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[Varche]

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[Entwood]

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linky no worky ..

[dad1uk]

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linky no worky ..

Works for me Nige.....

[Lizzie_Zoom]

This is how it used to be done; very slowly, but it did famously involve 74 warships of the German High Seas Fleet scuppered in Scapa Flow.

http://www.naval-history.net/WW1z12aCox.htm

However some are still laying on the bottom 95 years later!

http://www.scapaflowwrecks.com/


 

[Marks DTM Calib]

What you all need to be aware of is that cruise ships are the cheapest of the cheap things afloat and are not even DP2 capable (consider drill ships, large cargo ships and the like are DP and DP3).

This means no A60 barriers, large cavernous spaces, single engine rooms, few bulk heads the works. They are much less 'redundant' than the likes of the Titanic......

As a result, hole the side and they sink, no stopping it. As a consequence, floating them again is equally difficult as you don't simply pump a compartment out.

Similarly, have an engine room fire and you loose all your main electric diesel sets and are left with no propulsion and only basic life support systems running off the emergency generator.

Hence what they are having to do with this one. 

[Andy B]

...
As a result, hole the side and they sink, no stopping it. As a consequence, floating them again is equally difficult as you don't simply pump a compartment out. .....

No double skins then  On a Grey Funnel Liner, you'd isolate the relevant compartment from the rest of the ship & leave them flooded till such times you could fix the hole & then pump out the ogin 

[BazaJT]

The engineering feat you refer to Lizzie regarding the raising of part of the German fleet scuttled by their crews in Scapa Flow is the subject of a fascinating book[a copy of which I own]titled The Man Who Bought A Navy by Gerald Bowman,and a thoroughly good read it is too.

[hotel21]

They do have compartments Andy but they are large ones.  Most grey funnel vessels are quite small in relative terms but are designed primarily to keep upright and afloat and fighting back whilst getting battered by the enemy.

Pazzy boats are double skinned - that's where the fuel and water tanks generally are - but when substantially holed through both skins then they turn turtle as they don have the same bulkhead construction as per Marks above. That, despite most superstructure above main deck level being aluminium.

They are oversized shoeboxes with a sharp end and a blunt end unlike the streamlined frigates, cruisers and dreadnaughts etc of your era. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Cruise ships have a 'self sufficient' cargo where the insurance is mainly born by the cargo itself and generally is able to 'fend for itself'

[ronnyd]

No probs with RT link at my end

[Andy B]

I've  no idea how big this cruise ship is comparison to some of the cruise ships we used to see in and around Norway/Denmark, but they all seemed massive when parked up and there seemed to be huge percentage of the ship above the main deck.

[omega3000]

How do the plug the hole and keep it upright at the same time 

[Andy B]

How do they plug the hole and keep it upright at the same time 

a bloody big soft wood wedge 

[Entwood]

Here is a better web cam from RT

http://rt.com/on-air/costa-concordia-salavage-operation/

linky no worky ..

Works for me Nige.....

'tis now ... 

[PhilRich]

They do have compartments Andy but they are large ones.  Most grey funnel vessels are quite small in relative terms but are designed primarily to keep upright and afloat and fighting back whilst getting battered by the enemy.

Pazzy boats are double skinned - that's where the fuel and water tanks generally are - but when substantially holed through both skins then they turn turtle as they don have the same bulkhead construction as per Marks above. That, despite most superstructure above main deck level being aluminium.

They are oversized shoeboxes with a sharp end and a blunt end unlike the streamlined frigates, cruisers and dreadnaughts etc of your era. 

Stripe me Andy, the lubber's putting years on you matey!