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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #30 on: 18 January 2013, 22:53:48 »
Quote from: Andy B on 18 January 2013, 22:03:50
Quote from: cem on 18 January 2013, 21:17:00
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tyre not properly seated or he was lazy to correct the wheel problem..  in snowy days tyre shops are so crowded that balancers become exhausted and sometimes want to quit the job or finish it quickly.. :-\
Done at the dealers, so they don't have that excuse.

Quote from: Omegatoy on 18 January 2013, 20:59:25
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would guess "if the tyre is correctly seated "that you have an egg shaped wheel then mate,or a bad new tyre!!

I'll see what they have to say tomorrow.

thanks to you both. ;)

whatever excuse they have , there is no explanation for 95 grs Andy..
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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #31 on: 18 January 2013, 22:59:35 »
A question about the banding on tyres. If tyres are symmetrical then you'd want stripes on opposite sides (i.e stiped on outsides of tyres) and if tyres are asymmetrical?

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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #32 on: 18 January 2013, 23:06:48 »
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whatever excuse they have , there is no explanation for 95 grs Andy..

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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #33 on: 18 January 2013, 23:09:39 »
Quote from: SMD on 18 January 2013, 22:59:35
A question about the banding on tyres. If tyres are symmetrical then you'd want stripes on opposite sides (i.e stiped on outsides of tyres) and if tyres are asymmetrical?

I need to have a proper look in the light. It was blowing a blizzard when I got the car back so didn't look at the time, I just noticed the reflection of the mass of weights as I got out of the car in the super market car park.  >:( But I'll look at the banding tomorrow.  ;)
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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #34 on: 19 January 2013, 11:11:32 »
You probably are already aware of this but, just in case....

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90462.0

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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #35 on: 19 January 2013, 11:15:46 »
Quote from: hotel21 on 19 January 2013, 11:11:32
You probably are already aware of this but, just in case....

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90462.0

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Thanks Bruce .........  :y  :y
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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #36 on: 20 January 2013, 00:36:19 »
Thanks for the link. Wasn't aware of its existence.

So just to clarify that I have understood it correctly (prob not  ;D ) directional or asymmetrical tyres should have markings on the offside. Is that for all 4 tyres?

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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #37 on: 20 January 2013, 09:08:24 »
Quote from: hotel21 on 19 January 2013, 11:11:32
You probably are already aware of this but, just in case....

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90462.0

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Fascinating read, and I immediately think: "When I order tyres on line, do I get a matched pair?"
Somehow I doubt it. But then I doubt if I would at 99.9% of tyre factors either :-\ :-\ :-\
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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #38 on: 25 January 2013, 11:57:56 »
Took it back this morning. Initially the head tech came & asked why I thought there was a problem ..... he said that in the past he'd used 200+ grams to balance a wheel that big .....
My reply was that there shouldn't be the need to to add so much weight to balance a premium brand tyre & maybe I should ask Bridgestone for their opinion. So he went away, had another go & eventually  came back to say that after moving the tyre on the rim, it was now balanced with just 30 grams.  :y  :y  :y
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« Reply #39 on: 25 January 2013, 12:06:37 »
Quote from: Andy B on 25 January 2013, 11:57:56
Took it back this morning. Initially the head tech came & asked why I thought there was a problem ..... he said that in the past he'd used 200+ grams to balance a wheel that big .....
My reply was that there shouldn't be the need to to add so much weight to balance a premium brand tyre & maybe I should ask Bridgestone for their opinion. So he went away, had another go & eventually  came back to say that after moving the tyre on the rim, it was now balanced with just 30 grams.  :y :y :y

result.. knowledge and logic always wins :y :y :y
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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #40 on: 25 January 2013, 12:25:18 »
Quote from: cem on 25 January 2013, 12:06:37
Quote from: Andy B on 25 January 2013, 11:57:56
Took it back this morning. Initially the head tech came & asked why I thought there was a problem ..... he said that in the past he'd used 200+ grams to balance a wheel that big .....
My reply was that there shouldn't be the need to to add so much weight to balance a premium brand tyre & maybe I should ask Bridgestone for their opinion. So he went away, had another go & eventually  came back to say that after moving the tyre on the rim, it was now balanced with just 30 grams.  :y :y :y

result.. knowledge and logic always wins :y :y :y

He seemed quite pleased with himself  ::)  ;D  ;D
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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #41 on: 25 January 2013, 12:31:18 »
So....was it not properly seated or not properly balanced or the tyre iffy and the rim also....
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« Reply #42 on: 25 January 2013, 12:37:16 »
not properly seated..
 
"say that after moving the tyre on the rim"
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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #43 on: 25 January 2013, 13:04:03 »
Quote from: Marks DTM Calib on 25 January 2013, 12:31:18
So....was it not properly seated or not properly balanced or the tyre iffy and the rim also....

It couldn't have been that far out of balance cos it felt OK at motorway-ish  ::) speeds  :y and he reckoned that the rim on it's own was just 50 grams out
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Re: new tyres/balance weight
« Reply #44 on: 25 January 2013, 13:22:19 »
50 grams is a lot for a rim on its won in my experience.

Sounds like hes put the heavy side of the tyre opposite the heavy side of the rim.

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