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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Mr Gav on 29 July 2015, 12:09:27
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Has anyone got this yet?
I've had two failed updates on my laptop and one failed on my desktop, anyone else had the same?
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Still using beta on mine, awaiting for the final update to download on the win7 machine, been told might take a day or two now depending where about on the Globe you are, as theve already had some crashes from releases from earlier this morning
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What happened there, only posted once. :-\
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The internet must be busy today for some reason ;D
I just looked at the update history on the laptop and it failed this morning at 7 and then failed again at 12, and my desktop failed at quarter to seven this morning, two different machines with two different os.
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Just finshed updating to windows 10, worked like a treat..............for now ::)
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Personally, I am going to wait a bit ;-)
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Just finshed updating to windows 10, worked like a treat..............for now ::)
Whar was you on before 7 or 8.1, has it giving you a roll back choice?
The bit I'm interested in, is whether the on air update, runs as an upgrade, or a complete re install, ie, does it get rid of all your previous Win rubbish, or its all that still left behind.
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if you want a disk just search for the windows 10 media creation tool :y
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Was Win 8.1, it keeps all your previous files and preloaded etc. tidies up the screen a bit & thats about it thus far, not really played wi it yet
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLFYvMFUcAAo3_R.png)
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Oooops! :(
..and it went 'dugga dugga dugga dugga' no more. ;D
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Actually not my screenshot but it did amuse me.. I installed an Outlook update this morning for which the release notes read:
This update provides the following fixes and improvements:
• Outlook
◦ Clutter
◦ Bug fixes
Detailed, Microsoft.. very detailed!
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Love that screenshot. ;D ;D
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No probs here, downloaded straight away glad to have the old start menu back. Time will tell I suppose.
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Seems to be downloading and installing fine on mine ....for the moment
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if you want a disk just search for the windows 10 media creation tool :y
That gets you a clean install, or you can grab win10 from a beta trial, which is the correct way of going, but as far as I know any free win10 only gives you 12 months free licence, after which you pay for it. The win7 and 8.1 auto upgrades are win10 licence for the life of the machine.
Unless things have changed :-\
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Just finshed updating to windows 10, worked like a treat..............for now ::)
Whar was you on before 7 or 8.1, has it giving you a roll back choice?
The bit I'm interested in, is whether the on air update, runs as an upgrade, or a complete re install, ie, does it get rid of all your previous Win rubbish, or its all that still left behind.
It's just an upgrade, about 3.5Gb, once you've upgraded though I don't suppose there's anything to stop you getting a full version on line and then doing a clean install.
I don't have much rubbish to leave behind cos I did a clean install a couple of weeks ago :-)
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if you want a disk just search for the windows 10 media creation tool :y
That gets you a clean install, or you can grab win10 from a beta trial, which is the correct way of going, but as far as I know any free win10 only gives you 12 months free licence, after which you pay for it. The win7 and 8.1 auto upgrades are win10 licence for the life of the machine.
Unless things have changed :-\
If you upgrade within a year, Windows 10 is free on that machine (only) for life.
Got a couple running 10240 from trial. Not done any of my "main" machines yet.
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Just finshed updating to windows 10, worked like a treat..............for now ::)
Whar was you on before 7 or 8.1, has it giving you a roll back choice?
The bit I'm interested in, is whether the on air update, runs as an upgrade, or a complete re install, ie, does it get rid of all your previous Win rubbish, or its all that still left behind.
It's just an upgrade, about 3.5Gb, once you've upgraded though I don't suppose there's anything to stop you getting a full version on line and then doing a clean install.
I don't have much rubbish to leave behind cos I did a clean install a couple of weeks ago :-)
ok, thanks, sounds like its a complete install then, as a fresh win10 install pack is also about 3.5gb.
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if you want a disk just search for the windows 10 media creation tool :y
That gets you a clean install, or you can grab win10 from a beta trial, which is the correct way of going, but as far as I know any free win10 only gives you 12 months free licence, after which you pay for it. The win7 and 8.1 auto upgrades are win10 licence for the life of the machine.
Unless things have changed :-\
If you upgrade within a year, Windows 10 is free on that machine (only) for life.
Got a couple running 10240 from trial. Not done any of my "main" machines yet.
So to clarify then, a fresh install of win10 or a free over air upgrade are both free for life on that machine. :y
I was under the impression only the upgrades were. :-\
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Just finshed updating to windows 10, worked like a treat..............for now ::)
Whar was you on before 7 or 8.1, has it giving you a roll back choice?
