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[Mr Skrunts]

Am I right in thinking 10W 40 oil
Semi systethic?
But I am not sure of the capacity  2.2 2003 Saloon

[Mr Skrunts]

Seem to remember maybe 5.5 to 5.6 litres

Just looking at Halfprds/ECP see whats on offer.

[dave the builder]

4.5 L for the petrol Z22XE
5.5 L for the Dirty diesel 2.2 Y22DTH
says Google 

[Mr Skrunts]

All I can find at my local parts dealer is this brand and I have never heard of it.

Bremen Autotechnik Semi Synthetic Engine Oil 10W 40 5 Litre Bottle
£33.50
£27.92 ex VAT

Bremen Autotechnik Semi Synthetic Engine Oil 10W 40 1 Litre Bottle
£9.25
£7.71 ex VAT

[Mr Skrunts]

4.5 L for the petrol Z22XE
5.5 L for the Dirty diesel 2.2 Y22DTH
says Google 

 

https://www.car.info/en-se/opel/omega/b2-22-m5-6665710/specs

[Doctor Gollum]

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-and-fluids/engine-oil/mobil-super-2000-x1-10w%2F40-oil-5l-929596.html

May as well buy something you've heard of for the same money.

[Mr Skrunts]

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-and-fluids/engine-oil/mobil-super-2000-x1-10w%2F40-oil-5l-929596.html

May as well buy something you've heard of for the same money.

Saw it on ECP but only 1L sixe for £7.19

[Mr Skrunts]

Halfords dont miss a trick


Your MOT expires in
4 days!
Book Now

This may not be suitable for your vehicle
To find the one that is click here  (This is regards the oil)

[Mr Skrunts]

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/sump-plug-333720031  £3.79 sump plug and seal

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/car-parts/engine-parts/sump-plug-and-sump-pan/?isVrnSearch=true

Ridiculous price for an O ring


GUIDEPRO Sump Plug Seal
33377121000058  Halfords - Think the site requires reg number   £5.15

[Doctor Gollum]

Halfords dont miss a trick


Your MOT expires in
4 days!
Book Now

This may not be suitable for your vehicle
To find the one that is click here  (This is regards the oil)

They label each bottle for different things even if it is the same grade. The Mobil 10w40 will be perfectly fine.

Sump washer should be readily available from VX for less than a tenner with the filter included.

VX used to be the cheapest place to buy service parts. Don't presume your local factors are the cheapest place, or that the dealership parts are always the most expensive.

And it might be possible that this is still the case, especially for the Desmond. You should be able to do an oil change for sub £40 using genuine* parts, plugs air and pollen filter should be lnotably ess than £100.

* Genuine being actual VX branded parts rather than some unknown 'OE' brand that will change according to the last sales rep that came in. They are rarely the same thing and usually cost more than going to the dealer.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404456052246 for example...

[Doctor Gollum]

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/sump-plug-333720031  £3.79 sump plug and seal

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/car-parts/engine-parts/sump-plug-and-sump-pan/?isVrnSearch=true

Ridiculous price for an O ring


GUIDEPRO Sump Plug Seal
33377121000058  Halfords - Think the site requires reg number   £5.15

I wouldn't buy a sump plug washer from either of those places.

[VXL V6]

Surely the 2.2 doesn't have a sump plug washer? Most VX's have a sump plug with a bonded in O ring

[Mr Skrunts]

Surely the 2.2 doesn't have a sump plug washer? Most VX's have a sump plug with a bonded in O ring

Thats looks like the ECP item then

[Mr Skrunts]

Didnt realise VX Oil filters were costing that much these days, I used to have a trade club card and thinking back am sure I saw filters at £1.59 or £1.89

Is the trade clun card still available.?

[Mr Skrunts]

Talking parts and owning 3 Omegas, I have bought parts when I have seen a bargain.

I have a pair of rear springs
Full sets of disks/pads/shoes + pins/tension springs and sensors.

Oil/air/pollen filters

Dip/main beam Night breakers or what ever they are called.

I have a gates timing kit for the Elite

Only thing I need to get at the mo are some spark plugs and a timeing kit for the 2.2 (and a water pump + fan belt) for when its serviced.

