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[henryd]

All of this is, by and large, moot. People (me) will only adopt eco friendly cars* when we are forced to. Why? Well 1) It costs money 2) Most people realise that, even if this country turned zero emissions overnight, it wouldn't make a jot of difference to the world as a whole.

My diesel emits particulates which harm people on busy roads in densely populated areas, I don't live in such a place. A switch to petrol would mean emitting CO2, which kills the whole planet, apparently.

IMO, hybrids are not eco friendly cars.

Except it doesn't......thanks to the DPF.

The bigger issue was NOx but, modern diesels with selective catalytic reaction plus AdBlue, output less NOx than petrols.

There are even a few new diesels (including one of ours), where the NOx levels are not even measurable.

Blame the press and politicians who are jumping on a band wagon they don't understand

This ^^^^

[STEMO]

Right. If that's the case, I can drive around Barnsley safe in the knowledge that I'm doing little harm. Unlike that Opti fella.....

[Figureman52]

As I understand it, even a modern diesel is not suitable for mainly short journeys, ie under 4 miles.
Makes you wonder how the mummy buses cope with only doing the school run twice a day.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

All of this is, by and large, moot. People (me) will only adopt eco friendly cars* when we are forced to. Why? Well 1) It costs money 2) Most people realise that, even if this country turned zero emissions overnight, it wouldn't make a jot of difference to the world as a whole.

My diesel emits particulates which harm people on busy roads in densely populated areas, I don't live in such a place. A switch to petrol would mean emitting CO2, which kills the whole planet, apparently.

IMO, hybrids are not eco friendly cars.

Except it doesn't......thanks to the DPF.

The bigger issue was NOx but, modern diesels with selective catalytic reaction plus AdBlue, output less NOx than petrols.

There are even a few new diesels (including one of ours), where the NOx levels are not even measurable.

Blame the press and politicians who are jumping on a band wagon they don't understand

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Derv sales are still falling.

[STEMO]

All of this is, by and large, moot. People (me) will only adopt eco friendly cars* when we are forced to. Why? Well 1) It costs money 2) Most people realise that, even if this country turned zero emissions overnight, it wouldn't make a jot of difference to the world as a whole.

My diesel emits particulates which harm people on busy roads in densely populated areas, I don't live in such a place. A switch to petrol would mean emitting CO2, which kills the whole planet, apparently.

IMO, hybrids are not eco friendly cars.

Except it doesn't......thanks to the DPF.

The bigger issue was NOx but, modern diesels with selective catalytic reaction plus AdBlue, output less NOx than petrols.

There are even a few new diesels (including one of ours), where the NOx levels are not even measurable.

Blame the press and politicians who are jumping on a band wagon they don't understand

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Derv sales are still falling.

This is good news for those of us prepared to ignore the crap. Diesels are also getting cheaper. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

All of this is, by and large, moot. People (me) will only adopt eco friendly cars* when we are forced to. Why? Well 1) It costs money 2) Most people realise that, even if this country turned zero emissions overnight, it wouldn't make a jot of difference to the world as a whole.

My diesel emits particulates which harm people on busy roads in densely populated areas, I don't live in such a place. A switch to petrol would mean emitting CO2, which kills the whole planet, apparently.

IMO, hybrids are not eco friendly cars.

Except it doesn't......thanks to the DPF.

The bigger issue was NOx but, modern diesels with selective catalytic reaction plus AdBlue, output less NOx than petrols.

There are even a few new diesels (including one of ours), where the NOx levels are not even measurable.

Blame the press and politicians who are jumping on a band wagon they don't understand

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Derv sales are still falling.

This is good news for those of us prepared to ignore the crap. Diesels are also getting cheaper. 

I'm trying to save the planet with petrol.

Just been on the phone with Mercedes Lincoln who want to sell me an  E63 estate in black. Only done 2200 miles.

I'm tempted. They are going to get back to me with a price. Car has been with them for 'some time' so probably want shot of it. Four wheel drive. 

[STEMO]

All of this is, by and large, moot. People (me) will only adopt eco friendly cars* when we are forced to. Why? Well 1) It costs money 2) Most people realise that, even if this country turned zero emissions overnight, it wouldn't make a jot of difference to the world as a whole.

My diesel emits particulates which harm people on busy roads in densely populated areas, I don't live in such a place. A switch to petrol would mean emitting CO2, which kills the whole planet, apparently.

IMO, hybrids are not eco friendly cars.

Except it doesn't......thanks to the DPF.

The bigger issue was NOx but, modern diesels with selective catalytic reaction plus AdBlue, output less NOx than petrols.

There are even a few new diesels (including one of ours), where the NOx levels are not even measurable.

Blame the press and politicians who are jumping on a band wagon they don't understand

[/highlight]

Derv sales are still falling.

