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[grifter]

What is the recommended equivalent gloop to use for cam cover gaskets as it seems the 90485251 isn't available anywhere I've looked. Noticed in the guide it's grey sealant being used.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90542.0

Cheers

G

[Nick W]

You want one of the permanently flexible sealants intended for oil applications - like Loctite 5910 or an equivalent.


The 'correct' GM sealant is readily available from numerous sources, including Ebay, if you google that part number. And is probably cheaper unless you're going to need a whole cartridge

[Doctor Gollum]

What is the recommended equivalent gloop to use for cam cover gaskets as it seems the 90485251 isn't available anywhere I've looked. Noticed in the guide it's grey sealant being used.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90542.0

Cheers

G

Sorry, but if you actually bothered looking, you would find that it is, in fact, readily available.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=90485251

[STEMO]

What is the recommended equivalent gloop to use for cam cover gaskets as it seems the 90485251 isn't available anywhere I've looked. Noticed in the guide it's grey sealant being used.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90542.0

Cheers

G

Sorry, but if you actually bothered looking, you would find that it is, in fact, readily available.

https://www.arnoldclarkautoparts.com/products/genuine-vauxhall-50ml-black-sealant-90485251

Doesn't sold out mean not available then?

[Doctor Gollum]

What is the recommended equivalent gloop to use for cam cover gaskets as it seems the 90485251 isn't available anywhere I've looked. Noticed in the guide it's grey sealant being used.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90542.0

Cheers

G

Sorry, but if you actually bothered looking, you would find that it is, in fact, readily available.

https://www.arnoldclarkautoparts.com/products/genuine-vauxhall-50ml-black-sealant-90485251

Doesn't sold out mean not available then?

from that supplier.

[STEMO]

What is the recommended equivalent gloop to use for cam cover gaskets as it seems the 90485251 isn't available anywhere I've looked. Noticed in the guide it's grey sealant being used.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90542.0

Cheers

G

Sorry, but if you actually bothered looking, you would find that it is, in fact, readily available.

https://www.arnoldclarkautoparts.com/products/genuine-vauxhall-50ml-black-sealant-90485251

Doesn't sold out mean not available then?

from that supplier.

Ok 

[Doctor Gollum]

https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/83190404517-006552-elring-sealing-substance-equiv-to-loctite-5970-1370819-p.asp

[STEMO]

https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/83190404517-006552-elring-sealing-substance-equiv-to-loctite-5970-1370819-p.asp

Well done
That's not the GM stuff, is it? An equivalent maybe?

[Doctor Gollum]

https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/83190404517-006552-elring-sealing-substance-equiv-to-loctite-5970-1370819-p.asp

Well done
That's not the GM stuff, is it? An equivalent maybe?

The GM stuff made by elring. For GM.

Point being that a ten year old partnumber is likely to be changed. The old numbers become obselete and the new Peugeot dealers cba to look up the newer numbers.

It's irritating that people say that xyz isn't available but don't want to spend a bit of time actually calling people who might a) know what the new number is, and b) stock it.

Halfords also sell a suitable loctite sealant, which means Screwfix probably also sell it. Unfortunately it seems to be easier to gripe about it than put some effort in.

[STEMO]

Well, I've looked at grifter's post and I can't find any griping. Maybe it's just me.
If I was good at finding these things online, I would just find it and post it, saves a whole page on the forum. That nice Mr Enceladus seems to do that kind of thing, and doesn't shout at anyone 

[Doctor Gollum]

Well, I've looked at grifter's post and I can't find any griping. Maybe it's just me.
If I was good at finding these things online, I would just find it and post it, saves a whole page on the forum. That nice Mr Enceladus seems to do that kind of thing, and doesn't shout at anyone 

Thing is, you don't get any thanks for finding stuff out using the same facilities that the person posting has available to them had they been of a mind to. Doesn't matter if it is a crank sensor, or sealant or cambelt kit or oil cooler.

[STEMO]

Well, I've looked at grifter's post and I can't find any griping. Maybe it's just me.
If I was good at finding these things online, I would just find it and post it, saves a whole page on the forum. That nice Mr Enceladus seems to do that kind of thing, and doesn't shout at anyone 

Thing is, you don't get any thanks for finding stuff out using the same facilities that the person posting has available to them had they been of a mind to. Doesn't matter if it is a crank sensor, or sealant or cambelt kit or oil cooler.

Ok 


Don't do it, then 

[grifter]

What is the recommended equivalent gloop to use for cam cover gaskets as it seems the 90485251 isn't available anywhere I've looked. Noticed in the guide it's grey sealant being used.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90542.0

Cheers

G

Sorry, but if you actually bothered looking, you would find that it is, in fact, readily available.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=90485251

I did look but didn't see the original GM one, so wasn't sure if all those listed are compatible or one better than the other etc. I do have a lot of knowledge sourcing parts for my old fleet quite extensively over the years, I wasn't sure what the compatible gloop was, especially when I seen grey goop being used in the guide, yet most if not all say use black goop and nothing else.

