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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #1 on: 30 July 2021, 00:52:22 »

Hardly surprising really given America's track record for missing the completely obvious.
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #2 on: 30 July 2021, 07:40:59 »

The last administration would have had a few choice words. I have no idea what the current administration is upto beyond lots of smoke and mirrors :-\

Love him or loathe him at least you always knee what Trump was thinking... I'm not convinced that Sippy Cup is capable of sentient thought... Everytime he is allowed to appear, someone somewhere else is obviously upto something. And judging by the show he puts on, it's obviously something nefarious  :-X
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #3 on: 30 July 2021, 10:49:59 »

The last administration would have had a few choice words. I have no idea what the current administration is upto beyond lots of smoke and mirrors :-\

Love him or loathe him at least you always knee what Trump was thinking... I'm not convinced that Sippy Cup is capable of sentient thought... Everytime he is allowed to appear, someone somewhere else is obviously upto something. And judging by the show he puts on, it's obviously something nefarious  :-X
Change the fûckin record. Biden is the President, Trump was an arsehole who was out of his depth. With a bit of luck, him and a few of his cronies will be barred from office by 2024.
Sippy cup is quite mild compared to a big, fat orange prick who lived on cheeseburgers and couldn't string two sentences together.  ;D
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #4 on: 30 July 2021, 10:57:00 »

Mind you, America does make the best cheeseburgers in the world. Beautiful cheeseburgers, make you proud to be fat. MAGA.  ;D
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #5 on: 30 July 2021, 11:01:12 »

So far, Biden hasn't sat down with an obese Korean who despised him, or a Russian who basically laughed in his face. Trump wasn't just a domestic knob, he was a beautiful, global knob. Think I'm done now ;D
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #6 on: 30 July 2021, 11:29:05 »

I suspect that in time, we will come to realise that Biden is at least as much out of his depth than Trump was.
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #7 on: 30 July 2021, 11:35:01 »

I suspect that in time, we will come to realise that Biden is at least as much out of his depth than Trump was.
You suspect wrong. I'm no big fan of Biden, but he'd have to do some pretty stupid things to fall below the standards of Trump.
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #8 on: 30 July 2021, 12:15:43 »

He recently lifted the sanctions on the Russian Nordstream pipeline. He also lifted sanctions against the Executive of the pipeline company who is a personal ally of Putin.
Can you imagine the outcry and allegations of corruption if Trump had done that ?
The U.S. Southern border is utter chaos, with hundreds of thousands of illegal pouring through.
No press coverage to speak of about it.
The media went berserk though when Trump tried to stop it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57180674

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/number-attempted-crossings-southern-u-s-border-hits-21-year-n1274230
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #9 on: 30 July 2021, 12:38:31 »

PAH!  ;D
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #10 on: 30 July 2021, 13:06:50 »

So far, Biden hasn't sat down with an obese Korean who despised him, or a Russian who basically laughed in his face. Trump wasn't just a domestic knob, he was a beautiful, global knob. Think I'm done now ;D

He clearly lacks 'mental capacity' although the left wing MSM in the US refuse to acknowledge it. He is managed like a lost small child and I can't see him last his first term, let alone a second.

He is also 'creepy' never missing the opportunity to bury his nose in the hair of any  prepubescent girl who happens along. :-X

He should resign.....but then we are left with President Harris. ::)

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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #11 on: 30 July 2021, 13:24:15 »

So far, Biden hasn't sat down with an obese Korean who despised him, or a Russian who basically laughed in his face. Trump wasn't just a domestic knob, he was a beautiful, global knob. Think I'm done now ;D

He clearly lacks 'mental capacity' although the left wing MSM in the US refuse to acknowledge it. He is managed like a lost small child and I can't see him last his first term, let alone a second.

