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[TheBoy]

I find it odd that everyone is speaking what they think but the admins. I thought this post was supposed to be dialogue but seems they people running the site dont care  .

Are the admins too busy infighting themselves to care what is happening to the OOF  ?

<snip>

If we are expected to say wot we think is wrong with the OOF then the admins should have the decency to at least join in  . Will we get a reply from the boy or his gang? Doubt it 

mikesomega - rest assured that I am reading every single post in this thread, and I really do care about what members think. Honestly. I suspect the other Admin Team members are reading as well.

I purposely haven't really responded to my views, as I don't want to influence peoples views (which does seem to happen, sadly).

But you'll notice a few pages back, I did summerise what, purely from this thread, I thought the members were saying the problems were.

This thread was intended as a listening exercise, not a two way dialogue for the reasons I stated above.

I hope that clarifies.

(The <snipped> query I may reply to later, not really sure I should make my views known)

[RobG]

I find it odd that everyone is speaking what they think but the admins. I thought this post was supposed to be dialogue but seems they people running the site dont care  .

Are the admins too busy infighting themselves to care what is happening to the OOF  ?

<snip>

If we are expected to say wot we think is wrong with the OOF then the admins should have the decency to at least join in  . Will we get a reply from the boy or his gang? Doubt it 

mikesomega - rest assured that I am reading every single post in this thread, and I really do care about what members think. Honestly. I suspect the other Admin Team members are reading as well.

I purposely haven't really responded to my views, as I don't want to influence peoples views (which does seem to happen, sadly).

But you'll notice a few pages back, I did summerise what, purely from this thread, I thought the members were saying the problems were.

This thread was intended as a listening exercise, not a two way dialogue for the reasons I stated above.

I hope that clarifies.

(The <snipped> query I may reply to later, not really sure I should make my views known)

Not mine

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I find it odd that everyone is speaking what they think but the admins. I thought this post was supposed to be dialogue but seems they people running the site dont care  .

Are the admins too busy infighting themselves to care what is happening to the OOF  ?

<snip>

If we are expected to say wot we think is wrong with the OOF then the admins should have the decency to at least join in  . Will we get a reply from the boy or his gang? Doubt it 

mikesomega - rest assured that I am reading every single post in this thread, and I really do care about what members think. Honestly. I suspect the other Admin Team members are reading as well.

I purposely haven't really responded to my views, as I don't want to influence peoples views (which does seem to happen, sadly).

But you'll notice a few pages back, I did summerise what, purely from this thread, I thought the members were saying the problems were.

This thread was intended as a listening exercise, not a two way dialogue for the reasons I stated above.

I hope that clarifies.

(The <snipped> query I may reply to later, not really sure I should make my views known)

What TB says.

[TheBoy]

Not mine

Feel free to post them here

[RobG]

Not mine

Feel free to post them here

As has been previously posted by some members, the banter & joviality has for whatever reason gradually diminished and has to a certain degree been replaced with argumentative posts on threads as opposed to debateable. Voice an opinion, if someone is in disagreement the thread then degenerates into a slanging match and the articulate members shy away from posting.
Admin I feel, have a challenging, if not sometimes insurmountable task to moderate every thread. IMO they`re damned if they do and damned if they don`t. There have been occasions where Broocie (H21) has forgotten he`s no longer a serving member of the constabulary and dons his "plod" hat, but I/we just accept the old adage "once a copper always a copper"
It still appears that the thorn in the side of many members is this thread http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=100127.0
where the actions of mods/admin were akin to using a "sledgehammer to crack a nut"

[Dishevelled Den]

It may alarm those in the general Forum membership reading some of the opinions expressed on this thread that the Forum is in somewhat of a hole at the moment - please do not worry, the Administrators and Moderators are looking into it.

[RobG]

It may alarm those in the general Forum membership reading some of the opinions expressed on this thread that the Forum in somewhat of a hole at the moment - please do not worry, the Administrators and Moderators are looking into it.