[johnnydog]

Don't forget that all 10w/40 semi synthetic oils are not the same - the API S* primarily for petrol engines ratings varies between oils of the same viscosity. Engine oil for diesel engines has C** rating. Gear oil has GL ratings.
I would use oil in the Omega of the same API S* category / rating as GM's own 10w/40, which is SL from memory.

[Doctor Gollum]

Surely the 2.2 doesn't have a sump plug washer? Most VX's have a sump plug with a bonded in O ring

Sure it's available separately.

Didnt realise VX Oil filters were costing that much these days, I used to have a trade club card and thinking back am sure I saw filters at £1.59 or £1.89

Is the trade clun card still available.?

Have you actually asked your local Vauxhall dealer?

[Doctor Gollum]

Surely the 2.2 doesn't have a sump plug washer? Most VX's have a sump plug with a bonded in O ring

Sure it's available separately.

Didnt realise VX Oil filters were costing that much these days, I used to have a trade club card and thinking back am sure I saw filters at £1.59 or £1.89

Is the trade clun card still available.?

Have you actually asked your local Vauxhall dealer?

Although if you have the filters in stock, why the question 

[Mr Skrunts]

Surely the 2.2 doesn't have a sump plug washer? Most VX's have a sump plug with a bonded in O ring

Sure it's available separately.

Didnt realise VX Oil filters were costing that much these days, I used to have a trade club card and thinking back am sure I saw filters at £1.59 or £1.89

Is the trade clun card still available.?

Have you actually asked your local Vauxhall dealer?

Although if you have the filters in stock, why the question 

I bought mine from ECP so they are not VX

[dave the builder]

API SN/SM/CF (ACEA A3/B4) so exceeds API SL specs clicky

clicky 20L Mannol Classic 10W40 Engine Oil Semi-Synthetic £41.39 with Delivery (FedEx Next Day)

4 x 5 L bottles from HalFRAUDS would cost £127.96 

so the Mannol is a third the price and includes delivery to your door 

[dave the builder]

specs for GM Vauxhall 10W-40 Semi Synthetic Engine Oil

Manufactured By General Motors
Specifications.ACEA A3/B4. API SL/CF
Grade. 10W/40 Semi Synthetic

Genuine Vauxhall Engine Oil.
Part Numbers: 95599582, 1942070

[Mr Skrunts]

https://www.arnoldclarkautoparts.com/products/gm-vauxhall-10w-40-semi-synthetic-engine-oil-5l-95599582

https://www.autovaux.co.uk/95599582-5-litre-semi-synthetic-10w40-oil-gm95599582

Both out of stock - I can see why at those prices

[dave the builder]

https://www.arnoldclarkautoparts.com/products/gm-vauxhall-10w-40-semi-synthetic-engine-oil-5l-95599582

https://www.autovaux.co.uk/95599582-5-litre-semi-synthetic-10w40-oil-gm95599582

Both out of stock - I can see why at those prices

 Double the price of the oil in my link  and they don't have any anyway ,and are unlikely too ever again  

2020 i was paying £25 for 20L

though £42 for 20 L isn't bad compared to some "shops" 

[countrywoman]

If ECP filters are there own brand Crossland ones bin them! they are cheap and nasty.

[biggriffin]

https://www.smithandallan.com/product/smith-allan-momentum-ss-10w-40-engine-oil-4141

[STEMO]

An oil thread....been a while..

[dave the builder]

An oil thread....been a while..

As long as it stays on topic 
and mentions "winter tyres " 

[Mr Skrunts]

When I went for my MOT I asked how much to do an oil change.  A conversation started about the cost of oils.  His and his wifes cars are both Mercs and he used to pay £30 a gallon for the oil he uses (Synthetic) same oil he is now paying £57 a gallon.

He suggested I get my own oil and filter, bring the car in and he would sort it for £30 (cash) .

[biggriffin]

An oil thread....been a while..

As long as it stays on topic 
and mentions "winter tyres " 

Now you can't beat a "winter tyres" thread,,,, but but a good ol' "white goods thread might trump it.

[Mr Skrunts]

Cant think of his name but not seen the "Tyre Guro" post for quite a while.

Hope he is OK.

