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[omega3000]

Thought i would share how my project on the £1.04p bumper progresses , so here we have the said bumper looking in a sorry state .. split both bottom corners 





So opened up the cracks and made 2 support brackets inside and firbre glassed the brackets over for more strength ..



Sanded back the surrounding edges then taped over the front of the crack and filled with fibre glass from the back forcing fibre glass through to the tape ...



Will wait till this has hardened and apply more fibre glass front and back then sand back ... more to come 

[martin42]

looking good there EMD 

[Del Boy]

I like to see a bit of body repair going on  .

[omega3000]

Soon many hours of sanding to be done but will be worth it in the end , dont think ill be going right back to bare surface just make a good key and use some etching primer 

[Del Boy]

Soon many hours of sanding to be done but will be worth it in the end , dont think ill be going right back to bare surface just make a good key and use some etching primer 

I hate sanding  .

[omega3000]

Soon many hours of sanding to be done but will be worth it in the end , dont think ill be going right back to bare surface just make a good key and use some etching primer 

I hate sanding  .

Me too  But all in the prep work , not done anything this big before but the small bits i have done turned out ok as long as those pesky flies keep off it 

[symes]

Looks good so far mate-sanding is a right ball ache - but keep at it mate-no turning back now

[jonny2112]

Looking good pal 
Can't wait to see how you get on 

[omega3000]

Not much more done accept for some extra fibre glassing ..

Here underneath both corners were split as well so metal brackets drilled bolted and fibre glassed over inside , now with the outside prepped its time to apply more fibre glass over the bolted cracked area ..



Fibre glassed over , as this wont be seen ill roughly shape around the glass then spray over best i can ..



Now to wait for curing , taking longer than expected to harden but this cold weather dont help 



More to come ....

[dbug]

Keep it up Steve

[cem_devecioglu]

good work Emd
 
only important factor, dont hurry

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Coming along nicely there, Keep it up 

[Webby the Bear]

nice one steve. watching this one with interest as I need to sort my bodywork.... and the car's 

[omega3000]

Thanks all  Next stage will be to sand all the surface filler down which im thoroughly looking forward to  Never used etch primer so not sure if this will do the job on this ... ill ask in the shop before i buy it or maybe someone on here can put me in the right direction about this etch primer stuff 

[cem_devecioglu]

Thanks all  Next stage will be to sand all the surface filler down which im thoroughly looking forward to  Never used etch primer so not sure if this will do the job on this ... ill ask in the shop before i buy it or maybe someone on here can put me in the right direction about this etch primer stuff 

etching primer must be this so called plastic primer and its important to use it first..  than normal primer..
 
I have doubt about those fracture areas   if you fill them with bondo(after normal primer sanded ) and if the fractures move, paint can fracture so
 
imo use plastic primer -sand 360-400- normal primer-sand (500-600 grid)- tiny layers of bondo (not whole at a time) - than prime it again 

[omega3000]

Plastic primer i guess wil do the job cem , just as long as i make a decent base for application 

[dbug]

 

[omega3000]

So after a lot of sanding the repaired corners and bits were sanded flat , then primed , after primer was applied imperfections in filler were spotted so more easy sand filler applied ..




After sanding again , more primer and partly finished bumper . Im going to get spray putty to build up thicker layers to cover the last of imperfections .




Quite pleased with how its coming along considering how it first looked 



More to come ...

[martin42]

looking good EMD 

[omega3000]

looking good EMD 

Thanks for helping mate , cant wait to get the silver paint and lacquer on and bolted up to car , patience dear grasshopper 

[dbug]

Looking good matey

[omega3000]

Looking good matey

Thanks mate , i just noticed the imperfection in the first picture  , that was sorted too after the picture was taken 

[dbug]

Looking good matey

Thanks mate , i just noticed the imperfection in the first picture  , that was sorted too after the picture was taken 

Assumed they would be "puttyed" out

[omega3000]

Looking good matey

Thanks mate , i just noticed the imperfection in the first picture  , that was sorted too after the picture was taken 

Assumed they would be "puttyed" out

Most will , just the paint reacted and bubbled on some bits . A quick rub down sorted it 

[cem_devecioglu]

very good job EMD and its far beyond my expectations..

at that point I have some recommendations ;

firstly give it some more time to dry up both inside outside.. you will need minimum 7-10 days depending on the temperature and sun if you dont use other means of heating..  because in time the primer dries it will contract and show more scratches and imperfections..  so please wait

secondly thicker paint layers cant correct the problem, you need to use filler/bondo again (minimum 4-5 days+) and prime again (3-4+) days

please use plastic/elastic filler bondo pad so you wont need more time to sand

[cem_devecioglu]

also when applying laquer, spray 2-3 tiny layers (hand faster from longer distance)  wait 10-15 minutes, than 2 thicker layers (hand slower normal distance18-20 cm) and wait another 15-20 minutes than another layer or 2..

but be careful I cant predict micron size of the spray can  if its too big arrange accordingly number of layers .. these are for 0.8 micron hvlp

[Murph]

That's looking a whole lot better.
Like I said - you're braver than me!