The bit I'm interested in, is whether the on air update, runs as an upgrade, or a complete re install, ie, does it get rid of all your previous Win rubbish, or its all that still left behind.
It's just an upgrade, about 3.5Gb, once you've upgraded though I don't suppose there's anything to stop you getting a full version on line and then doing a clean install.
I don't have much rubbish to leave behind cos I did a clean install a couple of weeks ago :-)
ok, thanks, sounds like its a complete install then, as a fresh win10 install pack is also about 3.5gb.
They must have slimed it down a bit because Windows 7 was about 6Gb IIRC
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Neither of my machines is installing windows 10 so I`m having to use the media creation tool :-\
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So, did the upgrade, froze half way through, waited, waited........ got bored........ did a re boot, .. now boots up win7 quickly then flashes Blue Screen of Death briefly and reboots itself to the same deal every time.
FFS, got all my files backed so no real issues, just a bloody pita to have to do a rebuild now. >:( >:( >:(.
Based on that I would say wait a week or two before upgrading, obviously still buggy. ::)
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Downloaded and installed on my laptop first time I think it looks a lot better and seems quicker
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Sounds like you rebooted before the installation was complete.
The Three hours in and I'm only on about 75% on one and about 60% on the other, looks like a slow process :-\
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Edge is just as shit as IE, so I'll be sticking with FF thankyouverymuch! >:(
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Currently installing, At 75% last I checked.
(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p620/Agemo_Legend/9D8D7E7B-7F37-4D33-AA5C-ADFD2935ECA9_zpsxiayljwj.jpg) (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/Agemo_Legend/media/9D8D7E7B-7F37-4D33-AA5C-ADFD2935ECA9_zpsxiayljwj.jpg.html)
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The Three hours in and I'm only on about 75% on one and about 60% on the other, looks like a slow process
3 hours??? :o :o :o
Mine took less than an hour
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The Three hours in and I'm only on about 75% on one and about 60% on the other, looks like a slow process
3 hours??? :o :o :o
Mine took less than an hour
Same. Probably just over 50 minutes from start to finish, and I selected Customise Options instead of Express when it first booted.
Some people must still be using 286's ;D
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I'm doing mine via the media creation tool due to give failures so it's slightly different, nearly five hours and the laptop its nearly done, the desktop it's still under 80% :-\
Supposedly 100mbps download speed although I think it's more to do with the servers as I downloaded a file from a host and it was done in minutes.
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So, do I take it that we should be updating with this?.................. :-\
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So, do I take it that we should be updating with this?.................. :-\
From my point of view, not yet, give it a week or so. Ÿ ;)
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So, do I take it that we should be updating with this?.................. :-\
From my point of view, not yet, give it a week or so. Ÿ ;)
Where's your sense of Adventure? :P
I'm using Windows 10. It's betterer than 8, but still not the 'proper' Start Menu like they promised. Still no built-in DVD playback, and the Microsoft Account integration is annoying as STEMO after a few pints. I've not used my Hotmail acount in probably 10 years, so I've now got pictures and stuff sprouting up in random places which I haven't seen for a decade. ;D
I wish I set it up with a NEW Microsoft Account. That would have been the better option.
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I've got it on my desktop now after leaving it to do it's stiff last night and all seems ok so far. My laptop had got to the inflation but said the displayed language would be different and I'd need to reinstall the language pack later. Without knowing which language was going to be displayed I cancelled it as I need my laptop today for work i want going to take the risk .
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Desktop Win 8 took about an hour, Laptop Win 7, second attempt been running for about 2 hours now.
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I certainly wouldn't be attempting it on anything older than 2-3 years old (ie, Win8 era) unless the PC was a very good spec.
Zirk, you have to do the upgrade first, to register the machine. Then you can reinstall as many times as you like on that PC, for life. That is my understanding.
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I certainly wouldn't be attempting it on anything older than 2-3 years old (ie, Win8 era) unless the PC was a very good spec.
Zirk, you have to do the upgrade first, to register the machine. Then you can reinstall as many times as you like on that PC, for life. That is my understanding.
Got it working on my BBC micro, Commodore & Sinclair no probs. ;)
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Will it work on my Amiga 500 ?
Any idea how many floppies i'll need to put Windows 10 on it ?
