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[Raeturbo]

Whatever next🤣

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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

If you can breast feed a baby then you are a biological woman.

If you can give birth to a child then you are a biological woman.

If you have monthly periods then you are a biological woman.

The human race knew this for literally hundreds of thousands of years, but now seems to have forgotten.

[Rangie]

Madness, all this nonsense day after day what happened to normality ?

[Raeturbo]

Indeed, and especially with all that’s going on in the world at the moment too.

[STEMO]

You've seen the signs up in the hospital, the doctors, the dentist, everywhere. Upset a member of staff, or say the wrong thing, and you're cancelled. Or, at least, your appointment is, and deregistered if they feel like it.
It's like living in 1930's Germany.

[Doctor Gollum]

My medical form had a section headed 'Females only'.

It was all about pregnancy and the like.

[STEMO]

My medical form had a section headed 'Females only'.

It was all about pregnancy and the like.

Well......they'll have to do something about that! Females indeed 

[Nick W]

Madness, all this nonsense day after day what happened to normality ?

It's  changed many times since we grew legs and walked out of the sea. Normality by definition is what happens all the time.

[Rangie]

Madness, all this nonsense day after day what happened to normality ?

It's  changed many times since we grew legs and walked out of the sea. Normality by definition is what happens all the time.

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Boll ocks , any sane individual knows what's normal.

[Nick W]

Madness, all this nonsense day after day what happened to normality ?

It's  changed many times since we grew legs and walked out of the sea. Normality by definition is what happens all the time.

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Boll ocks , any sane individual knows what's normal.

You omitted the important essential words for them, at that time. And that changes surprisingly rapidly; just plot what is and isn't socially normal over the last fifty years. Yes, that's a random number for most, but it covers my lifetime.


'Normal' is one of those warning words that should be considered an illustration of the user's prejudices. Some from a very long list are 'everybody knows' and 'communist/socialist/---ist.'

[Rangie]

Yep I'm prejudiced against fuc**d up people trying to tell me what's normal.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

My medical form had a section headed 'Females only'.

It was all about pregnancy and the like.

That is not diverse enough though....men can also give birth these days.

......and lesbian women can impregnate other women with their girl penis.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yes there was an article the other day about an inmate in a woman's prison somewhere in America who managed to impregnate two of her fellow inmates. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Yes there was an article the other day about an inmate in a woman's prison somewhere in America who managed to impregnate two of her fellow inmates. 

Yes.....there was a picture of the young lady in question complete with a week or so of designer stubble.

Still, this individual say they are a woman, so in with the women they go.

Is it too much to ask that bepenised women go in the same prison as other men.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

https://youtu.be/pJiArhPrvks

Is this the one you mean, Tig?

[Sir Tigger KC]

https://youtu.be/pJiArhPrvks

Is this the one you mean, Tig?

That's it!   I like Candice Owens. She talks a lot of sense! 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

https://youtu.be/pJiArhPrvks

Is this the one you mean, Tig?

That's it!   I like Candice Owens. She talks a lot of sense! 

Agreed. Sexy too.

[Doctor Gollum]

Indeed, and especially with all that’s going on in the world at the moment too.

[Raeturbo]

??

[Doctor Gollum]

Donald if I know...

 

[Raeturbo]

Mm, I ducked that one👍😂

[Lizzie Zoom]

Madness, all this nonsense day after day what happened to normality ?

It's  changed many times since we grew legs and walked out of the sea. Normality by definition is what happens all the time.

Indeed.  Throughout history, since the dawn of mankind, what is “normal” has changed, and is applicable for a point in time.  It is defined by the social and political restrictions and demands of the likes of the church, the monarchy, or simply peoples interpretations of what should be considered by all as “normal”. Usually ruled by the leaders of religion or the state, which has been then challenged by ‘the masses’, who have died to achieve their ideals of “normality”. Or died en mass to go along with the “normality” of the state leaders, when in other times the loss of thousands of lives in a day to achieve a return to “normality” aimed for by those same leaders would by utterly condemned at any other time as abnormal and inhuman.

So “normal” is purely a subjective definition at that point in time in human or natural existence which can change as the weather varies from one day to another, with forces that we cannot even imagine at work behind our simple lives that we cannot control as much as we wish we could, that we cannot predict

[Lizzie Zoom]

…………and of course, crucially, science has got to be thrown into the mix of what has been, and is considered normality.  How that has changed over the last 500 years.  What will the next 500 years produce?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Whilst much of that is true, its also the case that much of what has changed in our perception of normality has changed more in the last 25 years than in the previous 500 years, possibly longer.
I think that we should think and consider very carefully before making such major and fast changes to norms which have ben established over such long periods of time.
Its all to easy to throw the bay out with the bath water.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Madness, all this nonsense day after day what happened to normality ?

