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« on: 05 December 2020, 16:48:22 »
TheBoy: yes, I'm not totally convinced by that either - there must be SNP supporters who would prefer to be out of the UK and the EU. And at the same time, the UK government has consistently opposed Scottish independence even when it's following a brexit policy.
I get that it's not entirely the same thing, but the basic question is whether being within or outside a territorial union is fundamentally better - in that sense, a brexit supporter should also support Scottish independence on principle, and a Scottish independence supporter should support brexit. But it doesn't look like that.
Aside from that, I think the UK/EU talks are going won't have much to do with independence ideology, more about cold, hard cash. The UK has more than a bit of history trying to join Europe, going back to Macmillan and Heath - they must have seen a net benefit, and had to overcome opposition to entry here and in Europe.
Which I think is becoming the key difficulty now. Boris and Co are aiming to leave but somehow hold onto the benefit, and the EU will obviously not allow that easily. I don't see any easy solutions and am left wondering A. what fudgey compromise we're going to end up with and B. whether going about it the way we have was ideal.
It might have been more prudent to push for change from within instead of from outside - we did that successfully before. But we've kind of managed to get ourselves between a rock and a hard place now. And left it very late to resolve.