He is also 'creepy' never missing the opportunity to bury his nose in the hair of any  prepubescent girl who happens along. :-X

He should resign.....but then we are left with President Harris. ::)
She would be about five minutes behind Sippy Cup.  :-X
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #12 on: 30 July 2021, 14:03:25 »

Apparently America is on course for having 2 million odd illegal immigrants cross the Mexican border this year!  :o

Biden assigned VP Harris the job of sorting the problem, which unless you build a bleddy great wall is a near impossible task, which is probably why he gave her the job in the first place, to kick her into the long grass and make her look useless,. Given that she didn't bother even visiting the border for months, she's doing a good job of that! 🤣

Lets face it. She only got the job because of her gender and race.  :-X

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« Reply #13 on: 30 July 2021, 14:16:53 »

Apparently America is on course for having 2 million odd illegal immigrants cross the Mexican border this year!  :o

Biden assigned VP Harris the job of sorting the problem, which unless you build a bleddy great wall is a near impossible task, which is probably why he gave her the job in the first place, to kick her into the long grass and make her look useless,. Given that she didn't bother even visiting the border for months, she's doing a good job of that! 🤣

Lets face it. She only got the job because of her gender and race.  :-X

Be fair......she didn't visit Europe either. ::) ::) ::) :)
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #14 on: 30 July 2021, 14:18:18 »

Apparently America is on course for having 2 million odd illegal immigrants cross the Mexican border this year!  :o

Biden assigned VP Harris the job of sorting the problem, which unless you build a bleddy great wall is a near impossible task, which is probably why he gave her the job in the first place, to kick her into the long grass and make her look useless,. Given that she didn't bother even visiting the border for months, she's doing a good job of that! 🤣

Lets face it. She only got the job because of her gender and race.  :-X
The irony being that she isn't even black ;D
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #15 on: 30 July 2021, 14:22:48 »

In the interests of balance*, here's the latest Sippy Cup CNN Town Hall with Don Lemon (who incidentally catch believe what he is hearing (his expression and his silence both give him away).

https://youtu.be/t7WwDLzG--Y

*this is the full CNN version rather than the Fox/Sky Australia highlights.
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #16 on: 30 July 2021, 14:27:42 »

PAH!  ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 30 July 2021, 14:53:17 »

Ok, here's the Sky Australia review of it...

https://youtu.be/rSaTXfeKFvA

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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #18 on: 30 July 2021, 15:42:14 »

Apparently America is on course for having 2 million odd illegal immigrants cross the Mexican border this year!  :o

Biden assigned VP Harris the job of sorting the problem, which unless you build a bleddy great wall is a near impossible task, which is probably why he gave her the job in the first place, to kick her into the long grass and make her look useless,. Given that she didn't bother even visiting the border for months, she's doing a good job of that! 🤣




The border is 2000 miles long, and much of it is through uninhabited areas. How is a wall going to do anything useful? What they need is 20mile wide sea between both countries. That will stop all unwanted immigrants.....


The only way to stop this sort of immigration is to make your country even worse than the one they're trying to leave. Which isn't a solution.
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« Reply #19 on: 30 July 2021, 16:57:43 »

Apparently America is on course for having 2 million odd illegal immigrants cross the Mexican border this year!  :o

Biden assigned VP Harris the job of sorting the problem, which unless you build a bleddy great wall is a near impossible task, which is probably why he gave her the job in the first place, to kick her into the long grass and make her look useless,. Given that she didn't bother even visiting the border for months, she's doing a good job of that! 🤣




The border is 2000 miles long, and much of it is through uninhabited areas. How is a wall going to do anything useful? What they need is 20mile wide sea between both countries. That will stop all unwanted immigrants.....


The only way to stop this sort of immigration is to make your country even worse than the one they're trying to leave. Which isn't a solution.

Something like the English channel may work...... ::) ::) ::) :)
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #20 on: 30 July 2021, 17:04:52 »

Apparently America is on course for having 2 million odd illegal immigrants cross the Mexican border this year!  :o

Biden assigned VP Harris the job of sorting the problem, which unless you build a bleddy great wall is a near impossible task, which is probably why he gave her the job in the first place, to kick her into the long grass and make her look useless,. Given that she didn't bother even visiting the border for months, she's doing a good job of that! 🤣




The border is 2000 miles long, and much of it is through uninhabited areas. How is a wall going to do anything useful? What they need is 20mile wide sea between both countries. That will stop all unwanted immigrants.....


The only way to stop this sort of immigration is to make your country even worse than the one they're trying to leave. Which isn't a solution.

