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Title: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: Vamps on 27 April 2010, 23:31:06
Anything I should know about this engine, possibly looking at a Vectra SRi with this engine.... :-/
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: Del Boy on 27 April 2010, 23:35:27
Can be quite be problematic, egr's and dpf's can cause a lot of issues. They're very quick though. Not too bad as long as they're looked after well. 
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: Lazydocker on 28 April 2010, 08:20:11
Personally I found the seats in the Veccy C a tad too hard and uncomfortable... I used to spend a long time in mine and I knew I'd done it whereas the Omega (and even my 1989 Range Rover) left me feeling fresh :y
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: Jim on 28 April 2010, 08:51:02
Is it the 120 or the 150 1.9cdti, if the t is red in the cdti badge then it's the 150 if the badge is all chrome then its the 120, I had a signum with the 150 engine and did 88,000 miles in it in 2 years and it never lost a beat, and my wife astra twintop also has the 150 engine and its rapid ;)
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 28 April 2010, 08:59:26
Mates got one on a 56 plate,and it f*****k goes like hell,although he has put a tuning box on giving 200bhp,and 400lb torque,And i would say it should leave my mig standing. ;)
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 April 2010, 09:02:37
Ok, some facts.

DPF is only fitted to Zafira and Astra Twin top - Not an issue if you follow the instructions in the user manual when it regens!

16V - These are the 150bhp ones, the 8V is 120bhp. The 16V has the oil filler on the right side of the cover, the 8V is on the left (easiest wat to ID them). There was a short period where 16V units were fitted to 120bhp models and the MAP modified to lower the output due to a shortage in 8V pwoer plants.

EGR's can stick (seems all to common on diesels of all makes sadly these days mine has stuck once in 40K miles). These are VERY easy to remove and clean and I am yet to have to replace one.

The Vectra uses the F40 gearbox which is stronger than the Astra/Zafira M32 unit so no worries here. The M32 generally only suffers issues if you up the power to 200bhp with a tuning box or re-map.

If looking at one, start it up 5 times and listen for a clack when it fires, this can be a sign of the DMF getting loose (again, all to common on modern cars ranging from VAG to Ford etc etc). Agaian, its not as common as some make out.

All in, not a bad engine.

The 16V unit has swirl flaps (the 8V does not) pre 2007 cars can ahev issues with these sticking, a modified inlet was fitted after this (and retro fitted to units with issues) which resolved this fault.

Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: pscocoa on 28 April 2010, 16:35:32
I have this engine in the Signum - really great on motorway - quiet, efficient circa 50 mpg. As said by others the dual mass flywheel is the potential downside and you should ask if that has been done recently and of course related to that is the conidition of the clutch. If you go onto the Vectra C/Signum website there will be a lot of threads re DMF
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: HNO3GOH on 28 April 2010, 22:20:30
I have this engine in my saab 93 and it's called the 1.9 TID and mine is the 150 and yes it's quick with good mpg but then i come home and get in the MV6 and that puts an even bigger smile on my face ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 28 April 2010, 22:34:18
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Mates got one on a 56 plate,and it f*****k goes like hell,although he has put a tuning box on giving 200bhp,and 400lb torque,And i would say it should leave my mig standing. ;)

Is that a typo
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: HNO3GOH on 28 April 2010, 22:54:04
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Mates got one on a 56 plate,and it f*****k goes like hell,although he has put a tuning box on giving 200bhp,and 400lb torque,And i would say it should leave my mig standing. ;)

Is that a typo

it's not, it's about 320 before you put the little black box in.
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 28 April 2010, 23:21:03
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Mates got one on a 56 plate,and it f*****k goes like hell,although he has put a tuning box on giving 200bhp,and 400lb torque,And i would say it should leave my mig standing. ;)

Is that a typo

it's not, it's about 320 before you put the little black box in.

No wonder they are quick then

Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: Vamps on 29 April 2010, 23:44:15
The add that I saw was for an auto, might have a snoop over the weekend, though we are going away ::)
Found myself looking at all sorts, on the net, don't know what I want..... :( :D :(
swmbo says I can't make a decision... ::) ::)
The alternative is a Peugeot 3008 Crossover 1.6 HDI auto, on Aug 4th... :D :D :D
Title: Re: 1.9CDTi 16v
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 30 April 2010, 07:57:47
Beware as teh auto increases the emissions and bungs them up a taxbracket or 2 (knowing how tight you northerners are  ;D)