:D
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Will it work on my Amiga 500 ?
Any idea how many floppies i'll need to put Windows 10 on it ?
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Yes, about 5,000,000 :D
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Down loaded mine last night,no problems but I lost windows 7,which I used much more than the windows 8.1 which was what the lappy came with.
Have to wait for my mate to come back from holiday to reinstall,much easier for a non I t bloke to use.
Alfie
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Been having a look on one of my test boxes....Theyve not proofread the help very well ;D Thought I was going to windows 10, not 8.1 ;D ;D ;D
What can I keep when I upgrade?
What you can keep depends on the version of Windows you're running on your PC, so you'll only see the options available to you. Here's what you might see:
Windows settings
This keeps your settings such as Ease of Access, your desktop background, or Internet favourites and history.
Personal files
This keeps any files that are saved in your User folder, such as your Documents and Desktop folders.
Apps
This keeps apps that will work after you've upgraded. To get a report of which apps you currently have on your PC that will work, and those that won't, run the Upgrade Assistant, available online at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=261871 before you upgrade (you'll need to close Set-up to run the Upgrade Assistant). Some apps might work after you've upgraded but you'll need to reinstall them. You'll see a list of these in the report. You'll need your original installation media to reinstall them.
Note: If you're upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1, you won't see "apps" as an option of items to keep, and you'll need to reinstall your apps using the original installation media.
Nothing
This deletes everything, including all of your apps, and replaces your current version of Windows with Windows 8.1. Your personal files will be moved to the windows.old folder. You can find more info online at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=12416.
If you choose Nothing, make sure you do the following before you continue:
· Back up your files to an external hard drive, DVD or CD, USB flash drive or network folder.
· Find the installation media or confirmation emails - if you bought programs online - for the apps that will work and will need to be reinstalled.
Note: If you use a fingerprint reader or another biometric device to sign in to your PC, make sure you write down your password. You'll have to enter your username and password the first time you sign in to Windows after upgrading to Windows 8.1.
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On my windows 7 laptop, every app still works after the upgrade.
Perhaps I'm lucky?
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Installation still seems very buggy, especially if you have tons of apps on your old machine, my advice would be to clone your original C: hard drive, either as a roll back up or something to try it on first.
2 of 3 win10 upgrades Ive done on my Sons machines (all win7) have issues, including the Boot Up to the original OS and missing apps and a lot of stuff from the old desktop, all backed up so no real issues.
If you have lost stuff or important docs or info have a look in the Windows.old folder, should be in there somewhere, assuming you've not done a clean install.
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Like lemmings over the cliff :(
Nothing wrong with Win7. If it ain't broke... ::)
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Like lemmings over the cliff :(
Nothing wrong with Win7. If it ain't broke... ::)
On the contrary. Win 7 was a pile of shite.
Not half as bad as Win8, and some of us have machines with Win8 on from new. 8.1 Upgrade didn't help much, so to get a FREE upgrade to Win10 makes a lot of sense.
If I had a choice, I'd still be using Windows 3.1. I hated 95 when it came out, and I was running a Beta for donkey's.
I am an Apple FanBoy though. ::)
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Like lemmings over the cliff :(
Nothing wrong with Win7. If it ain't broke... ::)
:y :y :y
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Win 7 is a decent OS, with not a lot wrong with it apart from its now dated and won't support newer technologies coming along.
Win 8 is a very good OS, let down by its split personality, causing a problematic UI for non-touch users.
Win 10 is a fix to that non-touch usability problem, a good tweak of Win 8.1, in the same way Win 7 was a good usability tweak of Vista.
Standard rules apply though, if you rely on a PC, don't upgrade its OS for a few months after an OS is launched.
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Anyone using Edge or still using IE?
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I tend to use Edge on Win10, but fall back to IE if Edge cant render a page properly.
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PC is XP.... Lappy is Vista. so I'm out of luck all round unless I want to fork out... :'(
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Upgraded three of my W7 machines without incident :)
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PC is XP.... Lappy is Vista. so I'm out of luck all round unless I want to fork out... :'(
Not really...there is a free route ::)
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Public service announcement!