It's  changed many times since we grew legs and walked out of the sea. Normality by definition is what happens all the time.

Indeed.  Throughout history, since the dawn of mankind, what is “normal” has changed, and is applicable for a point in time.  It is defined by the social and political restrictions and demands of the likes of the church, the monarchy, or simply peoples interpretations of what should be considered by all as “normal”. Usually ruled by the leaders of religion or the state, which has been then challenged by ‘the masses’, who have died to achieve their ideals of “normality”. Or died en mass to go along with the “normality” of the state leaders, when in other times the loss of thousands of lives in a day to achieve a return to “normality” aimed for by those same leaders would by utterly condemned at any other time as abnormal and inhuman.

So “normal” is purely a subjective definition at that point in time in human or natural existence which can change as the weather varies from one day to another, with forces that we cannot even imagine at work behind our simple lives that we cannot control as much as we wish we could, that we cannot predict

The definition of  what 'normal' is has changed over the years in some aspects. We expect that.

However, in the context of this thread it is utter insanity to say it is 'now normal' for men to give birth and it will still be an insane idea 1000 years from now......and I for one will not be going along with this cult like madness.

Dear old Voltaire is always good for a quote. I like this one.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities'.

There are people who are so woke and gullible that they believe 'the new normal' means that 2+2 can actually make 5.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Whilst much of that is true, its also the case that much of what has changed in our perception of normality has changed more in the last 25 years than in the previous 500 years, possibly longer.
I think that we should think and consider very carefully before making such major and fast changes to norms which have ben established over such long periods of time.
Its all to easy to throw the bay out with the bath water.

Some window lickers seem to think there is no such thing as reality.....

https://youtu.be/HIOeosYK1_Q

[Raeturbo]

You can tell me a woman is a man or 2+2 =5 for as long as I have a hole in my arse but I choose reality. There is certainly nothing at all normal about a man ‘chest feeding’ it’s absolutely ridiculous these f@c£ing idiots will destroy civilisation, we need two sexes, male/female. End of.

[Rangie]

You can tell me a woman is a man or 2+2 =5 for as long as I have a hole in my arse but I choose reality. There is certainly nothing at all normal about a man ‘chest feeding’ it’s absolutely ridiculous these f@c£ing idiots will destroy civilisation, we need two sexes, male/female. End of.

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Absolutely spot on , some people certainly talk out of their arseholes, is that also somehow connected to all these changes that are happening?

[Lizzie Zoom]

As I have said many times before, why worry about these cases? Does it really affect you that badly?

There is far more to really worry about currently, especially now the mad cow from the USA has upset the Chinese, and Russians!

I am just thankful for my relatively simple life and the hope I can continue to pay my bills, let alone keeping the Omega going 

[Rangie]

We now live in a world where your kid cannot pretend to be an Indian , but a grown man can pretend to be a woman..

[Sir Tigger KC]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

[Doctor Gollum]

As I have said many times before, why worry about these cases? Does it really affect you that badly?

There is far more to really worry about currently, especially now the mad cow from the USA has upset the Chinese, and Russians!

I am just thankful for my relatively simple life and the hope I can continue to pay my bills, let alone keeping the Omega going 

Individual choice is great, but with it comes responsibility.

Unilateral brainwashing is irresponsible.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

Back in the day butch women were usually lesbians. These days everyone seems to be born in the wrong body.

It's strange but I didn't know one single boy at school who said he was born in the wrong body. There were one or two who used to mince about a bit and were probably homosexual.

[Rangie]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

Back in the day butch women were usually lesbians. These days everyone seems to be born in the wrong body.

It's strange but I didn't know one single boy at school who said he was born in the wrong body. There were one or two who used to mince about a bit and were probably homosexual.

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How very posh , we just called them bummers or homos.😁😁

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Of course time has moved on since then and now men can also be lesbians. Diversity and inclusion.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

Back in the day butch women were usually lesbians. These days everyone seems to be born in the wrong body.

It's strange but I didn't know one single boy at school who said he was born in the wrong body. There were one or two who used to mince about a bit and were probably homosexual.

. 

How very posh , we just called them bummers or homos.😁😁

The word 'fairy' was also in common use.

[STEMO]

In my time it was mostly just 'queer'

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

In my time it was mostly just 'queer'

Queer used to mean poofter. I think these days the definition has been changed by the LGBTQSTRFG alphabet people.

[Doctor Gollum]

I thought J D'A was a witch, or have I missed summat 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

Back in the day butch women were usually lesbians. These days everyone seems to be born in the wrong body.

It's strange but I didn't know one single boy at school who said he was born in the wrong body. There were one or two who used to mince about a bit and were probably homosexual.

That is because in those days gender dysphoria was not generally know about, and those with the condition were too afraid to discuss their feelings with adults as they thought it was just them thinking as they do. 