This is good news for those of us prepared to ignore the crap. Diesels are also getting cheaper. 

I'm trying to save the planet with petrol.

Just been on the phone with Mercedes Lincoln who want to sell me an  E63 estate in black. Only done 2200 miles.

I'm tempted. They are going to get back to me with a price. Car has been with them for 'some time' so probably want shot of it. Four wheel drive. 

Asian lad in corner shop tells me that the 63 is not 6.3 litres any more. It's a 4 litre twin turbo.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

All of this is, by and large, moot. People (me) will only adopt eco friendly cars* when we are forced to. Why? Well 1) It costs money 2) Most people realise that, even if this country turned zero emissions overnight, it wouldn't make a jot of difference to the world as a whole.

My diesel emits particulates which harm people on busy roads in densely populated areas, I don't live in such a place. A switch to petrol would mean emitting CO2, which kills the whole planet, apparently.

IMO, hybrids are not eco friendly cars.

Except it doesn't......thanks to the DPF.

The bigger issue was NOx but, modern diesels with selective catalytic reaction plus AdBlue, output less NOx than petrols.

There are even a few new diesels (including one of ours), where the NOx levels are not even measurable.

Blame the press and politicians who are jumping on a band wagon they don't understand

[/highlight]

Derv sales are still falling.

This is good news for those of us prepared to ignore the crap. Diesels are also getting cheaper. 

I'm trying to save the planet with petrol.

Just been on the phone with Mercedes Lincoln who want to sell me an  E63 estate in black. Only done 2200 miles.

I'm tempted. They are going to get back to me with a price. Car has been with them for 'some time' so probably want shot of it. Four wheel drive. 

Asian lad in corner shop tells me that the 63 is not 6.3 litres any more. It's a 4 litre twin turbo.

Citizen Khan is correct.

Originally a 6.3 litre N/A V8..........which became a 5.5 litre turbo V8.........now a paltry 4 litre V8, but with more power and torque.

That's progress for you.

[STEMO]

Don't know if he's had his exhaust doctored but, when he puts his foot down, it's sounds like the end of the world.

[aaronjb]

One thing Merc do better than BMW - the standard exhaust sounds like armageddon when you nail it on their "hot" cars.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm trying to save the planet with petrol.

Just been on the phone with Mercedes Lincoln who want to sell me an  E63 estate in black. Only done 2200 miles.

I'm tempted. They are going to get back to me with a price. Car has been with them for 'some time' so probably want shot of it. Four wheel drive. 

That should be a suitable replacement for the Sicknum M'lud!    and due to the rarity factor they should offer you top dollar for P/X. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm trying to save the planet with petrol.

Just been on the phone with Mercedes Lincoln who want to sell me an  E63 estate in black. Only done 2200 miles.

I'm tempted. They are going to get back to me with a price. Car has been with them for 'some time' so probably want shot of it. Four wheel drive. 

That should be a suitable replacement for the Sicknum M'lud!    and due to the rarity factor they should offer you top dollar for P/X. 

It would be a replacement for the elderly but still mighty Signum. Not sure an E class has the same 'WOW' factor though.

In white they remind me of a wedding car or Taxi.

[STEMO]

One thing Merc do better than BMW - the standard exhaust sounds like armageddon when you nail it on their "hot" cars.

If I got one as a doggie transporter, I think I'd be cleaning dog shit up after every journey 

[STEMO]

I'm trying to save the planet with petrol.

Just been on the phone with Mercedes Lincoln who want to sell me an  E63 estate in black. Only done 2200 miles.

I'm tempted. They are going to get back to me with a price. Car has been with them for 'some time' so probably want shot of it. Four wheel drive. 

That should be a suitable replacement for the Sicknum M'lud!    and due to the rarity factor they should offer you top dollar for P/X. 

It would be a replacement for the elderly but still mighty Signum. Not sure an E class has the same 'WOW' factor though.

In white they remind me of a wedding car or Taxi.

Would you gift Mrs Opti the old jag?

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm trying to save the planet with petrol.

Just been on the phone with Mercedes Lincoln who want to sell me an  E63 estate in black. Only done 2200 miles.

I'm tempted. They are going to get back to me with a price. Car has been with them for 'some time' so probably want shot of it. Four wheel drive. 

That should be a suitable replacement for the Sicknum M'lud!    and due to the rarity factor they should offer you top dollar for P/X. 

It would be a replacement for the elderly but still mighty Signum. Not sure an E class has the same 'WOW' factor though.

In white they remind me of a wedding car or Taxi.

Would you gift Mrs Opti the old jag?

Ha ha is that a joke Uncle Stemo?   

Poor Mrs Opti will have to make do with her 03 Corsa as usual!