Something like the English channel may work...... ::) ::) ::) :)
It would, because the Yanks would actually shoot the bastards as they crossed.
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« Reply #21 on: 30 July 2021, 17:19:28 »

Apparently America is on course for having 2 million odd illegal immigrants cross the Mexican border this year!  :o

Biden assigned VP Harris the job of sorting the problem, which unless you build a bleddy great wall is a near impossible task, which is probably why he gave her the job in the first place, to kick her into the long grass and make her look useless,. Given that she didn't bother even visiting the border for months, she's doing a good job of that! 🤣




The border is 2000 miles long, and much of it is through uninhabited areas. How is a wall going to do anything useful? What they need is 20mile wide sea between both countries. That will stop all unwanted immigrants.....


The only way to stop this sort of immigration is to make your country even worse than the one they're trying to leave. Which isn't a solution.

Something like the English channel may work...... ::) ::) ::) :)




Sorry, achieved satire rather than my normal sarcasm.
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Re: China beats up America in Taiwan war
« Reply #22 on: 30 July 2021, 19:58:24 »

Apparently America is on course for having 2 million odd illegal immigrants cross the Mexican border this year!  :o

Biden assigned VP Harris the job of sorting the problem, which unless you build a bleddy great wall is a near impossible task, which is probably why he gave her the job in the first place, to kick her into the long grass and make her look useless,. Given that she didn't bother even visiting the border for months, she's doing a good job of that! 🤣




The border is 2000 miles long, and much of it is through uninhabited areas. How is a wall going to do anything useful? What they need is 20mile wide sea between both countries. That will stop all unwanted immigrants.....


The only way to stop this sort of immigration is to make your country even worse than the one they're trying to leave. Which isn't a solution.
And the bit she did visit is akin to going to Edinburgh to send a white cliffs of Dover Postcard ;D Imagine Diane Abbot as Foreign Secretary or Chancellor... That's about where Kamala is in both in terms of ability and respect (self or otherwise).

When the wall was first conceived, the gaps were intended to be in the least accessible terrain where there's a less than 50% chance of surviving a foot crossing. With Sippy Cups' Day 1 policy, there are gaps where there shouldn't be which is why so many people are able to literally stroll across.
Texas intends to complete the wall, and by changing their laws to allow them imprison everyone caught for trespass, for a minimum of a year (if you're not a citizen you effectively have no rights, so expect beans and rice) it is only a matter of time before they do actually start shooting people as they climb over the fence. Certainly the National Guard won't tolerate too much nonsense.

As it stands, all these migrants think there's a chance of getting in and getting a free pass. Replacing a glimmer of hope with certain death would soon put an end to it.

And before anyone says think of the children, they were weaponised the moment their parents abandoned them... That might not have been how the parents saw it, but it is certainly how the traffickers are using them. The money saved by shooting illegal immigrants on sight could be better invested in funding education and healthcare in the countries that they are so desperate to leave.

I appreciate that this won't be a popular opinion, but as Nick suggested, deterrents need to be robust and enforced in order to completely effective.
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« Reply #23 on: 30 July 2021, 22:25:30 »

I appreciate that this won't be a popular opinion, but as Nick suggested, deterrents need to be robust and enforced in order to completely effective.


Where the hell did I suggest that???


I stated that building a wall along a 2000mile border is futile, and implied(when I should have stated) that even a 20mile wide sea doesn't stop illegal and unwanted immigration.


I then wrote that the only way to stop people wanting to come to your country is to make it worse than where they are now. Anybody who is prepared to do that, or any other 'solution' that is worse than the problem, is a oppsing idiot.
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« Reply #24 on: 30 July 2021, 22:28:51 »

I appreciate that this won't be a popular opinion, but as Nick suggested, deterrents need to be robust and enforced in order to completely effective.


Where the hell did I suggest that???


I stated that building a wall along a 2000mile border is futile, and implied(when I should have stated) that even a 20mile wide sea doesn't stop illegal and unwanted immigration.


I then wrote that the only way to stop people wanting to come to your country is to make it worse than where they are now. Anybody who is prepared to do that, or any other 'solution' that is worse than the problem, is a oppsing idiot.
Agreed. Just make it worse for them.
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« Reply #25 on: 30 July 2021, 22:37:07 »

PAH!  ;D
Hmmmm......IRS ordered to hand over Trump tax returns to Congress https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58020969
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« Reply #26 on: 30 July 2021, 23:08:48 »

I appreciate that this won't be a popular opinion, but as Nick suggested, deterrents need to be robust and enforced in order to completely effective.


Where the hell did I suggest that???