I have dealt with many in that category, all have spoken about them knowing they were somehow “wrong” at an early age and did not identify with the ‘boy’ or ‘girl’ that people treated them as.  One example did say about their issue to so called experts, then lacking the knowledge of today, and ended up in a padded cell having aversion therapy.  In later life the true “she” transitioned successfully with full medical support.

As I have stated many times before, it is easy to poopoo, degrade, or just make fun of something people are ignorant of

It has nothing to do with the woke ideas of today, but the real life traumas of those dealt a cruel blow by nature.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

Back in the day butch women were usually lesbians. These days everyone seems to be born in the wrong body.

It's strange but I didn't know one single boy at school who said he was born in the wrong body. There were one or two who used to mince about a bit and were probably homosexual.

That is because in those days gender dysphoria was not generally know about, and those with the condition were too afraid to discuss their feelings with adults as they thought it was just them thinking as they do.

I have dealt with many in that category, all have spoken about them knowing they were somehow “wrong” at an early age and did not identify with the ‘boy’ or ‘girl’ that people treated them as.  One example did say about their issue to so called experts, then lacking the knowledge of today, and ended up in a padded cell having aversion therapy.  In later life the true “she” transitioned successfully with full medical support.

As I have stated many times before, it is easy to poopoo, degrade, or just make fun of something people are ignorant of

It has nothing to do with the woke ideas of today, but the real life traumas of those dealt a cruel blow by nature.

No Lizzie. It's because back then it wasn't 'the fashionable fad' it is today.

Boys liked being boys and girls liked being girls.....and boys liked girls, and girls liked boys.

Old fashioned perhaps, but it is how the human race has acted for literally hundreds of thousands of years.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

Back in the day butch women were usually lesbians. These days everyone seems to be born in the wrong body.

It's strange but I didn't know one single boy at school who said he was born in the wrong body. There were one or two who used to mince about a bit and were probably homosexual.

That is because in those days gender dysphoria was not generally know about, and those with the condition were too afraid to discuss their feelings with adults as they thought it was just them thinking as they do.

I have dealt with many in that category, all have spoken about them knowing they were somehow “wrong” at an early age and did not identify with the ‘boy’ or ‘girl’ that people treated them as.  One example did say about their issue to so called experts, then lacking the knowledge of today, and ended up in a padded cell having aversion therapy.  In later life the true “she” transitioned successfully with full medical support.

As I have stated many times before, it is easy to poopoo, degrade, or just make fun of something people are ignorant of

It has nothing to do with the woke ideas of today, but the real life traumas of those dealt a cruel blow by nature.

No Lizzie. It's because back then it wasn't 'the fashionable fad' it is today.

Boys liked being boys and girls liked being girls.....and boys liked girls, and girls liked boys.

Old fashioned perhaps, but it is how the human race has acted for literally hundreds of thousands of years.

No Opti, transgender conditions have been known about and depicted since ancient times, with the first person to undergo gender reassignment was in 1931. As more knowledge has been gained about the condition of gender dysphoria, it has possible for those so affected to receive medical advise and practical assistance to transition.  That has meant far more with the condition have been able to come forward knowing they will be listened to with support, and not derision, given. 

That is to you Opti and others without the knowledge of gender dysphoria, living in your perfect body and mind with no conditions - lucky you!! - cannot perceive or accept that some people are not so blessed.  You just keep hammering away at woke issues, which you are entitled to, but just take on board genuine transgender people, with high emotions and requirements to be correct in form, true to who they really are, has nothing to do with current woke expressions.

But if you want to ignore fact Opti, that is up to you, but please, please, remember that those with gender dysphoria, who as I have said I have dealt with for years and have the full knowledge of, have often suicidal thoughts of hopelessness, on the knife edge of emotion, do not need to read, or hear, the negative thoughts you, and many others, express due to ignorance.

[STEMO]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

Back in the day butch women were usually lesbians. These days everyone seems to be born in the wrong body.

It's strange but I didn't know one single boy at school who said he was born in the wrong body. There were one or two who used to mince about a bit and were probably homosexual.

That is because in those days gender dysphoria was not generally know about, and those with the condition were too afraid to discuss their feelings with adults as they thought it was just them thinking as they do.

I have dealt with many in that category, all have spoken about them knowing they were somehow “wrong” at an early age and did not identify with the ‘boy’ or ‘girl’ that people treated them as.  One example did say about their issue to so called experts, then lacking the knowledge of today, and ended up in a padded cell having aversion therapy.  In later life the true “she” transitioned successfully with full medical support.

As I have stated many times before, it is easy to poopoo, degrade, or just make fun of something people are ignorant of

It has nothing to do with the woke ideas of today, but the real life traumas of those dealt a cruel blow by nature.

