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Title: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 February 2009, 21:04:41
Inside the red circle

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Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: TheBoy on 13 February 2009, 21:24:41
mdtm or kevin wood will know better, but looks like cap to me
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 February 2009, 21:35:08
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mdtm or kevin wood will know better, but looks like cap to me


Waiting for one of those 2

Ended up using wire to replace the track and it works without the possible cap
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: VXL V6 on 13 February 2009, 21:48:16
It looks the same as the one just below on what appears to be the aerial (square spiral type track) so would guess it's a cap as well - maybe used as a filter in the case of the aerial.

Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 February 2009, 23:18:25
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It looks the same as the one just below on what appears to be the aerial (square spiral type track) so would guess it's a cap as well - maybe used as a filter in the case of the aerial.



Well it is going back without one  - I hope it works
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: markey mark on 13 February 2009, 23:23:44
it wont work without it martin its a capictor  :(
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 February 2009, 23:26:25
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it wont work without it martin its a capictor  :(


Why not? - it gets picked up on RF at the correct channel

I expected it not to work but was surprised it did
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: markey mark on 13 February 2009, 23:30:30
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it wont work without it martin its a capictor  :(


Why not? - it gets picked up on RF at the correct channel

I expected it not to work but was surprised it did

well its there for a reason bud ! if its missing so is a part of the cicuit  :(
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 February 2009, 23:47:01
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it wont work without it martin its a capictor  :(


Why not? - it gets picked up on RF at the correct channel

I expected it not to work but was surprised it did

well its there for a reason bud ! if its missing so is a part of the cicuit  :(


Oh well if I knew its value and could get one - I'll see what happens - have emailed and PMed - said suck it and see
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2009, 11:39:40
Its a cermaic cap......looks to be a 10-100nF and probably a de-coupling cap
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 February 2009, 12:07:48
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Its a cermaic cap......looks to be a 10-100nF and probably a de-coupling cap

I'll check Maplins later
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 February 2009, 12:14:43
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Its a cermaic cap......looks to be a 10-100nF and probably a de-coupling cap


How do you learn all this electronics stuff - I'd love to learn more? :'(
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2009, 14:52:54
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Its a cermaic cap......looks to be a 10-100nF and probably a de-coupling cap


How do you learn all this electronics stuff - I'd love to learn more? :'(

5 years as a hobby, 4 years full time at Uni.....then you are ready to learn it (you dont learn the real stuff till you leave!)

11 years later.....and I can design my own stuff well!
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 February 2009, 18:00:36
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Its a cermaic cap......looks to be a 10-100nF and probably a de-coupling cap


How do you learn all this electronics stuff - I'd love to learn more? :'(

5 years as a hobby, 4 years full time at Uni.....then you are ready to learn it (you dont learn the real stuff till you leave!)

11 years later.....and I can design my own stuff well!


I suppose like it takes a good 10 years of programming before you can call yourself one.
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Ian_D on 14 February 2009, 19:44:07
Does look like a cap to me too, but could it also be a resistor? (Or do they normaly have numbers on them?)

You will probably find it will work without it anyways!

Bit like on computer hard drives, often diodes fail (shorted) and you can remove them and continue to use the hard drive again to recover files etc... Wouldn’t use the drive again for anything important though without resoldering another diode in place, even the I would be sceptical!

 :)
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: TheBoy on 14 February 2009, 19:44:16
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Its a cermaic cap......looks to be a 10-100nF and probably a de-coupling cap


How do you learn all this electronics stuff - I'd love to learn more? :'(

5 years as a hobby, 4 years full time at Uni.....then you are ready to learn it (you dont learn the real stuff till you leave!)

11 years later.....and I can design my own stuff well!


I suppose like it takes a good 10 years of programming before you can call yourself one.
Oh, believe me, I know loads of people who's job has been programming for more than 10yrs, but I wouldn't call them a 'programmer' (sorry, they are called developers now I believe)
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: philhoward on 15 February 2009, 12:58:23
Looks like a decoupling cap to me as well - by the looks of the spiral track below it (and assuming the PTH it connects to goes to the cap in question) then it may well be for tuning the range/SNR of the receiver circuit?

BEng in Electrical/Electronic Engineering, 3 years PCB design, 3 years electrical/electronic service on AC & DC drives - now industrial control software engineer before you ask my credentials..
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Tonybazza on 18 February 2009, 00:30:00
I got a badge for camping when i was in the cubs lol  :)
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 18 February 2009, 21:42:32
THe owner PMed to let me know it works :o
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 February 2009, 07:32:27
Which is no surprise as its a decoupling cap......obvious as one end is connected to the star 0V battery connection and the other end is in parralel with what looks to be a tant
Title: Re: What is this? (key fob)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 19 February 2009, 10:09:58
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Which is no surprise as its a decoupling cap......obvious as one end is connected to the star 0V battery connection and the other end is in parralel with what looks to be a tant


If you understand RF circuitry as well as you!