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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: submarinewasher on 18 September 2011, 12:12:01
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Afternoon peeps!
My cheapo Eastern European tyres will need replacing soon.
What size and brand of tyre was OEM?
Any other suggestions from people who've experimented with other brands?
(I'm primarily looking for comfort and quietness, not racetrack performance)
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ive heard good things from matadors not expensive got long lasting middle of the road really
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i'm in the market for new tyres too, tricky balance against noise levels & grip :-/
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kumhos and hankook s2 are ok both for comfort and price.. however their perfomance slightly less than top spec tires (conti and bridgestone)..but if you wont hammer under rain you wont feel..
I must note that if only comfort and noise was my priority and price and tire life is not a big concern I would buy michelin primacy hp.. very soft and silent tire.. but not long lasting and expensive..and also structure not that robust like conti and bridgestone
and if you are going to buy expensive tires either conti sc5 or bridgestone potenza s001.
micheline ps3 is also a good tire but tire life relatively short and not very good in colder climates..
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kumhos and hankook s2 are ok both for comfort and price.. however their perfomance slightly less than top spec tires (conti and bridgestone)..but if you wont hammer under rain you wont feel..
I must note that if only comfort and noise was my priority and price and tire life is not a big concern I would buy michelin primacy hp.. very soft and silent tire.. but not long lasting and expensive..and also structure not that robust like conti and bridgestone
and if you are going to buy expensive tires either conti sc5 or bridgestone potenza s001.
micheline ps3 is also a good tire but tire life relatively short and not very good in colder climates..
I thought Primacy had really good wear rates? :-/
http://shop.atseuromaster.co.uk/eshop/en_GB/products/michelin/primacy-hp/235-45-17-94-W-1-4IT-2074/mode/beforebuyingsequence/currentPosition/28
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Don't rate potenza 001 that highly tbh. For the wear rate I expected more grip. Sc3 superior on both criteria.
good tyre I suppose but better available.
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
Any recommendations for a quiet tyre with decent-ish grip?
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Don't rate potenza 001 that highly tbh. For the wear rate I expected more grip. Sc3 superior on both criteria.
good tyre I suppose but better available.
Falkens perchance Chris ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Set of BF Goodrich on the front of mine and still good life left after 30k,think they were about £85 each.
Have had good wear/noise levels from Pirelli Rosso,s and have a set on the rar at the moment which have about 18k but still reasonable tread left.
I have found Michelins to last well but bit noisey as they are a very hard tyre and dont give much response.They are also by far the most expensive and imho not worth the extra cost.
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Hancook K105's on the front caused bad tramlining on my car. Moved them to the rear wheels where they did not cause any problems. Fitted P6's to the front and cured the tramlining.
Alan
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
Any recommendations for a quiet tyre with decent-ish grip?
When I bought my current Omega in Dec. `09 previous owner had these fitted in the Sept. I`ve done about 12K since, about 4-5mm tread left. No tramlining, decent grip, near zero roadnoise. "W" rated. As said, budget tyre but ticks the boxes for me as I don`t need to leave rubber behind me to know where I`ve just come from ;D
http://www.allnewtyres.co.uk/tyre-details.asp?id=2781&Tracmax F106 225 55 16 / 2255516 99W New Car Tyres
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
Any recommendations for a quiet tyre with decent-ish grip?
When I bought my current Omega in Dec. `09 previous owner had these fitted in the Sept. I`ve done about 12K since, about 4-5mm tread left. No tramlining, decent grip, near zero roadnoise. "W" rated. As said, budget tyre but ticks the boxes for me as I don`t need to leave rubber behind me to know where I`ve just come from ;D
http://www.allnewtyres.co.uk/tyre-details.asp?id=2781&Tracmax F106 225 55 16 / 2255516 99W New Car Tyres
Cheers, can't get them in 235/45/17 though :(
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
Any recommendations for a quiet tyre with decent-ish grip?
When I bought my current Omega in Dec. `09 previous owner had these fitted in the Sept. I`ve done about 12K since, about 4-5mm tread left. No tramlining, decent grip, near zero roadnoise. "W" rated. As said, budget tyre but ticks the boxes for me as I don`t need to leave rubber behind me to know where I`ve just come from ;D
http://www.allnewtyres.co.uk/tyre-details.asp?id=2781&Tracmax F106 225 55 16 / 2255516 99W New Car Tyres
Cheers, can't get them in 235/45/17 though :(
Ahh, thought it was for yours Mark
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No suggestion about what you should go for, but absolutely avoid Sunny. Very very noisy on my '52 2.6 CDX Estate.
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
Any recommendations for a quiet tyre with decent-ish grip?
When I bought my current Omega in Dec. `09 previous owner had these fitted in the Sept. I`ve done about 12K since, about 4-5mm tread left. No tramlining, decent grip, near zero roadnoise. "W" rated. As said, budget tyre but ticks the boxes for me as I don`t need to leave rubber behind me to know where I`ve just come from ;D
http://www.allnewtyres.co.uk/tyre-details.asp?id=2781&Tracmax F106 225 55 16 / 2255516 99W New Car Tyres
Cheers, can't get them in 235/45/17 though :(
Ahh, thought it was for yours Mark
It is :-X :-X
Thinking Pirelli P7's :-/
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or Pirelli P Zero Rosso :-/
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kumhos and hankook s2 are ok both for comfort and price.. however their perfomance slightly less than top spec tires (conti and bridgestone)..but if you wont hammer under rain you wont feel..
