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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Elite_L0ver on 21 February 2017, 21:16:16

Title: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 21 February 2017, 21:16:16
I think i have accidently come across 3 vauxhall cam locking tools unintentionally can anyone confirm this for me.!?!

(https://s7.postimg.org/65xycihfb/IMG_1244.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/65xycihfb/)

Here is the picture of what i think is vauxhall lock tools and which one for my 2.2 Mig i think im correct in saying blue or gold :y :y

Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: tunnie on 21 February 2017, 21:36:02
2.2 petrol? Neither, looks like V6 kit with colour coded ones.  :-\

Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 21 February 2017, 21:42:54
2.2 petrol? Neither, looks like V6 kit with colour coded ones.  :-\

Im looking for the 2.2 looking at the pictures i think its the blue 1
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: zirk on 22 February 2017, 00:58:58
Bigger Picture might help.  ::)
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: zirk on 22 February 2017, 00:59:37
Here you go.  ;)

(https://s7.postimg.org/f0ysn167v/IMG_1244.jpg)
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 22 February 2017, 08:03:32
Here you go.  ;)

(https://s7.postimg.org/f0ysn167v/IMG_1244.jpg)

Anybody 8)
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Nick W on 22 February 2017, 08:47:44
That looks like one of the generic sets that cover lots of engines, and you've highlighted the Vx tools.
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 22 February 2017, 08:49:00
I know its a gen set but need to know if i can use on my 2.2 :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 February 2017, 12:42:12
I think the Blue is for the 1.6/1.8 small blocks and the Gold for the 1.8/2.0/2.2 big block engines
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: TheBoy on 22 February 2017, 17:41:57
But as they are less than a fiver, I wouldn't be overly concerned :)
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 22 February 2017, 18:08:35
But as they are less than a fiver, I wouldn't be overly concerned :)

Not concerned i may take a trip to machine mart and compare
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Butts69 on 22 February 2017, 21:22:40
I think i have accidently come across 3 vauxhall cam locking tools unintentionally

Hope you wiped them ;D
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 22 February 2017, 22:08:19
I think i have accidently come across 3 vauxhall cam locking tools unintentionally
Hope you wiped them ;D

Of course ::)

Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Viral_Jim on 23 February 2017, 23:52:36
Gold one looks the same size as the one I bought. Then again, I went and lost the damn thing before doing mine.

TBH I really dont think you need one for the Desmond, crank stays put and its easy to set the cams as you go as there's only 2 of them. S how I did mine anyway.  8)

So long as you do a couple of full rotations by hand and check everthing's still TDC and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 24 February 2017, 00:07:47
Gold one looks the same size as the one I bought. Then again, I went and lost the damn thing before doing mine.

TBH I really dont think you need one for the Desmond, crank stays put and its easy to set the cams as you go as there's only 2 of them. S how I did mine anyway.  8)

So long as you do a couple of full rotations by hand and check everthing's still TDC and you'll be fine.

Thanks dude think i will still check and use one got kit coming tomorrow so its going to be tomorrow or saturday fitting day then i can finally breath a sigh of relief  :D ;D :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Viral_Jim on 24 February 2017, 00:34:06
Go for it  :y

The joy of the desmond is that there is so much space to work and its fundamentally a really simple engine. I did mine in 2.5hrs or thereabouts and was reliably informed that I was slow as f@ck.  ;D

Last one I did was on a transverse 2.5 v6 AWD X-type. I concluded that what I really needed was a left handed proctologist to help me out with that one!  ;D

Does your kit include a water pump? if not I'd get one "while you're in there" as they are cheap as chips and its a good excuse to drain & change the coolant.
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: mandula on 24 February 2017, 05:29:39
Here's what I used as locking tool  :y

(http://www.protools.fi/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/210x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/r/irwin_10cr_1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2017, 07:08:12
Waterpump is essential on the 2.2 as it's what tensions the belt :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 24 February 2017, 07:39:29
Here's what I used as locking tool  :y

(http://www.protools.fi/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/210x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/r/irwin_10cr_1.jpg)

Really  :D :D ;) :D :D

Waterpump is essential on the 2.2 as it's what tensions the belt :y

It Has been ordered aswell and will be replaced
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 24 February 2017, 08:44:59
Well iv found an answer to this one and the answer is yes it is the 2.2 locking tool and heres proof

I think the Blue is for the 1.6/1.8 small blocks and the Gold for the 1.8/2.0/2.2 big block engines

(https://s17.postimg.org/6sj1ffk57/IMG_1258.png) (https://postimg.org/image/6sj1ffk57/)

So im ready to go when parts arrive Thanks for your help guys i may do a picture guide for Guide also
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Viral_Jim on 24 February 2017, 09:54:01
Waterpump is essential on the 2.2 as it's what tensions the belt :y

Well there you go, I must have completely mis-remembered how the timing belt goes on, thought there was a separate tensioner.  :-\

Going senile in my 30's - not a good sign
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: mandula on 24 February 2017, 10:37:45
Here's what I used as locking tool  :y

(http://www.protools.fi/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/210x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/r/irwin_10cr_1.jpg)

Really  :D :D ;) :D :D

Yep, it was purrrfect  8)
Of course it was adjusted just as tight that it could hold wheels still, not to bend them out of shape  ::)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/f2t3tc.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/v30gsi.jpg)
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: mandula on 24 February 2017, 10:40:39
Waterpump is essential on the 2.2 as it's what tensions the belt :y

Well there you go, I must have completely mis-remembered how the timing belt goes on, thought there was a separate tensioner.  :-\

Going senile in my 30's - not a good sign

Umm.. There sure is a tensioner.. At least I have.
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Elite_L0ver on 24 February 2017, 10:46:35
Waterpump is essential on the 2.2 as it's what tensions the belt :y

Well there you go, I must have completely mis-remembered how the timing belt goes on, thought there was a separate tensioner.  :-\

Going senile in my 30's - not a good sign

Umm.. There sure is a tensioner.. At least I have.

Fair one if they work then fair play at least iv a back up plan if all else fails :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2017, 11:11:20
Mole grips are illadvised as they can break the pulleys...
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: mandula on 24 February 2017, 11:14:40
Mole grips are illadvised as they can break the pulleys...

Usage of the common sense is crucial when using advanced methods like that  ;)

For me, there were not even a scratch on pulleys surface when I removed those grips. But I sure understand that if someone with too much power and too little sense uses that method, will sure deform or even crack the pulleys. In that case, it would be best just to focus only to oil change operations and leave all the rest to mechanician  ::)
Title: Re: 2.2 Locking tool freek find
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2017, 12:08:37
They're relatively brittle by virtue of how they're made :)