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Coming along nicely 

[biggriffin]

is that the kitchen table your using as a panel stand..
 cracking job.
 just take note of what cem has said,wise words 

[omega3000]

is that the kitchen table your using as a panel stand..
 cracking job.
 just take note of what cem has said,wise words 

Two patio chairs mate and the living room curtains 
Cem thanks for your advice 

That's looking a whole lot better.


Like I said - you're braver than me!

It was never going to defeat me murph  I just need to be patient as dying to see what it looks like on the car , i will leave this now for a few days and check for any shrinkage 

[ozzycat]

its going well steve if you dont rush it you will do a cracking job well done mate

[omega3000]

its going well steve if you dont rush it you will do a cracking job well done mate

Thanks kev 

So i left the new filler to settle but it decided to crack  So more filler added to cover the crack and more and more sanding 
Today the primer was flatted and left to dry then tack ragged , 2 coats of star silver done today and ill leave it overnight to harden ... Weather looks to be turning for the worse tomorrow so the next job will be to flatten the silver with 1200 grit , then the lacquer can applied .
It will probably be on the car next photo so cant wait for that ....P.s I hate sanding 



More to come ....

[martin42]

looking good there mate 

[dbug]

Don't leave it too long before lacquer mate, otherwise it won't bond properly and will tend to delaminate

[symes]

Don't leave it too long before lacquer mate, otherwise it won't bond properly and will tend to delaminate

+1 -must type faster

[omega3000]

Don't leave it too long before lacquer mate, otherwise it won't bond properly and will tend to delaminate

Just hobbled out and applied the lacquer  Looking good , mite have to touch up here and there but its good to go on the car now 

[cem_devecioglu]

its going well steve if you dont rush it you will do a cracking job well done mate

Thanks kev 

So i left the new filler to settle but it decided to crack  So more filler added to cover the crack and more and more sanding 
Today the primer was flatted and left to dry then tack ragged , 1. 2 coats of star silver done today and ill leave it overnight to harden ... 2. Weather looks to be turning for the worse tomorrow so the next job will be to flatten the silver with 3.1200 grit , then the lacquer can applied .
It will probably be on the car next photo so cant wait for that ....P.s 4.I hate sanding 



More to come ....

1. just before applying laquer apply another coat of star silver it will stay better and sick better to laquer (wait for 5-6 minutes for it to dry partially) also before starting final paint use silicon remover type cleaners to clean the surface and never touch the surface with bare hand..
 
2. forget about the weather and wait more if required.. hurry is the enemy of paint jobs..
 
3. either old 1200 or old 1500 (wet) and let it for dry to be sure there is no moisture
 
4. me too

[omega3000]

Thanks cem , only when its fully assembled to the car and in good light i will see many spots i probably will see that need a quick touch in  I would sooner of done the work with the bumper on the car looking back , ill get it on the car and take a few pics  Luckily my phone camera does not show imperfections  And those pesky flies landed on it a few times 

[cem_devecioglu]

good painters use 2 step painting for the color coat.. first they paint to cover/close the primer completely and than they sand the surface to be as smooth as possible. this shortens the painting time in the paint cabin and also clears any imperfections before final paint..
then they apply the final color coat and laquer in heated/ventilated paint cabins..

[cem_devecioglu]

Thanks cem , only when its fully assembled to the car and in good light i will see many spots i probably will see that need a quick touch in  I would sooner of done the work with the bumper on the car looking back , ill get it on the car and take a few pics  Luckily my phone camera does not show imperfections  And those pesky flies landed on it a few times

common problem..
 
solution is 4 poles and a tight net over you when painting

[omega3000]

I need a spray booth and many sander people   

Sanding Party 

More to come

[cem_devecioglu]

I need a spray booth and many sander people   

Sanding Party 

count me in for the sanding party   (1 hour ago I was sanding my test panel and using some filler on it)
 
spray booth hire prices not cheap here.. 20£ for an hour .. for masking and painting I 'll need 4 hours to paint omega

[omega3000]

I need a spray booth and many sander people   

Sanding Party 

count me in for the sanding party   (1 hour ago I was sanding my test panel and using some filler on it)
 
spray booth hire prices not cheap here.. 20£ for an hour .. for masking and painting I 'll need 4 hours to paint omega

Didnt know you could hire them 

I know that you use as little filler as possible so that minimal sanding time and swearing is avoided  I wish i had stuck to this method 

[cem_devecioglu]

I need a spray booth and many sander people   

Sanding Party 

count me in for the sanding party   (1 hour ago I was sanding my test panel and using some filler on it)
 
spray booth hire prices not cheap here.. 20£ for an hour .. for masking and painting I 'll need 4 hours to paint omega

Didnt know you could hire them 

I know that you use as little filler as possible so that minimal sanding time and swearing is avoided  I wish i had stuck to this method 

here ,you reserve for hours you need (if available from other painters) than use it..  (they have proper pressures for air line ) and good ventilation)
 
yep when using filler I use it as minimal as possible.. but my work/test panels are really crap so I dont bother using bondo..
 