Check your folders before upgrading ;D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3184771/Man-updates-PC-Windows-10-wife-entire-PORN-collection-transformed-slideshow-repeat.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3184771/Man-updates-PC-Windows-10-wife-entire-PORN-collection-transformed-slideshow-repeat.html)
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PMSL ;D Thats the one thing I hate about computers, when they decide what to do with your content without asking if it`s what you want, the same goes with media players when they decide to organise your music for you :(
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(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26795734/Smilies/doh.gif)
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Not really...there is a free route 'Giz a clue'...... ;)
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My crappy little netbook which I use for keeping various instruction manuals, LPG software, "My Naff Code Reader" software has been running shite for a while.
Internet is that slow, you could type out a message, print it and send it second class post to your mate next door before it will send a email >:(
IE is not even worth trying either >:(
Its a duel boot unit with Win 7 ultimate on one side and Kali Linux on the other so a clean install will be hard work :-X
Its got to the point that Microsoft Essentials refuses to update or work either.
I've tried rolling it back and other things with no success.
I've checked the spec and Win 10 should work okay but obviously it ain't going to break and speed records :(
Is updating it to Win 10 while it is a update (not a full install) a good idea ?
Especially with the current option of reverting back to Win 7 within a month ?
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If you are using kali linux, then you should be geek enough to know the answer already ;D :y
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If you are using kali linux, then you should be geek enough to know the answer already ;D :y
Pm incoming ;D
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Public service announcement!
Check your folders before upgrading ;D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3184771/Man-updates-PC-Windows-10-wife-entire-PORN-collection-transformed-slideshow-repeat.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3184771/Man-updates-PC-Windows-10-wife-entire-PORN-collection-transformed-slideshow-repeat.html)
Damn, I was just about to post the same article.. so now we know why Opti needs a new laptop! ;D ;D
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;D ;D
yeah break all to do with this hottie of a SIL ;D
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My comp started the install (at least I clicked on something) A window came up with a thing going round and round, with 'Working on it' underneath. Been going for over 2 hours now. Is this right !!!!!!!
What will happen if I turn the computer off, as I am staying in Brackley for the week from today :(
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My comp started the install (at least I clicked on something) A window came up with a thing going round and round, with 'Working on it' underneath. Been going for over 2 hours now. Is this right !!!!!!!
What will happen if I turn the computer off, as I am staying in Brackley for the week from today :(
Is that after the main install, ie, the background is constantly changing colour? If so, should be safe to restart it.
If its at the "clock" bit, nah, it'll be toast
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When windows started a box appeared saying 10 was ready to update... first box came up with about three choices, one of which said install. I clicked... that changed to a rectangular window which is plain blue one side, with a window on the other side. In the blue side, is a circle of dots that keep going round and round, sometimes making a circle, sometimes only a semi circle. Under these dots it just says Working on it. Been going round for three hours now. And in the white band at the bottom of the blue rectangle it just says Microsoft
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Has it done a reboot yet?
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Opps, just cocked up my primary laptop, forgot to upgrade before doing a burn and build.
*sigh*, time to dig out the Win7 disks and redo it all again :(
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I personally wouldn't recommend Win10 yet on your primary machines. Give it a few weeks, let others suffer the pain.
I'm only doing it as if I don't put it on one of my primary machines, I'll never end up using it :-[.
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No reboot at all....just that bloody ring of dots going round !!!
Since 9.00am this morning
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Apparently both my laptops don't have compatible processors. :-[
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With Win8 and later, everything is dots going around, hence that's not descriptive ;)
If it hasn't done the first "SAFE" reboot, you should be OK to pull the plug on it, as it should automatically revert as a failed upgrade. However, there is always the chance it won't.
Obviously, you took a full backup of data and licence key before attempting this? Of course you did.
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Apparently both my laptops don't have compatible processors. :-[
No NX? Jeez, how old are they!
You may get away with 32bit version (suitable for up to 3Gb RAM (actually preferred for <4Gb RAM)), as this has less CPU restrictions.
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This drive is expendable...so I think I will pull the plug. When I reboot, if this drive does not boot, I'll boot onto the other.....and as you say, matey, dig out my bootable flash drive :y
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This drive is expendable...so I think I will pull the plug. When I reboot, if this drive does not boot, I'll boot onto the other.....and as you say, matey, dig out my bootable flash drive :y
I'd offer to help if you brought it up, but full of snot, and making silly mistakes today :-[
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Opps, just cocked up my primary laptop, forgot to upgrade before doing a burn and build.