I must note that if only comfort and noise was my priority and price and tire life is not a big concern I would buy michelin primacy hp.. very soft and silent tire.. but not long lasting and expensive..and also structure not that robust like conti and bridgestone
and if you are going to buy expensive tires either conti sc5 or bridgestone potenza s001.
micheline ps3 is also a good tire but tire life relatively short and not very good in colder climates..
I thought Primacy had really good wear rates? :-/
http://shop.atseuromaster.co.uk/eshop/en_GB/products/michelin/primacy-hp/235-45-17-94-W-1-4IT-2074/mode/beforebuyingsequence/currentPosition/28
on our roads if you can get over 15K miles either you are driving like grandma or you are exceptionally lucky.. you drop the car in few potholes and you have baloons everywhere ;D
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
Any recommendations for a quiet tyre with decent-ish grip?
When I bought my current Omega in Dec. `09 previous owner had these fitted in the Sept. I`ve done about 12K since, about 4-5mm tread left. No tramlining, decent grip, near zero roadnoise. "W" rated. As said, budget tyre but ticks the boxes for me as I don`t need to leave rubber behind me to know where I`ve just come from ;D
http://www.allnewtyres.co.uk/tyre-details.asp?id=2781&Tracmax F106 225 55 16 / 2255516 99W New Car Tyres
Cheers, can't get them in 235/45/17 though :(
Ahh, thought it was for yours Mark
It is :-X :-X
Thinking Pirelli P7's :-/
Thought you were running standard CD spec wheels :question
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
Any recommendations for a quiet tyre with decent-ish grip?
When I bought my current Omega in Dec. `09 previous owner had these fitted in the Sept. I`ve done about 12K since, about 4-5mm tread left. No tramlining, decent grip, near zero roadnoise. "W" rated. As said, budget tyre but ticks the boxes for me as I don`t need to leave rubber behind me to know where I`ve just come from ;D
http://www.allnewtyres.co.uk/tyre-details.asp?id=2781&Tracmax F106 225 55 16 / 2255516 99W New Car Tyres
Cheers, can't get them in 235/45/17 though :(
Ahh, thought it was for yours Mark
It is :-X :-X
Thinking Pirelli P7's :-/
Thought you were running standard CD spec wheels :question
I am on the 2.2 :)
These might be for another car thats will be mine ::)
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Don't rate potenza 001 that highly tbh. For the wear rate I expected more grip. Sc3 superior on both criteria.
good tyre I suppose but better available.
the wear rates for potenza not that slow.. I start to think that temperature differences cause the same tire to show different characters between UK and my country :-/
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
Any recommendations for a quiet tyre with decent-ish grip?
When I bought my current Omega in Dec. `09 previous owner had these fitted in the Sept. I`ve done about 12K since, about 4-5mm tread left. No tramlining, decent grip, near zero roadnoise. "W" rated. As said, budget tyre but ticks the boxes for me as I don`t need to leave rubber behind me to know where I`ve just come from ;D
http://www.allnewtyres.co.uk/tyre-details.asp?id=2781&Tracmax F106 225 55 16 / 2255516 99W New Car Tyres
Cheers, can't get them in 235/45/17 though :(
Ahh, thought it was for yours Mark
It is :-X :-X
Thinking Pirelli P7's :-/
Thought you were running standard CD spec wheels :question
I am on the 2.2 :)
These might be for another car thats will be mine ::)
Mig V6 perchance :question
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kumhos and hankook s2 are ok both for comfort and price.. however their perfomance slightly less than top spec tires (conti and bridgestone)..but if you wont hammer under rain you wont feel..
I must note that if only comfort and noise was my priority and price and tire life is not a big concern I would buy michelin primacy hp.. very soft and silent tire.. but not long lasting and expensive..and also structure not that robust like conti and bridgestone
and if you are going to buy expensive tires either conti sc5 or bridgestone potenza s001.
micheline ps3 is also a good tire but tire life relatively short and not very good in colder climates..
I thought Primacy had really good wear rates? :-/
http://shop.atseuromaster.co.uk/eshop/en_GB/products/michelin/primacy-hp/235-45-17-94-W-1-4IT-2074/mode/beforebuyingsequence/currentPosition/28
on our roads if you can get over 15K miles either you are driving like grandma or you are exceptionally lucky.. you drop the car in few potholes and you have baloons everywhere ;D
So 36k from my Falkens would be classed as quite good then in Spain? :D
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Also primacy last for ever ime. 30k not unusual, but very expensive, noisy and very poor grip. But not that poor given their mileage.
Any recommendations for a quiet tyre with decent-ish grip?