[Mr Skrunts]

Think his name was CEM but cant find him in the members list.

[Nick W]

When I went for my MOT I asked how much to do an oil change.  A conversation started about the cost of oils.  His and his wifes cars are both Mercs and he used to pay £30 a gallon for the oil he uses (Synthetic) same oil he is now paying £57 a gallon.

He suggested I get my own oil and filter, bring the car in and he would sort it for £30 (cash) .

£30 for an oil change where you supply the bits? WTF is the car, some sort of bastard Audi/Mercedes/Citroen/Alfa/Lotus combination?

[STEMO]

When I went for my MOT I asked how much to do an oil change.  A conversation started about the cost of oils.  His and his wifes cars are both Mercs and he used to pay £30 a gallon for the oil he uses (Synthetic) same oil he is now paying £57 a gallon.

He suggested I get my own oil and filter, bring the car in and he would sort it for £30 (cash) .

£30 for an oil change where you supply the bits? WTF is the car, some sort of bastard Audi/Mercedes/Citroen/Alfa/Lotus combination?

I think that's very reasonable.

[dave the builder]

IF they change it at all
they might just wipe the filter and sump plug with an oily rag ,pocket the £30 and keep the oil & filter
If you time it right and do it yourself , you can be lying in a nice cold puddle or even snow  #globalwarming

[Mr Skrunts]

When I went for my MOT I asked how much to do an oil change.  A conversation started about the cost of oils.  His and his wifes cars are both Mercs and he used to pay £30 a gallon for the oil he uses (Synthetic) same oil he is now paying £57 a gallon.

He suggested I get my own oil and filter, bring the car in and he would sort it for £30 (cash) .

£30 for an oil change where you supply the bits? WTF is the car, some sort of bastard Audi/Mercedes/Citroen/Alfa/Lotus combination?

Car is my little 2.2 but I suppose he has worked out the time its left sat dripping oil on the ramp.

Had I have been smart and took the parts with me it may have cost a lot less whilst on the ramp having an MOT

[STEMO]

I would say that even the most reasonable indie garage charges about £75-£90 an hour for labour. £30 is eff all to spend at a garage nowadays. Unless you're as poor as a church mouse, as tight as Opti or a masochist.

[ronnyd]

I would say that even the most reasonable indie garage charges about £75-£90 an hour for labour. £30 is eff all to spend at a garage nowadays. Unless you're as poor as a church mouse, as tight as Opti or a masochist.

The guy who does mine, he's been doing it for years, charges £60 p/h. Think that's very reasonable. Perhaps he's charging me 'mates rates' without me realising it.  He's been great, hope he sees me out until i pack up driving.

[BazaJT]

Didn't CEM chuck his toys out of the pram and bail out some years ago?

[Mr Skrunts]

Cant remember, theres quite a few that suddenly went quite.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

All I can find at my local parts dealer is this brand and I have never heard of it.

Bremen Autotechnik Semi Synthetic Engine Oil 10W 40 5 Litre Bottle
£33.50
£27.92 ex VAT

Bremen Autotechnik Semi Synthetic Engine Oil 10W 40 1 Litre Bottle
£9.25
£7.71 ex VAT

A couple of years ago ECP where selling 5 litres of Shell 5/30 for £10 each with free delivery. I bought two.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I would say that even the most reasonable indie garage charges about £75-£90 an hour for labour. £30 is eff all to spend at a garage nowadays. Unless you're as poor as a church mouse, as tight as Opti or a masochist.

I took my own Shell oil and filter and was charged 30 minutes of labour to do the oil and filter change.

Labour was £50P/H plus VAT.

[STEMO]

I would say that even the most reasonable indie garage charges about £75-£90 an hour for labour. £30 is eff all to spend at a garage nowadays. Unless you're as poor as a church mouse, as tight as Opti or a masochist.

I took my own Shell oil and filter and was charged 30 minutes of labour to do the oil and filter change.

Labour was £50P/H plus VAT.

So £30.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I would say that even the most reasonable indie garage charges about £75-£90 an hour for labour. £30 is eff all to spend at a garage nowadays. Unless you're as poor as a church mouse, as tight as Opti or a masochist.