*sigh*, time to dig out the Win7 disks and redo it all again :(
Win7 reinstalled. I'd forgotten how quickly it goes on :y
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Thanks for the offer TB, but heavy comp !!!!!! It will wait. Good job daughter taking us out to dinner tonight, as I was coming round for high tea ;D
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Apparently both my laptops don't have compatible processors. :-[
No NX? Jeez, how old are they!
You may get away with 32bit version (suitable for up to 3Gb RAM (actually preferred for <4Gb RAM)), as this has less CPU restrictions.
Errr Dell E6500's with a bit extra RAM and Disk... I might even switch one on and have a look tgis weekend if I CBA lol
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Killed the box.....no messages or anything...obviously corrupt. I'll monitor on here all the problems over the next week, and have another go, possibly, when I get back home.......
Brackley here I come....... ;D :y
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Oh and a D430 in the car for Diags pmsl
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Yes, Mr VXL, have you considered Antiques Roadshow ;D
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Well they can run a web browser, run outlook and PuTTY so they meet my exacting requirements! ::)
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Well they can run a web browser, run outlook and PuTTY so they meet my exacting requirements! ::)
What more does anyone need! :)
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Opps, just cocked up my primary laptop, forgot to upgrade before doing a burn and build.
*sigh*, time to dig out the Win7 disks and redo it all again :(
Win7 reinstalled. I'd forgotten how quickly it goes on :y
Win7 upgraded to Win10, and activated. Now starting burn and build.
What a wally
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Opps, just cocked up my primary laptop, forgot to upgrade before doing a burn and build.
*sigh*, time to dig out the Win7 disks and redo it all again :(
Win7 reinstalled. I'd forgotten how quickly it goes on :y
I ended up doing that, formatted the whole lot, then did a win7 rebuild followed by 10, 10 now running but keeps asking me for the key, which its telling my old one isn't valid, despite the fact it is. ::)
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Opps, just cocked up my primary laptop, forgot to upgrade before doing a burn and build.
*sigh*, time to dig out the Win7 disks and redo it all again :(
Win7 reinstalled. I'd forgotten how quickly it goes on :y
I ended up doing that, formatted the whole lot, then did a win7 rebuild followed by 10, 10 now running but keeps asking me for the key, which its telling my old one isn't valid, despite the fact it is. ::)
Did you remember to activate the Win7 one, before doing the upgrade?
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Opps, just cocked up my primary laptop, forgot to upgrade before doing a burn and build.
*sigh*, time to dig out the Win7 disks and redo it all again :(
Win7 reinstalled. I'd forgotten how quickly it goes on :y
I ended up doing that, formatted the whole lot, then did a win7 rebuild followed by 10, 10 now running but keeps asking me for the key, which its telling my old one isn't valid, despite the fact it is. ::)
Did you remember to activate the Win7 one, before doing the upgrade?
Urm, .....no, I was in fast forward mode. ::)
Right, how do you spell Format again.
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Something like G=C800:5
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Been running both Laptop and Desktop on Win 10 since release.
No problems, quite like it, both machines boot up faster :y
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Been running both Laptop and Desktop on Win 10 since release.
No problems, quite like it, both machines boot up faster :y
I've found boot up times to be approximately the same between Win7 and Win10 on the limited tests I've don so far on my primary laptop (8yr old, Core2 Duo, 2Gb RAM) - approx. 13s from off to ready.
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My comp started the install (at least I clicked on something) A window came up with a thing going round and round, with 'Working on it' underneath. Been going for over 2 hours now. Is this right !!!!!!!
What will happen if I turn the computer off, as I am staying in Brackley for the week from today :(
It took my desktop over five hours on the day of release, I did my aging laptop on Tuesday and it took 3-4 hours, just let it do it`s thing, you can still use the pc while it is downloading and preparing, btw I used the media creation tool to install mine.
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downloaded and installed in just over an hour,two days later and about 20 mins and back to good ole win 7 I thought 10 was garbage
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Apparently both my laptops don't have compatible processors. :-[
No NX? Jeez, how old are they!
You may get away with 32bit version (suitable for up to 3Gb RAM (actually preferred for <4Gb RAM)), as this has less CPU restrictions.
Errr Dell E6500's with a bit extra RAM and Disk... I might even switch one on and have a look tgis weekend if I CBA lol
T9600 Core2 Duo 2.8Ghz ::)
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Apparently both my laptops don't have compatible processors. :-[
No NX? Jeez, how old are they!