When I bought my current Omega in Dec. `09 previous owner had these fitted in the Sept. I`ve done about 12K since, about 4-5mm tread left. No tramlining, decent grip, near zero roadnoise. "W" rated. As said, budget tyre but ticks the boxes for me as I don`t need to leave rubber behind me to know where I`ve just come from ;D
http://www.allnewtyres.co.uk/tyre-details.asp?id=2781&Tracmax F106 225 55 16 / 2255516 99W New Car Tyres
Cheers, can't get them in 235/45/17 though :(
Ahh, thought it was for yours Mark
It is :-X :-X
Thinking Pirelli P7's :-/
Thought you were running standard CD spec wheels :question
I am on the 2.2 :)
These might be for another car thats will be mine ::)
Mig V6 perchance :question
:-X :-X :-X
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or Pirelli P Zero Rosso :-/
if you go for pirelli buy "pirelli pzero" only not the other..
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2 friends using conti premium contact,
grip not that good, comfort also avg but they last long .. :-/
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Agree about the sunnys terrible tyre. Got a set of Alphas not the dearest but a good budget tyre, told were not good in the wet but i dont drive like Shuie so they are just fine.
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Don't rate potenza 001 that highly tbh. For the wear rate I expected more grip. Sc3 superior on both criteria.
good tyre I suppose but better available.
the wear rates for potenza not that slow.. I start to think that temperature differences cause the same tire to show different characters between UK and my country :-/
Bike Tyre manufacturers allow for that, so for example, dont buy a tyre in Spain and expect it to work here in the uk. Because it just won't get warm enough to work.
Don't know but I would think car tyre makers would be similar??? :-/
Found the potenza 001 very noisy as well. Although sc3 not exactly quiet to be fair.
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Pirelli P Zero Rosso appear to be same price is Primacy HP.
Hummm, I want something quiet. Mind you anything is compared to what is on those 18" i just fitted to someone's car ::)
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or Pirelli P Zero Rosso :-/
if you go for pirelli buy "pirelli pzero" only not the other..
Weds reported tram lining issues with p zero on 235 45 18. Not heard of another report on them for omega. They seem popular on small front wheel drive cars like fiesta. No other info other than that tbh.
I would think ku31 would be ok for the Tunster? Although are there supply issues?
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I'm experimenting with Neuton NT5000 (only available from Neo Bros direct or eBay) on the rear and am quite impressed so far (for a cheapish tyre)
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
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I'm experimenting with Neuton NT5000 (only available from Neo Bros direct or eBay) on the rear and am quite impressed so far (for a cheapish tyre)
How much delivered? Much road noise?
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
Falkens are very quiet. I think that might be the trade off tyre makers play with. You can have quiet, you can have good stability, but not both.
Falkens are quiet, but wonder badly
Dunlops are noisy but have excellent stability and planted feel.
Sc3 not quite as planted as Dynlops, but not quite as noisy.
If you see what I mean :)
Might be rubbish, just an observation.
Point is you wont find a quieter tyre than a Falken. Although the language in the car more than makes up for it when trying to get the car to drive straight. ;D
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
Falkens are very quiet. I think that might be the trade off tyre makers play with. You can have quiet, you can have good stability, but not both.
Falkens are quiet, but wonder badly
Dunlops are noisy but have excellent stability and planted feel.
Sc3 not quite as planted as Dynlops, but not quite as noisy.
If you see what I mean :)
Might be rubbish, just an observation.
Point is you wont find a quieter tyre than a Falken. Although the language in the car more than makes up for it when trying to get the car to drive straight. ;D
;D ;D ;D
I understand :y
You can't have everything, amazing grip in dry & wet, limited aquaplaning & for it to be silent.
I won't be putting Falkens on, I need something more grip, but I want to limit the noise as much as possible.
Might be looking at Michelin Primacy HP, but they are a bit steep at £140 each :(
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
Falkens are very quiet. I think that might be the trade off tyre makers play with. You can have quiet, you can have good stability, but not both.
Falkens are quiet, but wonder badly
Dunlops are noisy but have excellent stability and planted feel.
Sc3 not quite as planted as Dynlops, but not quite as noisy.
If you see what I mean :)
Might be rubbish, just an observation.
Point is you wont find a quieter tyre than a Falken. Although the language in the car more than makes up for it when trying to get the car to drive straight. ;D
;D ;D ;D
I understand :y
You can't have everything, amazing grip in dry & wet, limited aquaplaning & for it to be silent.
I won't be putting Falkens on, I need something more grip, but I want to limit the noise as much as possible.
Might be looking at Michelin Primacy HP, but they are a bit steep at £140 each :(
Stable, average grip, but knowing you Tunster, you'll never ever ever need to change them unless you get a puncture. ;)
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;D ;D ;D ;D
Given my current mileage is now 1k every couple of months, rather than 1k a week, I could retire on those tyres ;D
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Hummm Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 are £107 a corner delivered on mytyres, good price, reviews seem good too :-/
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
Falkens are very quiet. I think that might be the trade off tyre makers play with. You can have quiet, you can have good stability, but not both.
Falkens are quiet, but wonder badly
Dunlops are noisy but have excellent stability and planted feel.
Sc3 not quite as planted as Dynlops, but not quite as noisy.
If you see what I mean :)
Might be rubbish, just an observation.