I use glassurit fast drying bondo and within half an hour I sand it.. so not much swearing required..    but if I do it next day

[omega3000]

Yes , filler sets in 15 minutes depending on temperature , easy sand filler is smoother and faster to sand but needs a good eye when shaping curves .. Given the equipment i used with no booth i think its not too bad , just dont look too closely 

[dbug]

Come on Steve - pics

[omega3000]

Come on Steve - pics

Only just ripped off the masking tape  Hope to rip the old one off the car tomorrow then ill take some pics from a distance 
Id only planned on smoothing the primer down and spent 4 hrs on it much to someones annoyance inside 

[omega3000]

What a bloody nightmare getting the old bumper off  Of about 12 screws , 3 rounded off 2 snapped and 2 were crypton factor inside the wing 

What a mess 



The headlight is out to re-seal it as it was misting , one of my fingers is swollen from slipping with the screwdriver  So once i had the bumper off i found that on the new bumper something was missing ... a snapped bracket , so made one up out of ally and fibre glassed in .All sorted and trims from old bumper put on ready for another day when i can muster up enough energy 


Oh yes , in my frustration i slammed the bonnet at half time only to realize id slammed it on my glasses  Fixed them as well 

[Murph]

Great job!
Did you get the missing chunk of grille surround sorted OK?

[omega3000]

Great job!
Did you get the missing chunk of grille surround sorted OK?

2 chunks murph  Repaired one today , the one at the top i cant do till its on the car but it will be hidden by the grill 

[bored bigyin54]

What a bloody nightmare getting the old bumper off  Of about 12 screws , 3 rounded off 2 snapped and 2 were crypton factor inside the wing 

What a mess 



The headlight is out to re-seal it as it was misting , one of my fingers is swollen from slipping with the screwdriver  So once i had the bumper off i found that on the new bumper something was missing ... a snapped bracket , so made one up out of ally and fibre glassed in .All sorted and trims from old bumper put on ready for another day when i can muster up enough energy 


Oh yes , in my frustration i slammed the bonnet at half time only to realize id slammed it on my glasses  Fixed them as well 

that will teach you to buy a vectra

[dbug]

Not one of your better days, eh, Steve

[omega3000]

Not one of your better days, eh, Steve

Not really mate , finger still throbbing  I do a bit at a time swear a bit then plod on , if it wasnt for the seized screws and bits missing that i had to make it would have been on . Next picture will be it all buttoned up providing i can find enough nuts and bolts  Now my glasses are fixed i mite get on a bit better 

[omega3000]

All done  Went on a lot easier than the old one that came off , i  can see a few bits that need touching up but overall im happy with it 





No more to come 

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Looks good mate nice job 

[omega3000]

A bit better pic 

[cem_devecioglu]

A bit better pic 

looks good ..  if you like it, thats what matters 

[omega3000]

Thanks cem , i can do more to it now its on the car . Just going to let it settle into place then see what else i can do with it . Fog lights dont fit from old bumper  so blanked the holes off till i can get some GSI ones ..hopefully for 99p 

[cem_devecioglu]

Thanks cem , i can do more to it now its on the car . Just going to let it settle into place then see what else i can do with it . Fog lights dont fit from old bumper  so blanked the holes off till i can get some GSI ones ..hopefully for 99p

 

[albitz]

Looks like you did a good job. Not quite as shiny as the rest of the car though.Needs a close in coat of lacquer maybe,or just a good polish once the paint has hardened ?

[omega3000]

Looks like you did a good job. Not quite as shiny as the rest of the car though.Needs a close in coat of lacquer maybe,or just a good polish once the paint has hardened ?

Dam i thought you wouldnt notice  Yes it needs a rub down and re-lacquer but i can do this better now its on the car 

[albitz]

  My eyes aren't as bad as I thought then.

[cem_devecioglu]

Looks like you did a good job. Not quite as shiny as the rest of the car though.Needs a close in coat of lacquer maybe,or just a good polish once the paint has hardened ?

Dam i thought you wouldnt notice  Yes it needs a rub down and re-lacquer but i can do this better now its on the car 

ops..  be careful if you do this whole car will need polishingeven with a proper masking

[omega3000]

It will need many coats of lacquer , with light sanding between coats but some more heavier sanding of scratches that i can see better now its on , wont be doing any more bodywork for a few more years 

[ozzycat]

good job well done i think you've done brilliant seen as the problems you've got with your health
exelant mate