I stated that building a wall along a 2000mile border is futile, and implied(when I should have stated) that even a 20mile wide sea doesn't stop illegal and unwanted immigration.


I then wrote that the only way to stop people wanting to come to your country is to make it worse than where they are now. Anybody who is prepared to do that, or any other 'solution' that is worse than the problem, is a oppsing idiot.
"make it worse"

The channel is no more of a deterrent than an inconvenience. Although you can't walk across it, unlike the Rio Grande ::)

Perhaps a more reasonable approach would be to establish a barge at the halfway point and insist that you will only qualify to be considered for some sort of status if you go via said barge. And the return people to French France.

I am not actually advocating the shooting/drowning of people (although it would be an effective deterrent :'( ) but rather highlighting the fact that at some point, if we actually want to stop encouraging people we need to either do something about where they are leaving or play by the traffickers rules because they sure as hell don't play by ours. This is an inconvenient point, but at some point words and gestures won't be enough.

In the US, Sippy Cup has effectively legalised illegal immigration. Here, we have always been a soft touch and it is about time that stopped. If people were stopped permanently at the first safe refuge then we would have effectively zero people trying to get here.

Remain in Mexico wasn't a popular policy, but it was effective. Remain in France? Or Spain or Greece?
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« Reply #27 on: 30 July 2021, 23:43:30 »

I don't know why it has only just occurred to me, but why do people pay thousands to cross the Channel in a £500 Amazon inflatable, when you can cross as a foot passenger for peanuts.

Apparently €3,000... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-54358029

£43 one way with a bicycle on DFDS...
And a fake French ID is €300.

I'm no good at adding, but that's quite a profit margin. If you made it clear how much people were being ripped off, would they still bother?
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« Reply #29 on: 31 July 2021, 09:07:16 »

I don't know why it has only just occurred to me, but why do people pay thousands to cross the Channel in a £500 Amazon inflatable, when you can cross as a foot passenger for peanuts.

Apparently €3,000... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-54358029

£43 one way with a bicycle on DFDS...
And a fake French ID is €300.

I'm no good at adding, but that's quite a profit margin. If you made it clear how much people were being ripped off, would they still bother?




We can, because we have the accepted paperwork. And it's true for any other European who is used to crossing borders.


But anyone who doesn't have it can't use ferries/Eurotunnel/passenger airports. They've probably started in places where the idea of walking past a barrier by just waving a piece paper simply isn't the way of doing things.


You also make it sound as if we're the only European country that has an illegal immigration problem, which simply isn't true.



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« Reply #30 on: 31 July 2021, 09:58:57 »

Not at all, but thanks to our free stuff policies, (which incidentally is one of the things wrong domestically), people will quite merrily head here crossing through several other equally pleasant* countries.

Stopping at the first safe place would make more sense both culturally and physically.

Put another way, you wouldn't walk all the way to Persia if Sheppy got a bit lively.

*pleasant is a relative term, but Turkey is probably better than Syria. And we're not talking about people without means. £3,000 would get you a suite on a Cunard mini cruise from Zeebrugge to Southampton.

No, people largely only come here for what they can get, not what they contribute, and the further they travel the more 'baggage' they bring with them :-X
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« Reply #31 on: 31 July 2021, 13:52:57 »

Completely agree.  :y
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« Reply #32 on: 01 August 2021, 21:34:31 »

Ok, here's the Sky Australia review of it...

https://youtu.be/rSaTXfeKFvA

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« Reply #33 on: 01 August 2021, 22:53:42 »

Ok, here's the Sky Australia review of it...

https://youtu.be/rSaTXfeKFvA

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« Reply #34 on: 02 August 2021, 06:40:03 »

Ok, here's the Sky Australia review of it...

https://youtu.be/rSaTXfeKFvA

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« Reply #35 on: 02 August 2021, 11:16:14 »

Ok, here's the Sky Australia review of it...

https://youtu.be/rSaTXfeKFvA

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Covid... Climate Change... There's a narrative going on and anyone who presents an alternative view is dragged off and burnt at the stake!*  :o  >:(

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« Reply #36 on: 02 August 2021, 11:39:22 »

Can't do much about wind and rain, but you have to wonder if the fires are targeted...
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« Reply #37 on: 02 August 2021, 14:02:10 »

There is a converse.