Point is you wont find a quieter tyre than a Falken. Although the language in the car more than makes up for it when trying to get the car to drive straight. ;D
;D ;D ;D
I understand :y
You can't have everything, amazing grip in dry & wet, limited aquaplaning & for it to be silent.
I won't be putting Falkens on, I need something more grip, but I want to limit the noise as much as possible.
Might be looking at Michelin Primacy HP, but they are a bit steep at £140 each :(
Tunnie if you can find Micheline Pilot Exalto for the size you are looking , its a very good tire..Silent and very good grip , also have top points in rating (but not sure of tire life, still using).. But I doubt they will be cheap.. I bought 15 size for nearly 17 price :-/
( as I see it has the size 235 45 17 but sure will cost an arm and a leg)
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Don't rate potenza 001 that highly tbh. For the wear rate I expected more grip. Sc3 superior on both criteria.
good tyre I suppose but better available.
the wear rates for potenza not that slow.. I start to think that temperature differences cause the same tire to show different characters between UK and my country :-/
Bike Tyre manufacturers allow for that, so for example, dont buy a tyre in Spain and expect it to work here in the uk. Because it just won't get warm enough to work.
Don't know but I would think car tyre makers would be similar??? :-/
Found the potenza 001 very noisy as well. Although sc3 not exactly quiet to be fair.
normally summer tires are claimed to work for a wide temperature range .. however , in reality thats not the case.. especially sport summer tires from my experience are designed to work hot.. and below some temperatures depending on the tire brand they dont grip well and make noise also.. bridgestone potenza series(re050, re040, r001, s001 etc) and pirelli pzero are the first examples that comes to mind.. Not sure for michelines as they are already soft even the ps2-ps3 :-/
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
I admit they are on my DTi but I don't find them noisy, got about 14K out of the rears so far and on about 3mm now, mind you, having a a turbo bolted onto the engine does mean that it's compulsary to get the tail out at every single corner. Personally I think you'd see a good 22 - 25K out of them if you drive as sedately as people on here say!
:-/
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
I admit they are on my DTi but I don't find them noisy, got about 14K out of the rears so far and on about 3mm now, mind you, having a a turbo bolted onto the engine does mean that it's compulsary to get the tail out at every single corner. Personally I think you'd see a good 22 - 25K out of them if you drive as sedately as people on here say!
:-/
I chuck it about bit, but I do mostly motorway miles, which accounts for the milage.
As long as 31's can see be sourced, they are not much more than tyres for my CD
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
Listed perhaps.. but not available :( they can get 38's
I've just had a pair of Toyo's T1 Sports fitted, not done enough mileage yet (only done 300) to really comment as the sdressing will still be present, but nothing abnormal noted yet, ride and noise levels ok ... not pushed them at all however.
Toyo's were £98 + VAT a corner
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Did I mention how much I utterly detested the Michelins I had on TBE? I think I'd rather have gayboy's Falkens - at least you know you will die, with the Michelins its the not knowing that kept my heart beating hard...
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got speedwells on my 2.6 little bit of road noise but good grip levels i find. ;)
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
Listed perhaps.. but not available :( they can get 38's
I've just had a pair of Toyo's T1 Sports fitted, not done enough mileage yet (only done 300) to really comment as the sdressing will still be present, but nothing abnormal noted yet, ride and noise levels ok ... not pushed them at all however.
Toyo's were £98 + VAT a corner
Yeah saw those too, got Toyo Proxies on the back of the 3.0 Estate, they grip well. Apparently ::) :-X ;D
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I'm experimenting with Neuton NT5000 (only available from Neo Bros direct or eBay) on the rear and am quite impressed so far (for a cheapish tyre)
How much delivered? Much road noise?
Look on eBay ;) I stopped into Neo on the way past and got them fitted ;) Noise seems acceptable to me and grip is seeming good so far, but I need to get them on the front for a better test ;)
Neo use them on their track car :-? And they are M + S Rated too :-/
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Here's my experience from a few Omegas with different tyres:
Nokian NRVi: domestic brand, should be "the best",did not last 15000 km. Good grip, also on wet, not too much noise. Very expensive, difficult to get on balance.
Hankook K105: lasted more than 25000km, quite cheap, very good grip, not too much noise
GT Radial Champiro 328: chinese, very cheap, have not noticed any difference in grip or driveability to the more expensive ones. Have sofar lasted 15000 km and seem to have enough surface for another.
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I'm experimenting with Neuton NT5000 (only available from Neo Bros direct or eBay) on the rear and am quite impressed so far (for a cheapish tyre)
How much delivered? Much road noise?
Look on eBay ;) I stopped into Neo on the way past and got them fitted ;) Noise seems acceptable to me and grip is seeming good so far, but I need to get them on the front for a better test ;)
Neo use them on their track car :-? And they are M + S Rated too :-/
I did, listed all two auctions :(
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=nt5000&_frs=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m359
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KU31's are listed on WIM's site, good price to £96 a corner. Heard they are noisy though? :-/
Listed perhaps.. but not available :( they can get 38's
I've just had a pair of Toyo's T1 Sports fitted, not done enough mileage yet (only done 300) to really comment as the sdressing will still be present, but nothing abnormal noted yet, ride and noise levels ok ... not pushed them at all however.