[sjc]

The Elring stuff is also listed as "Reference number OEM:90485251" on AutoDoc

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/90485251?gadw=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfKJtLeAkWxSk4f4qcx3OA7_5ul06Zps7wv7-8_R75DLRVoDJnyF934aAnBiEALw_wcB

[grifter]

The Elring stuff is also listed as "Reference number OEM:90485251" on AutoDoc

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/90485251?gadw=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOqZBhDNARIsAACsbfKJtLeAkWxSk4f4qcx3OA7_5ul06Zps7wv7-8_R75DLRVoDJnyF934aAnBiEALw_wcB

Thanks, just what I'm looking for. Out of stock but will dig about elsewhere.

G

[STEMO]

Both out of stock.

[ronnyd]

That's a problem these days. You may be able to find what you want, but whether it's actually in stock is another matter.

[Doctor Gollum]

https://www.turnerengineering.co.uk/elring-dirko-sealant-sealing-compound-c2x20634602?gclid=CjwKCAjws--ZBhAXEiwAv-RNLw58X5ST0qTgUpJMQucNOrx6KZ8Ou1EIKi3C7NYo13EsQTVSefx7nBoCThAQAvD_BwE

Don't look, won't find... 

[Nick W]

That's a problem these days. You may be able to find what you want, but whether it's actually in stock is another matter.

If only it was as simple as ringing any factor and asking for a tube of oil-resistant sealant for sumps.


Oh wait, it is that simple.

[biggriffin]

That's a problem these days. You may be able to find what you want, but whether it's actually in stock is another matter.

If only it was as simple as ringing any factor and asking for a tube of oil-resistant sealant for sumps.


Oh wait, it is that simple.

 Are you suggesting using a non approved, non genuine part... You should know better.

[Nick W]

That's a problem these days. You may be able to find what you want, but whether it's actually in stock is another matter.

If only it was as simple as ringing any factor and asking for a tube of oil-resistant sealant for sumps.


Oh wait, it is that simple.

 Are you suggesting using a non approved, non genuine part... You should know better.

Yes, it will result in old testament wrath of God, fire and brimstone coming down from the skies, rivers and seas boiling, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, and mass hysteria. But it will be worth all that, because at least the oppsing cam covers won't leak.

[biggriffin]

That's a problem these days. You may be able to find what you want, but whether it's actually in stock is another matter.

If only it was as simple as ringing any factor and asking for a tube of oil-resistant sealant for sumps.


Oh wait, it is that simple.

 Are you suggesting using a non approved, non genuine part... You should know better.

Yes, it will result in old testament wrath of God, fire and brimstone coming down from the skies, rivers and seas boiling, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, and mass hysteria. But it will be worth all that, because at least the oppsing cam covers won't leak.

 Precisely... I won't say what I use, but its useful around the house, and comes in various colours, and can be used for exhausts, cam covers, water pumps, etc.

[Marks DTM Calib]

It won't for sealent, the original stuff was a loctite product and was a simple oil tollerant silicon sealent.

The oil cooler plate sealent was a bit more special, but still a loctite product

[Enceladus]

It won't for sealent, the original stuff was a loctite product and was a simple oil tollerant silicon sealent.

The oil cooler plate sealent was a bit more special, but still a loctite product

Can the oil cooler sealer be used on the cam cover seals in lieu of the sump sealant?

[Doctor Gollum]

It won't for sealent, the original stuff was a loctite product and was a simple oil tollerant silicon sealent.

The oil cooler plate sealent was a bit more special, but still a loctite product

Can the oil cooler sealer be used on the cam cover seals in lieu of the sump sealant?

If you're a VX dealer you might have an official answer to that, but don't see why it couldn't be, after all we're only talking about 4 1/4" blobs of it...

[Nick W]

It won't for sealent, the original stuff was a loctite product and was a simple oil tollerant silicon sealent.

The oil cooler plate sealent was a bit more special, but still a loctite product

Can the oil cooler sealer be used on the cam cover seals in lieu of the sump sealant?

Probably.
But the cam covers are notorious for leaking and replacing the gaskets isn't a five minute job, so using the specified(or equivalent) sealant to improve the odds of a proper job is sensible.

[Doctor Gollum]

It won't for sealent, the original stuff was a loctite product and was a simple oil tollerant silicon sealent.

The oil cooler plate sealent was a bit more special, but still a loctite product

Can the oil cooler sealer be used on the cam cover seals in lieu of the sump sealant?

Probably.
But the cam covers are notorious for leaking and replacing the gaskets isn't a five minute job, so using the specified(or equivalent) sealant to improve the odds of a proper job is sensible.

Equally, they're a service item because of their known failure rate.

Changing them every 3 or 4 years would be more effective than worrying about the sealant type.

This also applies to anything with a BMW badge.