You cant do much about warming and lack of rainfall. For everywhere that has had disastrous rain there are loads of places having drought and increased temperatures. Not enough time or inclination to expand on it here. Two current examples are the drought in Iran and the warming in Siberia and Alaska where permafrost is thawing with obvious threat to foundations of buildings and pipelines.

If the world was suffering from global cooling, I suspect there would be more interest. Global warming? Most folk in developed countries live in cooler climes. Bit of warming ? Bring it on!
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« Reply #38 on: 02 August 2021, 16:07:38 »

Ok, here's the Sky Australia review of it...

https://youtu.be/rSaTXfeKFvA

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« Reply #39 on: 02 August 2021, 18:24:43 »

There is some justice though... Good result in the Women's Weightlifting.
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« Reply #40 on: 02 August 2021, 19:40:44 »

There is a converse.

You cant do much about warming and lack of rainfall. For everywhere that has had disastrous rain there are loads of places having drought and increased temperatures. Not enough time or inclination to expand on it here. Two current examples are the drought in Iran and the warming in Siberia and Alaska where permafrost is thawing with obvious threat to foundations of buildings and pipelines.

If the world was suffering from global cooling, I suspect there would be more interest. Global warming? Most folk in developed countries live in cooler climes. Bit of warming ? Bring it on!

In the 1970's climate scientists thought that the planet was cooling and that we were heading into an ice age.  ::)
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« Reply #41 on: 03 August 2021, 00:42:18 »

Maybe they're right...
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« Reply #42 on: 03 August 2021, 09:29:19 »

Maybe they're right...

Maybe they are...

We've certainly cooled rapidly in the last couple of weeks and my prediction is an overall cooling trajectory for the next few months.  ;)
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« Reply #43 on: 03 August 2021, 12:59:12 »

Tell that to the Greeks who are experiencing the worst heat since something like 1987.  :-[

Like I said earlier it depends on where in the world you are. Temperate Britain isn’t really a good base to experience the extremes other countries are experiencing.
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« Reply #44 on: 03 August 2021, 13:57:56 »

Perhaps I wasn't clear. How many of the current fires that have suddenly popped up in the eastern Med started naturally?

The reason Lundun got flooded last week wasn't because it rained heavily, but because no one has bothered to clean the drains out.

In the grand scheme of things a week long hot spell isn't exceptional... it's currently 45° at Athens Airport, which given the expanse of concrete and the fact that July and August are their hottest months by some margin, could be considered uncommon, but not extremely so.
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« Reply #45 on: 03 August 2021, 16:03:28 »

Just got back from Whitby, a pleasant 22°C there. Although listening to the dog gasping for breath (She is old and hairy) you'd think it was 122.
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« Reply #46 on: 03 August 2021, 16:04:11 »

Just got back from Whitby, a pleasant 22°C there. Although listening to the dog gasping for breath (She is old and hairy) you'd think it was 122.
Quiet, Opti.  :)
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« Reply #47 on: 03 August 2021, 16:16:20 »

Did you have Fish and chips at Trenchers?

Agreed about some fires being started by arsonists or disgruntled firefighters etc. Happens everywhere. Equally folk carelessly tossing out fag ends starts a fair few. Yesterday we watched the fire helicopter collecting water from the nearby lake. The number of fires each year are staggering here in Spain. I expected it to be ten or so.
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« Reply #48 on: 03 August 2021, 17:02:57 »

Did you have Fish and chips at Trenchers?

Agreed about some fires being started by arsonists or disgruntled firefighters etc. Happens everywhere. Equally folk carelessly tossing out fag ends starts a fair few. Yesterday we watched the fire helicopter collecting water from the nearby lake. The number of fires each year are staggering here in Spain. I expected it to be ten or so.
We didn't go anywhere for fish and chips. It was horrendously crowded, I had to queue for ten minutes for a piss!
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« Reply #49 on: 03 August 2021, 17:15:53 »

Did you have Fish and chips at Trenchers?

Agreed about some fires being started by arsonists or disgruntled firefighters etc. Happens everywhere. Equally folk carelessly tossing out fag ends starts a fair few. Yesterday we watched the fire helicopter collecting water from the nearby lake. The number of fires each year are staggering here in Spain. I expected it to be ten or so.
We didn't go anywhere for fish and chips. It was horrendously crowded, I had to queue for ten minutes for a piss!
Why didn't you go in the sea like every one else?  :D
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