Toyo's were £98 + VAT a corner
Yeah saw those too, got Toyo Proxies on the back of the 3.0 Estate, they grip well. Apparently ::) :-X ;D
Got them on the back of mine as well,good grip and quiet but don't know about wear as not done many miles in it
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At your current mileage I wouldn't buy an expensive premium brand long-lasting tyre. By the time it's worn it will have cracked up due to exposure to the sun or the tread will have hardened to the point that you have expensive ditchfinders that you won't be able to wear down no matter how hard you try. ;)
Something like the KU31 would be a good bet, as has been said, or the Toyos if you can't get them. Reasonably priced and also fairly soft so they won't hang around forever.
At your current mileage the last thing you need to worry about is wear rate and you won't get value for money from anything over £100 a corner, IMHO.
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Thanks Kev :y
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I'm experimenting with Neuton NT5000 (only available from Neo Bros direct or eBay) on the rear and am quite impressed so far (for a cheapish tyre)
How much delivered? Much road noise?
Look on eBay ;) I stopped into Neo on the way past and got them fitted ;) Noise seems acceptable to me and grip is seeming good so far, but I need to get them on the front for a better test ;)
Neo use them on their track car :-? And they are M + S Rated too :-/
I did, listed all two auctions :(
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=nt5000&_frs=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m359
Search for "Neuton 235 45 17" (amend size as appropriate ;)). IIRC they're £60.22 each with very reasonable postage, then get them fitted at the place of your choice.
I haven't really had a chance to get a decent test of them yet (plus they're on the rear) but so far seem good... Generally very good and not as eager to break traction as the Accellera's I was running on the saloon :y (which I accepted as the best compromise for my requirements at the time ;))
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I tempted to get those, rang around locally, most part considerably more than WIM, but could get Nexens N6000 for £90 a corner fitted. Anyone had them before? Recall them being on an Estate project but that was not really a fair test...
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Gave them more of a test last night. Very enthusiastic drive through the twisties and held well, even pulling out of a cuople of junctions with adverse camber they held, which other tyres I've had won't do :y
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Gave them more of a test last night. Very enthusiastic drive through the twisties and held well, even pulling out of a cuople of junctions with adverse camber they held, which other tyres I've had won't do :y
That will do me then, I'll get those fitted next week :)
Cheers :y
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Tunnie, winter is coming and you are going to purchase summer tires :-?
considering there will be mostly rainy, at least go for uniroyal rain sport
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/Rainsport-2.htm
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Tunnie, winter is coming and you are going to purchase summer tires :-?
at least go for uniroyal rain sport
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/Rainsport-2.htm
Yep, it's summer all year round* here, Cem. :y
* - apart from one week
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Tunnie, winter is coming and you are going to purchase summer tires :-?
at least go for uniroyal rain sport
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/Rainsport-2.htm
Yep, it's summer all year round* here, Cem. :y
* - apart from one week
rainy summer ;D
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Tunnie, winter is coming and you are going to purchase summer tires :-?
at least go for uniroyal rain sport
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/Rainsport-2.htm
Yep, it's summer all year round* here, Cem. :y
* - apart from one week
rainy summer ;D
Is there any other kind of summer? :-?
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Tunnie, winter is coming and you are going to purchase summer tires :-?
considering there will be mostly rainy, at least go for uniroyal rain sport
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/Rainsport-2.htm
The reviews come out ok :-/
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Nexen/N6000.htm
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Tunnie, winter is coming and you are going to purchase summer tires :-?
considering there will be mostly rainy, at least go for uniroyal rain sport
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/Rainsport-2.htm
The reviews come out ok :-/
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Nexen/N6000.htm
uniroyal rainsport have very good degrees in tests, dont know the price but I would personally go for it if I live in UK
ps: you can easily see its not the same class tire :-/
also thread design will save you in most conditons under snow so you can move , but unfortunately no brakes.. (similiar to good year model)
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we only get snow, in reality for 1 week a year at most, so not massive concern. I'd get propper snow tyres for that.
Two minds at moment, cheap Nexens, or say sod it and go down WIM for some Toyo Proxies :)
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we only get snow, in reality for 1 week a year at most, so not massive concern. I'd get propper snow tyres for that.
Two minds at moment, cheap Nexens, or say sod it and go down WIM for some Toyo Proxies :)
Uniroyals are better than toyo in rainy conditions but if you will decide between 2 no doubt I would buy Toyo.. but be careful in wet..
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I had me nexen cp641 on tractor. Ok for budget tyre, worked ok-ish in snow, appalling in very, very, very wet weather (not helped by chipped tractor's power delivery). Only me en 6000 I've ever owned is currently in you garage
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Tunnie, winter is coming and you are going to purchase summer tires :-?
at least go for uniroyal rain sport
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/Rainsport-2.htm
Yep, it's summer all year round* here, Cem. :y
* - apart from one week
rainy summer ;D
Is there any other kind of summer? :-?
yep..ours.. hot & dry ;D
ps: its been more than 3 months even a small drop didnt fall
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Any thoughts on
Kumho KU31 - well documented but not readily available
vs
Kumho KU39 - available but can't find much about them on an Omega
:question
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Any thoughts on
Kumho KU31 - well documented but not readily available
vs
Kumho KU39 - available but can't find much about them on an Omega
:question
havent seen any tests on it but no reason for it to be worse than KU31..
