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Misfire/EML light
« on: 27 January 2021, 15:24:30 »

KW02 is unwell again - starts and runs but it has a misfire and now a steady orange EML.

Months (and barely any miles) after new cam sensor, service, MoT and cambelt this isn't ideal.

I'll try a pedal test, but research on here makes me think coil pack? Cam gaskets were replaced around 2010 but at 51k miles now, lack of use probably won't have helped.

Or am I missing something basic?
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #1 on: 27 January 2021, 15:35:02 »

Coil pack, plugs, oil in plug holes.
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #2 on: 27 January 2021, 15:41:48 »

Those were my first ideas too - coil packs have never been changed.

It doesn't help I've knackered my back doing stupid DIY.
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #3 on: 27 January 2021, 16:08:07 »

Pedal trick and report back  ;)

Probably cat codes if it hasn't been driven properly  ;)
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #4 on: 27 January 2021, 16:12:51 »

The good news is that reading the fault codes on a 2.6/3/.2 V6 will tell you which bank has failed. Cylinders 1,3,5 are offside and 2,4,6 are on the nearside.

Also good news is that each bank on the 2.6/3.2 V6 has it's own dedicated electronic ignition unit and they will be a lot easier on your bad back to change than the single coil pack on the 2.5/3.0 V6 which incidentally doesn't throw any specific fault codes.

Look for oil and/or water in the spark plug wells. If found then fix the cam cover seals and/or scuttle leak first. Before you condemn the ignition units.
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #5 on: 27 January 2021, 16:50:25 »

Pedal test -

P1612 Immobiliser No Or Wrong Signal Immobiliser (I used the spare key today)

Then it cycles between

P0300 Random/multiple cylinder misfire detected
P0302 Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected


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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #6 on: 27 January 2021, 17:03:10 »

Pedal test -

P1612 Immobiliser No Or Wrong Signal Immobiliser (I used the spare key today)

Then it cycles between

P0300 Random/multiple cylinder misfire detected
P0302 Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected


That means you start with the spark plug for #2 cylinder(but check 4&6 as well) and then inspect the coil pack.


You're looking for damage that could have been caused by oil or water sitting in the plug wells. Water will be a leaking scuttle, so fix that, and oil is down to failed cam-cover gaskets.


Those are the most likely causes of a misfire, but do be aware that it could be wiring to the coil pack/fuel injector or the injector itself.


I would suggest it's not worth doing just one side.
« Last Edit: 27 January 2021, 17:04:57 by Nick W »
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #7 on: 27 January 2021, 17:09:41 »

Thanks - I'll take a look. Probably tomorrow, as apparently 'we' should be making dinner.

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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #8 on: 27 January 2021, 23:09:40 »

Have I got the layout right -

Windscreen end
5 - 6
3 - 4
1 - 2
Radiator end

Fault is at cylinder 2, therefore 2-4-6 coil pack (9118115)?
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #9 on: 27 January 2021, 23:17:21 »

That's it :y

Don’t just presume that it's the coil pack though.  ;)
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #10 on: 27 January 2021, 23:24:45 »

Goodo

New spark-plugs fitted last October so I suppose it's possible something not put back right, although garage is generally reliable.
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #11 on: 27 January 2021, 23:45:20 »

Plug 6 is generally the one that gets missed ::)

A toasted bannock says that the sponge on the firewall is completely soaked and dripping onto the coil pack plug...
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #12 on: 28 January 2021, 22:04:59 »

Plug 6 is generally the one that gets missed ::)

A toasted bannock says that the sponge on the firewall is completely soaked and dripping onto the coil pack plug...

My 3.2 had a misfire this evening. It's been pissingbrain for days. . No engine management light, but when I put the code reader misfire on cylinder 6.
It was okay later, after 5 miles of running, but i reckon it's water on the coil pack or the plug hole full of oily mayo.
When it stops raining I shall investigate.
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #13 on: 29 January 2021, 10:13:04 »

Have I got the layout right -

Windscreen end
5 - 6
3 - 4
1 - 2
Radiator end

Fault is at cylinder 2, therefore 2-4-6 coil pack (9118115)?


Most engines are numbered from the crank pulley end. Renault have a nasty habit of randomly numbering some of theirs from the flywheel. There's a simple way to avoid this being a problem: don't work(or own) Renaults!
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Re: Misfire/EML light
« Reply #14 on: 29 January 2021, 10:19:04 »

Fault
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