You may get away with 32bit version (suitable for up to 3Gb RAM (actually preferred for <4Gb RAM)), as this has less CPU restrictions.
Errr Dell E6500's with a bit extra RAM and Disk... I might even switch one on and have a look tgis weekend if I CBA lol
T9600 Core2 Duo 2.8Ghz ::)
It'll run it - my T7250 does, and lacks TET which the T9600 has - but might have to be 32 bit. Which limits you to 4Gb, with approx. 3.2-3.5Gb usable.
Well optimised, that should run it very nicely. But it is an antique still ;)
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Poxy Edge browser doesn't allow clicking of the smilies above the text box to insert, grrrrrr.
How come I'd not noticed that in 8 months of pretesting :(
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I have been getting the
"100% complete
Do not turn off your computer"
Message for 6 hours now. System is i5 5200U, 8GB ram. Sometimes I when this happens when installing regular updates (but never this long) I restart it manually out of impatience. Tempted to do this now
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Well its now 4 hours later and still the same message. So I turned the computer off and back on again and now its moved on to the next stage. Should have done this 9 hours ago >:(
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Very impressed so far (for a Microsoft Product).
Windows 10 is very fluid, it runs well, everything that I used to run, runs....... It's great. It look pretty. Very much like Apple OSx. Microsoft playing catch-up again!
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Been running both Laptop and Desktop on Win 10 since release.
No problems, quite like it, both machines boot up faster :y
I've found boot up times to be approximately the same between Win7 and Win10 on the limited tests I've don so far on my primary laptop (8yr old, Core2 Duo, 2Gb RAM) - approx. 13s from off to ready.
Couldn't wait that long..... :o
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Upgraded the father-in-law to-be's laptop to Windows 10 yesterday, painless process has to be said :y
Think he glad to get rid of Windows 8, amount of hacks in place to get 'traditional' features.
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quite happy with win 7 wouldn't touch win 8 with bargepole and win 10 looks a bit dodgy on privacy see http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/ (http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/)
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Upgraded the father-in-law to-be's laptop to Windows 10 yesterday, painless process has to be said :y
Think he glad to get rid of Windows 8, amount of hacks in place to get 'traditional' features.
8.1 with all the updates isn't too bad, unless you insist on using a PC like it still had XP (Vista and later, its all about search), but still suffered from its split personality of touch/non-touch.
IMHO, Win10 is an improvement over Win8.1, but Edge in particular has a lot of rough edges still.
My benchmark on user intelligence - my mum - would suggest that Win10 needs a few weeks/months before being recommended.
There is a lot to like - for example, my laptop found my network AIO LaserJet Pro using the printer control panel applet, and not only set up the printer (complete with all the proper icons/images), but also automatically set up the scanner part as well. Its this "just works" stuff that impresses me. But not quite ready for prime time yet...
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quite happy with win 7 wouldn't touch win 8 with bargepole and win 10 looks a bit dodgy on privacy see http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/ (http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/)
And Win7 and Win8 don't (by default)? And Google OS's (Chrome and Android)? Apple's IOS?
As data and services move to the cloud, clearly information has to be uploaded. And in Googles case, its their primary business.
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quite happy with win 7 wouldn't touch win 8 with bargepole and win 10 looks a bit dodgy on privacy see http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/ (http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/)
And Win7 and Win8 don't (by default)? And Google OS's (Chrome and Android)? Apple's IOS?
As data and services move to the cloud, clearly information has to be uploaded. And in Googles case, its their primary business.
All of the above have adopted the "customer is the product" model these days. Better get used to giving them a wide berth in future if you value your privacy. ;)
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Mother decided in her infinite wisdom to run the upgrade, inspite of my protestation to wait a month or two ::)
Apparently all is well thus far...
Won't be upgrading the 8.1 lappy just yet though ;)
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quite happy with win 7 wouldn't touch win 8 with bargepole and win 10 looks a bit dodgy on privacy see http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/ (http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/)
And Win7 and Win8 don't (by default)? And Google OS's (Chrome and Android)? Apple's IOS?
As data and services move to the cloud, clearly information has to be uploaded. And in Googles case, its their primary business.
All of the above have adopted the "customer is the product" model these days. Better get used to giving them a wide berth in future if you value your privacy. ;)
Trouble is, I can't think of a modern OS that doesn't have similar privacy concerns. At least some are honest about it.