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I guess I ask because they look stoatally different:
Ecsta SPT KU31 ECSTA LE Sport KU39
(http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/tyre_images/ku31.gif) (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/tyre_images/KU39-ECSTA-LE-SP.jpg)
and have different descriptions, as if the KU31 (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/selector.php?tyre_id=15) is more sport oriented and the KU39 (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/selector.php?tyre_id=45) is general purpose.
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This is for you Chrisgixer ;D [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif]
"Having 400bhp in a FWD car is not much fun when you can't get it onto the road, this I experienced with my last set of tyres Conti sport contact 3's.... Dry grip was good but I didn't rate them in the wet!
Have had the kumho's on for just over 4k and I'm impressed! Don't get me wrong tho.... In the wet I still can't give it full beans but I don't think there is a tyre out there's which could do this!!
Dry grip is brilliant and handling in the wet has really improved!! "
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Kumho/Ecsta-KU39.htm
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I guess I ask because they look stoatally different:
Ecsta SPT KU31 ECSTA LE Sport KU39
(http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/tyre_images/ku31.gif) (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/tyre_images/KU39-ECSTA-LE-SP.jpg)
and have different descriptions, as if the KU31 (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/selector.php?tyre_id=15) is more sport oriented and the KU39 (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/selector.php?tyre_id=45) is general purpose.
seems KU39 worth trying ::)
http://www.easier.com/90326-kumhos-ecsta-ku39-tyre-test.html
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2010 EVO Tyre Test
Tyres on test:
- Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
- Continental Contisportcontact 3
- Hankook Ventus V12 EVO
- Kumho Ecsta LE Sport KU39
- Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2
- Uniroyal Rainsport 2
- Vredstein Ultrac Cento
- Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
- Zeetex HP103
Wet Braking
1. Continental Contisportcontact 3
2. Bridgestone RE050A
3. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
4. Michelin Pilot Exalto
5. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
6. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
7. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
8. Kumho Ecsta KU39
9. Zeetex HP103
Dry Braking
1. Continental Contisportcontact 3
2. Bridgestone RE050A
3. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
4. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
5. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
6. Michelin Pilot Exalto
7. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
8. Kumho Ecsta KU39
9. Zeetex HP103
Laptimes (dry)
1. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
2. Bridgestone RE050A
3. Continental Contisportcontact 3
4. Michelin Pilot Exalto
5. Kumho Ecsta KU39
6. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
7. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
8. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
9. Zeetex HP103
Subjective (dry)
1. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
2. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
3. Bridgestone RE050A
4. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
5. Continental Contisportcontact 3
6. Michelin Pilot Exalto
7. Kumho Ecsta KU39
8. Zeetex HP103
9. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
Lap time (wet)
1. Continental Contisportcontact 3
2. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
3. Michelin Pilot Exalto
4. Bridgestone RE050A
5. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
6. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
7. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
8. Kumho Ecsta KU39
9. Zeetex HP103
Lateral G (wet)
1. Continental Contisportcontact 3
2. Michelin Pilot Exalto
3. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
3 = Bridgestone RE050A
5. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
5= Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
7. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
8. Kumho Ecsta KU39
9. Zeetex HP103
Subjective (wet)
1. Continental Contisportcontact 3
2. Michelin Pilot Exalto
3. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
4. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
5. Bridgestone RE050A
6. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
7. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
8. Kumho Ecsta KU39
9. Zeetex HP103
Aquaplanning Test (straight)
1=Uniroyal Rainsport 2
1=Vredstein Ultrac Cento
3. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
4. Continental Contisportcontact 3
5. Michelin Pilot Exalto
6. Bridgestone RE050A
7. Kumho Ecsta KU39
8. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
9. Zeetex HP103
Aquaplanning Test (curved)
1. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
2. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
3. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
4. Kumho Ecsta KU39
5. Continental Contisportcontact 3
6. Zeetex HP103
7. Michelin Pilot Exalto
8. Bridgestone RE050A
9. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
Overall
1. Continental Contisportcontact 3
2. Uniroyal Rainsport 2
3. Vredstein Ultrac Cento
4. Bridgestone RE050A
5. Michelin Pilot Exalto
6. Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
7. Kumho Ecsta KU39
8. Hankook Ventus K12 EVO
9. Zeetex HP103
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I guess I ask because they look stoatally different:
Ecsta SPT KU31 ECSTA LE Sport KU39
(http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/tyre_images/ku31.gif) (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/tyre_images/KU39-ECSTA-LE-SP.jpg)
and have different descriptions, as if the KU31 (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/selector.php?tyre_id=15) is more sport oriented and the KU39 (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/selector.php?tyre_id=45) is general purpose.
seems KU39 worth trying ::)
http://www.easier.com/90326-kumhos-ecsta-ku39-tyre-test.html
Straight away I question that review, as they say Michelin PS3 are miles ahead. Michelin do not make a usable tyre for anyone, so There is clearly something amiss in the teating
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Teating? rather gayphone. Testing!
