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[Doctor Gollum]

Waiting for someone else to die isn't a plan, nor is expecting those left behind to deal with everything unprepared.

Grief is no foundation for sound decisions to be made... So preempt those decisions and get everyone on the same page with clear heads.

If that's simplistic, then so be it, but why complicate it so much? That's not fair on those left.

It's not complicated to try to understand that some, a lot, of people live from week to week, on the breadline. The death of the breadwinner is a catastrophe, one that cannot be mitigated beforehand. Simple, unless you want to get all nonsensical about it.
Therefore, despite your point of view, we will remain in lockdown and people's lives will be saved.

Define 'saved'...

Do one 

See, feeling betterer already

[STEMO]

Post number 20 is what I was talking about. WTF you are on about, god only knows.

Provided a will has been left then the executor named in the will shall have immediate access and control to the bank accounts of the bereaved. If the bereaved has money this can then be used to pay for funeral costs and other expenses. If the bereaved has no money then crisis loans/grants are available.

I really don't know why you are so obsessed with this topic. You seem distressed.

And you seem like you're on another planet, again 
Loans, grants 
By grant do you mean universal credit? ::)

No, silly, people without money can obtain a crisis grant from the DSS to help pay for the funeral costs. I know of somebody who received £2000 which is supposedly enough for a basic funeral without any frills. This money is rarely repaid.

And, if they have a few pennies left, they can have one last Big Mac, before they starve to death 
Unless they apply for universal credit, of course, from which the funeral loan will be deducted.

[STEMO]

Or.......we could all just stay in and then the breadwinner wouldn't die in the first place 

[Rangie]

Or.......we could all just stay in and then the breadwinner wouldn't die in the first place 

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At least you haven't been quite so bored this afternoon Steve, this topic has gone all round the houses ,did you have a good walk with the dog ?

[STEMO]

Or.......we could all just stay in and then the breadwinner wouldn't die in the first place 

. 

At least you haven't been quite so bored this afternoon Steve, this topic has gone all round the houses ,did you have a good walk with the dog ?

I did, Mick, thank you. Gonna watch Liverpool lose at West Ham now, that should improve my mood 

[dave the builder]

Waiting for someone else to die isn't a plan, nor is expecting those left behind to deal with everything unprepared.

Grief is no foundation for sound decisions to be made... So preempt those decisions and get everyone on the same page with clear heads.

If that's simplistic, then so be it, but why complicate it so much? That's not fair on those left.

It's not complicated to try to understand that some, a lot, of people live from week to week, on the breadline. The death of the breadwinner is a catastrophe, one that cannot be mitigated beforehand. Simple, unless you want to get all nonsensical about it.
Therefore, despite your point of view, we will remain in lockdown and people's lives will be saved.

Indeed
 "Keep calm and carry on" was tried last March, very briefly 
then people did the maths and decided thousands would die and the NHS would be over run .

because of the spread, people NOT following the rules ,the NHS IS over run .

125 thousand excess deaths 

many of those had families who cared and where left heartbroken  ,not just turned up for the will reading 

As Uncle Stemo said , if the diseased was the breadwinner ,that leaves major financial problems to deal with on to of the heartache  ,and borrowing money to pay for funerals just puts people into debt or even more debt  .

Had people taken Chinese Virus more seriously ,we could be in a much better place right now 

I've lost a sh** load of time/money in the last year, but I'd rather think of it as investing time/money into having family and loved ones still alive .

We probably will have to social distance etc for another year, not have holidays abroad, be careful and considerate of others, yes there will be a big bill to pay for many years to come ,but if everyone got on board and stopped spreading Chinese Virus everywhere ,thinking it won't effect them ,why should they bother, this would be over sooner .

[Rangie]

Or.......we could all just stay in and then the breadwinner wouldn't die in the first place 

. 

At least you haven't been quite so bored this afternoon Steve, this topic has gone all round the houses ,did you have a good walk with the dog ?

I did, Mick, thank you. Gonna watch Liverpool lose at West Ham now, that should improve my mood 

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And I've got a nice roast pork tea to look forward to , a good end to the day..👌

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Or.......we could all just stay in and then the breadwinner wouldn't die in the first place 

. 

At least you haven't been quite so bored this afternoon Steve, this topic has gone all round the houses ,did you have a good walk with the dog ?

The whippet is the one with the common sense.

As far as I am aware, if you don't register the death then you are not responsible for costs. A good tip you you don't happen to like the deceased.