I took my own Shell oil and filter and was charged 30 minutes of labour to do the oil and filter change.

Labour was £50P/H plus VAT.

So £30.

Precisely so.

£30 for the labour

Roughly £12 for 6 litres of oil

£6 for the paper filter from Ebay (supposedly genuine Vauxhall)

I'm happy enough with that.

[biggriffin]

From the link I posted, you could just buy 20L of 5/30 dexos2 and use that on all your vehicle's.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Didn't CEM chuck his toys out of the pram and bail out some years ago?

Yep.

[Jim82]

Last year I managed to get genuine GM oil from Autodoc for about £20. Its £32 today, but they often have promotions where the price drops by up to 40%:

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/opel-gm/14429902

[Doctor Gollum]

Are you on medication?

This example is relatively expensive at just over £6...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125276543362

Autodoc could run an 75% off sale and still make money on those 

[STEMO]

Hmmmm.....one link for oil, another for oil filters.

[Doctor Gollum]

Hmmmm.....one link for oil, another for oil filters.

Oh yeah. Oops

[Doctor Gollum]

https://www.longlife100.de/nl/p/motorolie-originele-gm-10w-40-5-liter-van-opel?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAjfyqBhAsEiwA-UdzJAsDoA4WkfWVEmlB5KrPTik4HNodCzTgtsB2XM_uGJ5JEc_eDl0QixoC8eEQAvD_BwE
Not unreasonable... at €18. And before anyone says what about shipping, it's €10 for up to 25 litres. So if you buy 5 bottles that's €2 per bottle, which is negligible.

Being able to click on adverts and apps has made people lazy. Both of those items took a whole 30 seconds to research. Whilst having lunch.

[TheBoy]

https://www.longlife100.de/nl/p/motorolie-originele-gm-10w-40-5-liter-van-opel?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAjfyqBhAsEiwA-UdzJAsDoA4WkfWVEmlB5KrPTik4HNodCzTgtsB2XM_uGJ5JEc_eDl0QixoC8eEQAvD_BwE
Not unreasonable... at €18. And before anyone says what about shipping, it's €10 for up to 25 litres. So if you buy 5 bottles that's €2 per bottle, which is negligible.

Being able to click on adverts and apps has made people lazy. Both of those items took a whole 30 seconds to research. Whilst having lunch.

Do that company handle the VAT for you, else you'll have to pay that when you import it, which your courier will happily do for an inflated fee.

Remember, not being able to import freely from Europe is what we wanted

[Doctor Gollum]

Even then it's still cheaper than Autodoc. And whether you get stuck with the VAT or not is chance anyway. But for the sake of argument, buy five bottles and it's €24 per bottle delivered. And five bottles will do 4 V6 services. Add in the filters at £5 each and you can still do an oil change for less than Autodoc will sell you not enough oil for...

Not that £32 is particularly expensive to begin with

What's the cash over the counter best price from a Vauxhall dealer?

[VXL V6]

Not checked in on this thread recently but after four pages (which I haven't read) has the OP done / got someone to do and Oil and Filter change yet? 

[dave the builder]

Not checked in on this thread recently but after four pages (which I haven't read) has the OP done / got someone to do and Oil and Filter change yet? 

This is why Vauxhall Opel made the service interval 10,000 miles or one year 
so the Owner can debate the choices of oil, suppliers etc 

[Jim82]

Even then it's still cheaper than Autodoc. And whether you get stuck with the VAT or not is chance anyway. But for the sake of argument, buy five bottles and it's €24 per bottle delivered. And five bottles will do 4 V6 services. Add in the filters at £5 each and you can still do an oil change for less than Autodoc will sell you not enough oil for...

Not that £32 is particularly expensive to begin with

What's the cash over the counter best price from a Vauxhall dealer?

The point I was trying to make was that at the time I needed to buy oil Autodoc had it for £21 for 5l, which was cheaper than I could find it anywhere else.  I was buying some other parts from them at the same time so didn't have to worry about the postage.  I agree at £32 this week it's probably not competitive, but just wanted to mention it as it's genuine GM oil which in another post on here I was advised was the best for our beloved motors..

[Doctor Gollum]

It is if only to help minimise the build up in the breathers.