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Teating? rather gayphone. Testing!
;D ;D :y
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I guess I ask because they look stoatally different:
Ecsta SPT KU31 ECSTA LE Sport KU39
(http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/tyre_images/ku31.gif) (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/tyre_images/KU39-ECSTA-LE-SP.jpg)
and have different descriptions, as if the KU31 (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/selector.php?tyre_id=15) is more sport oriented and the KU39 (http://www.kumhotyre.co.uk/selector.php?tyre_id=45) is general purpose.
seems KU39 worth trying ::)
http://www.easier.com/90326-kumhos-ecsta-ku39-tyre-test.html
Straight away I question that review, as they say Michelin PS3 are miles ahead. Michelin do not make a usable tyre for anyone, so There is clearly something amiss in the teating
although I'm against michelines for so many reasons , I had to buy pilot exaltos last year as they were the most new (although prices were silly high) to my surprise they are really good both in wet and dry.. and tests approve me or I approve them ;D :P
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I'd rather have linglong ditchfinders than anything Michelin currently make.
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Problem with most of these "rating" sites IMHO .... they don't take into account "real world" diversity ....
A certain tyre on a lightweight, front wheel drive hot hatch might be great .. but stick it on a heavy rearwheel drive limo and it behaves completely differently. Falkens get great writeups all over the place .. but don't seem to work oo the Omega.
Every driver drives differently and expects different things. These ratings sites give no indication who did the test ... Emerson Fitipaldi or Miss Daisy ... the opinions of those two will be extremely diferent ....
Which is why I looked for the experiences of folks on here .. who have put tyres on an Omega and driven them for a decent time interval .. if enough folk agree that the tyre doesn't work .. then you are getting a "spread" of RELEVANT info ...
Sorry Cem but what is written on an Evo site is, IMHO, totally irrelevant to an Omega. Weight, Power delivery, aerodynamic assistance ... all make the cars too different to compare.. :(
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Problem with most of these "rating" sites IMHO .... they don't take into account "real world" diversity ....
A certain tyre on a lightweight, front wheel drive hot hatch might be great .. but stick it on a heavy rearwheel drive limo and it behaves completely differently. Falkens get great writeups all over the place .. but don't seem to work oo the Omega.
Every driver drives differently and expects different things. These ratings sites give no indication who did the test ... Emerson Fitipaldi or Miss Daisy ... the opinions of those two will be extremely diferent ....
Which is why I looked for the experiences of folks on here .. who have put tyres on an Omega and driven them for a decent time interval .. if enough folk agree that the tyre doesn't work .. then you are getting a "spread" of RELEVANT info ...
Sorry Cem but what is written on an Evo site is, IMHO, totally irrelevant to an Omega. Weight, Power delivery, aerodynamic assistance ... all make the cars too different to compare.. :(
agreed.. except one point, their behaviours for braking on both wet and dry conditions(also lateral G) (especially tire order on tests) wont change as its mainly dependant on weight..
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however their comfort level may change, also tramlining as its dependant on front setup..
but up to now from my experience, they didnt behave very different then their test results..
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Problem with most of these "rating" sites IMHO .... they don't take into account "real world" diversity ....
A certain tyre on a lightweight, front wheel drive hot hatch might be great .. but stick it on a heavy rearwheel drive limo and it behaves completely differently. Falkens get great writeups all over the place .. but don't seem to work oo the Omega.
Every driver drives differently and expects different things. These ratings sites give no indication who did the test ... Emerson Fitipaldi or Miss Daisy ... the opinions of those two will be extremely diferent ....
Which is why I looked for the experiences of folks on here .. who have put tyres on an Omega and driven them for a decent time interval .. if enough folk agree that the tyre doesn't work .. then you are getting a "spread" of RELEVANT info ...
Sorry Cem but what is written on an Evo site is, IMHO, totally irrelevant to an Omega. Weight, Power delivery, aerodynamic assistance ... all make the cars too different to compare.. :(
agreed.. except one point, their behaviours for braking on both wet and dry conditions(also lateral G) (especially tire order on tests) wont change as its mainly dependant on weight..
Not necessarily - gayboy's Falkens, for example, had very poor braking due to no stability. Yet they get reasonable braking capability marks on many review sites.
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Problem with most of these "rating" sites IMHO .... they don't take into account "real world" diversity ....
A certain tyre on a lightweight, front wheel drive hot hatch might be great .. but stick it on a heavy rearwheel drive limo and it behaves completely differently. Falkens get great writeups all over the place .. but don't seem to work oo the Omega.
Every driver drives differently and expects different things. These ratings sites give no indication who did the test ... Emerson Fitipaldi or Miss Daisy ... the opinions of those two will be extremely diferent ....
Which is why I looked for the experiences of folks on here .. who have put tyres on an Omega and driven them for a decent time interval .. if enough folk agree that the tyre doesn't work .. then you are getting a "spread" of RELEVANT info ...