I think the body/funeral expense then becomes the responsibility of the council.

This happens when people die with no next of kin and no money.

[STEMO]

Or.......we could all just stay in and then the breadwinner wouldn't die in the first place 

. 

At least you haven't been quite so bored this afternoon Steve, this topic has gone all round the houses ,did you have a good walk with the dog ?

The whippet is the one with the common sense.

As far as I am aware, if you don't register the death then you are not responsible for costs. A good tip you you don't happen to like the deceased.

I think the body/funeral expense then becomes the responsibility of the council.

This happens when people die with no next of kin and no money.

Interesting, but totally irrelevant to anything being discussed on here.

[STEMO]

Who would get away with the funeral costs if there was no next of kin? No one? 

[Doctor Gollum]

Waiting for someone else to die isn't a plan, nor is expecting those left behind to deal with everything unprepared.

Grief is no foundation for sound decisions to be made... So preempt those decisions and get everyone on the same page with clear heads.

If that's simplistic, then so be it, but why complicate it so much? That's not fair on those left.

It's not complicated to try to understand that some, a lot, of people live from week to week, on the breadline. The death of the breadwinner is a catastrophe, one that cannot be mitigated beforehand. Simple, unless you want to get all nonsensical about it.
Therefore, despite your point of view, we will remain in lockdown and people's lives will be saved.

Indeed
 "Keep calm and carry on" was tried last March, very briefly 
then people did the maths and decided thousands would die and the NHS would be over run .

because of the spread, people NOT following the rules ,the NHS IS over run .

125 thousand excess deaths 

many of those had families who cared and where left heartbroken  ,not just turned up for the will reading 

As Uncle Stemo said , if the diseased was the breadwinner ,that leaves major financial problems to deal with on to of the heartache  ,and borrowing money to pay for funerals just puts people into debt or even more debt  .

Had people taken Chinese Virus more seriously ,we could be in a much better place right now 

I've lost a sh** load of time/money in the last year, but I'd rather think of it as investing time/money into having family and loved ones still alive .

We probably will have to social distance etc for another year, not have holidays abroad, be careful and considerate of others, yes there will be a big bill to pay for many years to come ,but if everyone got on board and stopped spreading Chinese Virus everywhere ,thinking it won't effect them ,why should they bother, this would be over sooner .

Speculation and worry don't change nowt...

[STEMO]

Waiting for someone else to die isn't a plan, nor is expecting those left behind to deal with everything unprepared.

Grief is no foundation for sound decisions to be made... So preempt those decisions and get everyone on the same page with clear heads.

If that's simplistic, then so be it, but why complicate it so much? That's not fair on those left.

It's not complicated to try to understand that some, a lot, of people live from week to week, on the breadline. The death of the breadwinner is a catastrophe, one that cannot be mitigated beforehand. Simple, unless you want to get all nonsensical about it.
Therefore, despite your point of view, we will remain in lockdown and people's lives will be saved.

Indeed
 "Keep calm and carry on" was tried last March, very briefly 
then people did the maths and decided thousands would die and the NHS would be over run .

because of the spread, people NOT following the rules ,the NHS IS over run .

125 thousand excess deaths 

many of those had families who cared and where left heartbroken  ,not just turned up for the will reading 

As Uncle Stemo said , if the diseased was the breadwinner ,that leaves major financial problems to deal with on to of the heartache  ,and borrowing money to pay for funerals just puts people into debt or even more debt  .

Had people taken Chinese Virus more seriously ,we could be in a much better place right now 

I've lost a sh** load of time/money in the last year, but I'd rather think of it as investing time/money into having family and loved ones still alive .

We probably will have to social distance etc for another year, not have holidays abroad, be careful and considerate of others, yes there will be a big bill to pay for many years to come ,but if everyone got on board and stopped spreading Chinese Virus everywhere ,thinking it won't effect them ,why should they bother, this would be over sooner .

Speculation and worry don't change nowt...

We're used to your M.O., we had a laugh in the Donald threads as well.

[Rangie]

Yes there's always one 😁😁😁

[STEMO]

Yes there's always one 😁😁😁

Unfortunately, there's a lot of them, Mick. Inhabiting the dark corners of YouTube, mumbling how the vast majority is wrong, and they are right. It must be a miserable existence.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Anyway, Ive just got back from my 1.7 mile walk and my legs are facked. Cant be arsed with you lot arguing so pack it in.
I have no worries about what inheritance I might get as no-one has ever left me a penny and no-one ever will, so count yourselves lucky.