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[BazaJT]

I see yet another American warship[a sister ship to the one not long ago in collision with a freighter/tanker]has collided with yet another freighter/tanker,near Singapore with a consequent loss of more American sailors lives.Can these Americans not drive boats?

[Bigron]

They cannot drive ANYTHING, and don't know what side of the road to drive on anyway.
Give them a plane and they kill our boys, regularly.
Frightening, isn't it, that such inept people have such power? 

Ron.

[Varche]

Last time a theory proferred was practising tight manouevres around merchant ships. The captain was relieved of his command. I dare say this one will too.  I think they were just napping.. not good.

[Doctor Gollum]

I wonder if the spoiled brat from NK hacked their navigation systems?

To crash once is poor seamanship. To crash twice identically within three months points to fundamental issues somewhere... Sleeping or the 'other left' are the most likely culprits, closely followed by failing to keep a watch. Understandable if it were a speed boat off Crete, but absolutely no excuse on one of the best equipped, most manoeuvrable things afloat...

[Lizzie Zoom]

Last time a theory proferred was practising tight manouevres around merchant ships. The captain was relieved of his command. I dare say this one will too.  I think they were just napping.. not good.

As I have stated in the thread about the last US Navy ship accident, executing tight passages around slower, but much bigger vessels, takes a hell of a lot of practice, skill, and plain superior seamanship by the commander.  All too many have come unstuck by pure misjudgement and a poor level of command. This seems to be yet another case of that.

[Varche]

Fourth US navy incident this year.

[Varche]

Forgot to add, the yanks launched their first autonomous warship last year. Sooner they are all like that the less lives they will lose in these accidents.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I think the RN have had a few incidents in recent years.  There was a destroyer or Frigate that hit a rock off of Sydney and didn't one of the new Astute class subs get stuck on a sandbar in the Clyde recently? 

[Doctor Gollum]

I think the RN have had a few incidents in recent years.  There was a destroyer or Frigate that hit a rock off of Sydney and didn't one of the new Astute class subs get stuck on a sandbar in the Clyde recently? 

The rock was, er, unfortunate, and sand bars move

[Sir Tigger KC]

I think the RN have had a few incidents in recent years.  There was a destroyer or Frigate that hit a rock off of Sydney and didn't one of the new Astute class subs get stuck on a sandbar in the Clyde recently? 

The rock was, er, unfortunate, and sand bars move

I doubt that would have been an acceptable excuse in Drake or Nelsons day, let alone in the 21st century with all the technology at their disposal. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

The control systems on ships have to be independent and not connected to anything which could be hacked (e.g. isolated islands), there are also manual direct connect override joysticks....just in case! (Class rules)

It will be 'human error'

But to go playing dodgems around the waters off Singapore, where there are usually 200 plus ships anchored and the another large quantity actually moving.....its a fools game!

[Gaffers]

They cannot drive ANYTHING, and don't know what side of the road to drive on anyway.
Give them a plane and they kill our boys, regularly.
Frightening, isn't it, that such inept people have such power? 

Ron.

Glad to see your big fat paintbrush is out again.

[aaronjb]

The control systems on ships have to be independent and not connected to anything which could be hacked (e.g. isolated islands),

No (military) GPS auto-pilot, then?

[aaronjb]

Glad to see your big fat paintbrush is out again.

C'mon Matt, you know not one American could drive around the outskirts of Milton Keynes as fast as TB in his Silver Bullet...

[Marks DTM Calib]

The control systems on ships have to be independent and not connected to anything which could be hacked (e.g. isolated islands),

No (military) GPS auto-pilot, then?

The auto pilot systems have to be standalone with only hardwired connections to the VMS/DP, even then they are very basic and rarely used unless transiting over open water. Some DP setups have basic integrated auto pilot but again, isolated from any external systems.

Any DP setup will use multiple inputs for position references (GPS is not considered reliable enough) with different setups used for different scenarios.

But there is no great level of integration where a radar setup would detect a potential collision and cause the system to respond, that's down to the operator