do I need to bring my own?

tunnie · « **Reply #21 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:04:12 »

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Does look very interesting Tunnie, looks like you've got enough assorted parts to be building a second car
If you fancy a hand, i.e with the easy stuff liking making the tea I'm more than happy to pop over for a bit

Not my place to say yes... But Tunnie assures me there's plenty of Bacon butties to be cooked

Be nice to meet you

Your very welcome Josh, need someone to load the BBQ with bacon

Seriously though your welcome to pop down if your not doing anything

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #22 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:07:02 »

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Tunnie, have you found out which wires you need to tap into at the ECU?

And have you got the wiring diagram for the kit or do I need to bring my own?

I'm working on it.

There is a wiring diagram too.

Should have soldered some tails into the ECU harness ready last night. Completely overlooked that.

Kevin

tunnie · « **Reply #23 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:08:53 »

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Tunnie, have you found out which wires you need to tap into at the ECU?

And have you got the wiring diagram for the kit or do I need to bring my own?

Got the main diagram which shows which colours go where and such

tunnie · « **Reply #24 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:10:18 »

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Tunnie, have you found out which wires you need to tap into at the ECU?

And have you got the wiring diagram for the kit or do I need to bring my own?

I'm working on it.

There is a wiring diagram too.

Should have soldered some tails into the ECU harness ready last night. Completely overlooked that.

Kevin

Got the soldering iron here and some heat strink (some-ware) so should not be an issue

Lazydocker · « **Reply #25 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:13:48 »

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Tunnie, have you found out which wires you need to tap into at the ECU?

And have you got the wiring diagram for the kit or do I need to bring my own?

I'm working on it.

There is a wiring diagram too.

Should have soldered some tails into the ECU harness ready last night. Completely overlooked that.

Kevin

Ta... Wasn't sure if you'd have time so was covering other options

Not too worried about cutting in to the ECU loom TBH... I think it's too fiddly to get on the pins on the 2.2 isn't it? :-/

joshwyatt · « **Reply #26 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:15:33 »

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Does look very interesting Tunnie, looks like you've got enough assorted parts to be building a second car
If you fancy a hand, i.e with the easy stuff liking making the tea I'm more than happy to pop over for a bit

Not my place to say yes... But Tunnie assures me there's plenty of Bacon butties to be cooked

Be nice to meet you

Your very welcome Josh, need someone to load the BBQ with bacon

Seriously though your welcome to pop down if your not doing anything

Mmmm bacon

That sounds about the right skill level for me.
If you don't mind, I'll pop down if I've got some free time...what sort of time?

charlie · « **Reply #27 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:16:01 »

heat shrink, whats a matter with gaffa tape

albitz · « **Reply #28 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:16:29 »

Tunnie, you do know that you cant run the wiring loom through the passenger window dont you ?

Senator.

Hoping to be the owner of an LPG 3.2 myself shortly (If I can contact a certain chap.)

Lazydocker · « **Reply #29 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:17:02 »

Tunnie... I'll need a hand getting my tool box out of the boot tomorrow... Nearly killed myself putting it in today

Lazydocker · « **Reply #30 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:20:30 »

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Does look very interesting Tunnie, looks like you've got enough assorted parts to be building a second car
If you fancy a hand, i.e with the easy stuff liking making the tea I'm more than happy to pop over for a bit

Not my place to say yes... But Tunnie assures me there's plenty of Bacon butties to be cooked

Be nice to meet you

Your very welcome Josh, need someone to load the BBQ with bacon

Seriously though your welcome to pop down if your not doing anything

Mmmm bacon
That sounds about the right skill level for me.
If you don't mind, I'll pop down if I've got some free time...what sort of time?

All day... I should be there by 9 at the latest, traffic permitting

tunnie · « **Reply #31 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:21:41 »

Josh - Any time mate, in fact anytime over next 3 days

LD - Err i am not the strongest chap in the world as many who have met me will comment

- Back the car in and we can use the boot as the tool box

Albs - Course you can, Senator wiring job did not look great, but it worked

Lazydocker · « **Reply #32 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:27:43 »

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Josh - Any time mate, in fact anytime over next 3 days

LD - Err i am not the strongest chap in the world as many who have met me will comment - Back the car in and we can use the boot as the tool box

Albs - Course you can, Senator wiring job did not look great, but it worked

I managed to lift it in on my own, so you'll be fine... 4 wheetabix for brekkie young man

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #33 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:52:20 »

Just a quick one. Might well be a stupid question:

I assume it's a Z22XE with Simtec management?

TIS seems to show a Motronic diagram too. :-/

Kevin

tunnie · « **Reply #34 on:** 24 March 2010, 22:59:32 »

think all 2.2 petrol in Omega are Z22XE?

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #35 on:** 24 March 2010, 23:19:40 »

OK. Pinouts for SIMTEC:

+12v ignition switched feed Black X84 Pin 64
Tachometer                         Green X84 Pin 62
Mixture control Lambda       X83 Black Pin 57 signal pin
                                          X83 Grey Pin 8 ground pin

If you look at the routing of the looms from the ECU X83 is the connector where the loom heads round the engine itself. X84's loom heads through the bulkhead into the car.

I think the Lambda sensor pin you want is pin 57 but I've included pin 8 in case I've got them the wrong way round.

The ECU connectors are a bit dense so I find the best way is to find the pin on the connector, trace the correct coloured wire from that pin up the loom a little and scrape the insulation and solder there then insulate.

You might need to solder in connections to the petrol injectors as the connectors are part of the cable tray that sits over the injectors.

Kevin

Kevin Wood · « **Reply #36 on:** 24 March 2010, 23:20:44 »

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think all 2.2 petrol in Omega are Z22XE?

Yep. Just saw some references in TIS to Y22XE and a motronic ECU.

Kevin

david_omega · « **Reply #37 on:** 24 March 2010, 23:27:48 »

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All that stuff to gas a car.
Good Luck to you friend.
When you have finished yours' you are more than welcome to play with mine, I think I could have phrased that better.

gross

Lazydocker · « **Reply #38 on:** 24 March 2010, 23:29:33 »

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OK. Pinouts for SIMTEC:

+12v ignition switched feed Black X84 Pin 64
Tachometer                         Green X84 Pin 62
Mixture control Lambda       X83 Black Pin 57 signal pin
                                          X83 Grey Pin 8 ground pin

If you look at the routing of the looms from the ECU X83 is the connector where the loom heads round the engine itself. X84's loom heads through the bulkhead into the car.

I think the Lambda sensor pin you want is pin 57 but I've included pin 8 in case I've got them the wrong way round.

The ECU connectors are a bit dense so I find the best way is to find the pin on the connector, trace the correct coloured wire from that pin up the loom a little and scrape the insulation and solder there then insulate.

You might need to solder in connections to the petrol injectors as the connectors are part of the cable tray that sits over the injectors.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin

Looking forward to that now

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