Admin dig team perchance

[hotel21]

Not mine

Feel free to post them here

....... There have been occasions where Broocie (H21) has forgotten he`s no longer a serving member of the constabulary and dons his "plod" hat, but I/we just accept the old adage "once a copper always a copper" .....

And if I had been a manager in HR, a member of the military with troops to contend with or any other similar position and thereafter became a moderator/admin on an internet forum, would that make any difference to how something is moderated?

Or is there something in how folks perceive my previous career as something that should be treated differently to any other vocation?

Just because someone worked as a joiner/plumber/manager/whatever for the better part of their working lives.  So what?

I really would appreciate if you want to expand on your quote.   

[RobG]

would that make any difference to how something is moderated?

Where did I say you moderated as if you were still in service

folks perceive my previous career as something that should be treated differently to any other vocation?

That wasn`t mentioned.

Just because someone worked as a joiner/plumber/manager/whatever for the better part of their working lives.  So what?

Doesn`t make an iota of difference.

I was not referring to your admin duties as a whole but there have been a fair few of your posts (and no, I haven`t the time nor inclination to search for them ) where it appears, no doubt unintentionally, that a sprinkling of patronisation is evident. I may be wrong but that`s how I and other members have perceived them. If said members wish to add further comments in agreement or disagreement that is their perogative

[hotel21]

Fair play, you did not mention moderation but that was how it was taken by me. 

As regards how folks take my posts that is of course entirely their prerogative but bear in mind, it is a bit like tracer rounds. It works both ways.      As we all grow older we become what we are due to life's influences. Some good, some less so, and is what makes us all different. The typed page and limited emoticons simply cannot clearly convey what's intended all the time. But that's just how it is and where meets are the best way to see the real person and the catalyst for friendships which then spill back onto the forum and the whole cycle starts again. 

[RobG]

Fair play, you did not mention moderation but that was how it was taken by me. 

As regards how folks take my posts that is of course entirely their prerogative but bear in mind, it is a bit like tracer rounds. It works both ways.      As we all grow older we become what we are due to life's influences. Some good, some less so, and is what makes us all different. The typed page and limited emoticons simply cannot clearly convey what's intended all the time. But that's just how it is and where meets are the best way to see the real person and the catalyst for friendships which then spill back onto the forum and the whole cycle starts again. 

should have been a bit more articulate
Got loads of `em here.

[feeutfo]

It may alarm those in the general Forum membership reading some of the opinions expressed on this thread that the Forum in somewhat of a hole at the moment - please do not worry, the Administrators and Moderators are looking into it.

Admin dig team perchance

[mikesomega]

Sorry I was wrong.

It did feel like everyone was saying what the faults were but no1 listening.

[mikesomega]

And if you read his posts, he asked not to be a moderator any more

It's a huge shame that DLK has decided the actions he has and I will be very sad not to see him at the meets. He's one of the people I've met through OOF over the last 4 years or so that I class as a friend (instead of an acquaintance) but I respect his decision I know that he and I will still meet up whenever our paths cross and it can be arranged and I'm sure I'll hear his voice over the phone reasonably frequently

Unfortunately the whole sorry incident is going to be hanging over this forum for a while. This is a big shame because (however you feel about the situation) there was no real "good" outcome when there was such ill feeling I know Jimbob made a decision based on what he perceived to be the right course of action. Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't. But it has highlighted that having your partner as a member when you are moderating is an awkward and uncomfortable position to find yourself in That situation has now been resolved with the unfortunate loss of a member Ljay and I may not have always seen eye to eye but it's still sad to lose a member Personally I didn't see anything wrong with the comment that sparked it all  After all, Ljay has posted similar many times in the past But it sparked a dreadful sequence of events that has ended as it has. Perhaps the whole thing could have been handled differently but this is the real world and we need to move forwards... The past cannot be changed

So you think looknee jumped and wasnot pushed? Interesting. I sense some squabbling with the admins.

It is a bloody travesty what has happened or at least seems that way to an outsider with a keen eye to bullying. If I am write its a f***ing disgrace.

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