Sorry Cem but what is written on an Evo site is, IMHO, totally irrelevant to an Omega. Weight, Power delivery, aerodynamic assistance ... all make the cars too different to compare.. :(
agreed.. except one point, their behaviours for braking on both wet and dry conditions(also lateral G) (especially tire order on tests) wont change as its mainly dependant on weight..
Not necessarily - gayboy's Falkens, for example, had very poor braking due to no stability. Yet they get reasonable braking capability marks on many review sites.
imo falkens are an exception never see big deviations on good brands.. :-/
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Problem with most of these "rating" sites IMHO .... they don't take into account "real world" diversity ....
A certain tyre on a lightweight, front wheel drive hot hatch might be great .. but stick it on a heavy rearwheel drive limo and it behaves completely differently. Falkens get great writeups all over the place .. but don't seem to work oo the Omega.
Every driver drives differently and expects different things. These ratings sites give no indication who did the test ... Emerson Fitipaldi or Miss Daisy ... the opinions of those two will be extremely diferent ....
Which is why I looked for the experiences of folks on here .. who have put tyres on an Omega and driven them for a decent time interval .. if enough folk agree that the tyre doesn't work .. then you are getting a "spread" of RELEVANT info ...
Sorry Cem but what is written on an Evo site is, IMHO, totally irrelevant to an Omega. Weight, Power delivery, aerodynamic assistance ... all make the cars too different to compare.. :(
agreed.. except one point, their behaviours for braking on both wet and dry conditions(also lateral G) (especially tire order on tests) wont change as its mainly dependant on weight..
Not necessarily - gayboy's Falkens, for example, had very poor braking due to no stability. Yet they get reasonable braking capability marks on many review sites.
imo falkens are an exception never see big deviations on good brands.. :-/
OK, I can say from bitter experience that Michelin Primacy, Michelin PS2 and Michelin PS3 are hopeless on the Omega. Yet again seem to get good reviews :-/
Mind you, can't say I've ever enjoyed Michelin on any car in the last 10 years...
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Iv'e got Michelin primacy's on the elite estate as fitted by the Met police just before they sold the car, £600 for 4 thank you very much, i have done about 4-5k on them and find they are very good. :y
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Iv'e got Michelin primacy's on the elite estate as fitted by the Met police just before they sold the car, £600 for 4 thank you very much, i have done about 4-5k on them and find they are very good. :y
Thats the point Entwood was making - if you wrote a review, it would be positive. If I wrote the review, it would be scathing ;)
Same tyre, same car, different results.
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I can see that, but as they were on the estate when i got it from Josh and i did not have to pay for them i would say they were good as long as the car does not slide in the wet and is good on stoping i'm happy, as for how long they last you get your money back as i think they last about 30k but i don't always drive with my foot to metal ;D ;D ;D
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Iv'e got Michelin primacy's on the elite estate as fitted by the Met police just before they sold the car, £600 for 4 thank you very much, i have done about 4-5k on them and find they are very good. :y
Thats the point Entwood was making - if you wrote a review, it would be positive. If I wrote the review, it would be scathing ;)
Same tyre, same car, different results.
Type of driver is the the third but most important factor above all else.
And is the first thing we need to know when recommending or buying tyres, but is almost always the last thing to be divulged.
Buying a tyre with a performance level that matches the drivers expectations is vital.
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Iv'e got Michelin primacy's on the elite estate as fitted by the Met police just before they sold the car, £600 for 4 thank you very much, i have done about 4-5k on them and find they are very good. :y
Thats the point Entwood was making - if you wrote a review, it would be positive. If I wrote the review, it would be scathing ;)
Same tyre, same car, different results.
Type of driver is the the third but most important factor above all else.
And is the first thing we need to know when recommending or buying tyres, but is almost always the last thing to be divulged.
Buying a tyre with a performance level that matches the drivers expectations and abilities is vital.
Amended that for you ........ :)
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So Nige what are you or have you put on the front of the 3.2 as when Daz did the wishbones they did not have much life in them. :-/
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So Nige what are you or have you put on the front of the 3.2 as when Daz did the wishbones they did not have much life in them. :-/
Not just the wishbones, but steering idler and a wheel bearing changed due to Newent !!
The Falkens 452's off the rear are now on the front, and a new pair of Toyo T1 Sports are on the back. Kuhmo 31's not being available. WIM also did a full geometry. .. :)
Toyo's were £98.33 + VAT a corner, so far .. 300 miles .. they seem OK but not pushed them at all yet as the finisher will still be present on the rubber. I was always told 500 miles before the tyre is "clean and settled"
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Toyo's were £98.33 + VAT a corner, so far .. 300 miles .. they seem OK but not pushed them at all yet as the finisher will still be present on the rubber. I was always told 500 miles before the tyre is "clean and settled"
And Toyo's have always seemed worse than most for that - but by 500 miles or so they've usually settled (I've had a couple of sets on the MR2 - soft sidewalls but very progressive when they let go, excellent in wet & dry and alright in snow).
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Did the idler, nearside drop link and wishbone today offside in the morning (with poly bushes), also got a set of new disc;s and pads here but the old ones don't look that old, off to WIM as soon as i can.