No Lizzie. It's because back then it wasn't 'the fashionable fad' it is today.

Boys liked being boys and girls liked being girls.....and boys liked girls, and girls liked boys.

Old fashioned perhaps, but it is how the human race has acted for literally hundreds of thousands of years.

No Opti, transgender conditions have been known about and depicted since ancient times, with the first person to undergo gender reassignment was in 1931. As more knowledge has been gained about the condition of gender dysphoria, it has possible for those so affected to receive medical advise and practical assistance to transition.  That has meant far more with the condition have been able to come forward knowing they will be listened to with support, and not derision, given. 

That is to you Opti and others without the knowledge of gender dysphoria, living in your perfect body and mind with no conditions - lucky you!! - cannot perceive or accept that some people are not so blessed.  You just keep hammering away at woke issues, which you are entitled to, but just take on board genuine transgender people, with high emotions and requirements to be correct in form, true to who they really are, has nothing to do with current woke expressions.

But if you want to ignore fact Opti, that is up to you, but please, please, remember that those with gender dysphoria, who as I have said I have dealt with for years and have the full knowledge of, have often suicidal thoughts of hopelessness, on the knife edge of emotion, do not need to read, or hear, the negative thoughts you, and many others, express due to ignorance.

Just as we don't need to hear about them, constantly, on mainstream media. They are in a very small minority, so should be served by channel number 743 on sky or something.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

Back in the day butch women were usually lesbians. These days everyone seems to be born in the wrong body.

It's strange but I didn't know one single boy at school who said he was born in the wrong body. There were one or two who used to mince about a bit and were probably homosexual.

That is because in those days gender dysphoria was not generally know about, and those with the condition were too afraid to discuss their feelings with adults as they thought it was just them thinking as they do.

I have dealt with many in that category, all have spoken about them knowing they were somehow “wrong” at an early age and did not identify with the ‘boy’ or ‘girl’ that people treated them as.  One example did say about their issue to so called experts, then lacking the knowledge of today, and ended up in a padded cell having aversion therapy.  In later life the true “she” transitioned successfully with full medical support.

As I have stated many times before, it is easy to poopoo, degrade, or just make fun of something people are ignorant of

It has nothing to do with the woke ideas of today, but the real life traumas of those dealt a cruel blow by nature.

No Lizzie. It's because back then it wasn't 'the fashionable fad' it is today.

Boys liked being boys and girls liked being girls.....and boys liked girls, and girls liked boys.

Old fashioned perhaps, but it is how the human race has acted for literally hundreds of thousands of years.

No Opti, transgender conditions have been known about and depicted since ancient times, with the first person to undergo gender reassignment was in 1931. As more knowledge has been gained about the condition of gender dysphoria, it has possible for those so affected to receive medical advise and practical assistance to transition.  That has meant far more with the condition have been able to come forward knowing they will be listened to with support, and not derision, given. 

That is to you Opti and others without the knowledge of gender dysphoria, living in your perfect body and mind with no conditions - lucky you!! - cannot perceive or accept that some people are not so blessed.  You just keep hammering away at woke issues, which you are entitled to, but just take on board genuine transgender people, with high emotions and requirements to be correct in form, true to who they really are, has nothing to do with current woke expressions.

But if you want to ignore fact Opti, that is up to you, but please, please, remember that those with gender dysphoria, who as I have said I have dealt with for years and have the full knowledge of, have often suicidal thoughts of hopelessness, on the knife edge of emotion, do not need to read, or hear, the negative thoughts you, and many others, express due to ignorance.

Just as we don't need to hear about them, constantly, on mainstream media. They are in a very small minority, so should be served by channel number 743 on sky or something.

I totally agree.  It is their private lives, and private it should remain without the media stirring it up all the time

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Apparently the legendary French heroine Joan of Arc might have had man boobs, was non binary and went by the they/them pronouns. 

One feminist wit (if there is such a thing ) wrote on twitter the other day.

Saying Eddie Izzard is definitely NOT a woman, and saying Joan of Arc definitely WAS  a woman, can get you a visit from plod for hate speech. You may then need to attend a Chinese style re-education course (camp) to correct your thinking.

This is where we are today.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Swmbo read an article to me a couple of days ago about a 5 year old holding a gender reveal party.
Dont know what else to say really.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Swmbo read an article to me a couple of days ago about a 5 year old holding a gender reveal party.
Dont know what else to say really.

This kid 'of no fixed gender' will more than likely suffer from mental health issues in the near future.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Swmbo read an article to me a couple of days ago about a 5 year old holding a gender reveal party.
Dont know what else to say really.

https://youtu.be/5PzZwuL-Emw.....

[Doctor Gollum]

https://youtube.com/shorts/06BJlqzkkmw?feature=share