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[STEMO]

Imagine being an American, and being asked to choose between Trump or Biden. We've all read about Donalds trials and tribulations in the news recently, but this is possibly worse:

https://news.sky.com/story/president-joe-biden-wilfully-disclosed-classified-information-but-wont-face-criminal-charges-13067069

[dave the builder]

Imagine being an BRITISH, and being asked to choose between THE SHOWER OF S**T We've all read about 

[ronnyd]

Special Council Robert Hur, I wonder if he has a brother called Ben? 

[Mister Rog]

Even at the last US election I was staggered that Trump and Biden were the best that the good 'ol US of A could come up with.

And now, with a UK general election looming, I ask myself the same question.

It seems that politics has been reduced to having to try and choose from the least bad, not the actual best

[Doctor Gollum]

Every facet of the world we occupy has been dumbed down to the barest minimum required.

[STEMO]

Even at the last US election I was staggered that Trump and Biden were the best that the good 'ol US of A could come up with.

And now, with a UK general election looming, I ask myself the same question.

It seems that politics has been reduced to having to try and choose from the least bad, not the actual best

That's always been the case, Rog. I don't think I've ever fully supported any party I've voted for in the past.

[STEMO]

Imagine being an BRITISH, and being asked to choose between THE SHOWER OF S**T We've all read about 

Maybe, but with our role in world affairs amounting to no more than kissing America's arse, it really doesn't matter to the rest of the world who's in charge here.

[Rangie]

We are all doomed..

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Imagine being an BRITISH, and being asked to choose between THE SHOWER OF S**T We've all read about 

Maybe, but with our role in world affairs amounting to no more than kissing America's arse, it really doesn't matter to the rest of the world who's in charge here.

More licking than kissing.

[Doctor Gollum]

We are all doomed..

Pseudo middle classed whining never achieved anything.

[Rangie]

Even at the last US election I was staggered that Trump and Biden were the best that the good 'ol US of A could come up with.

And now, with a UK general election looming, I ask myself the same question.

It seems that politics has been reduced to having to try and choose from the least bad, not the actual best

That's always been the case, Rog. I don't think I've ever fully supported any party I've voted for in the past.

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I can't work up any enthusiasm for any of the parties , a complete shower of shit all of them .

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Reform UK for me.

[Rangie]

Reform UK for me.

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They talk a lot of sense but don't think they will get anywhere unfortunately.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Even at the last US election I was staggered that Trump and Biden were the best that the good 'ol US of A could come up with.

And now, with a UK general election looming, I ask myself the same question.

It seems that politics has been reduced to having to try and choose from the least bad, not the actual best

That's always been the case, Rog. I don't think I've ever fully supported any party I've voted for in the past.

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I can't work up any enthusiasm for any of the parties , a complete shower of shit all of them .

Agreed. I have nothing but complete and utter contempt for the lot of them.

Reform UK for me.

Yes I think they will get my vote this time round as I don't think I can bring myself to vote for the Tories after the complete and utter shitshow they have presided over.

As they say, if you want change you have to vote for it. 

Here's the thing though. If Reform did manage to win the election and form a government, I bet they wouldn't get much past the permastate/blob/establishment and they wouldn't get much done either.

[STEMO]

All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.

[Doctor Gollum]

All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.

And that simply cannot happen.

[TheBoy]

All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.

And that simply cannot happen.

We all know he will be the next PM, unless he oppss up badly between now and then.

[Sir Tigger KC]

All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.

And that simply cannot happen.

We all know he will be the next PM, unless he oppss up badly between now and then.

Yep and so the Tories deserve to be totally annihilated for what they have done over the last 5 years. 

[Doctor Gollum]

All a vote for reform will do is ensure Starmer gets in with a working majority.

And that simply cannot happen.

We all know he will be the next PM, unless he oppss up badly between now and then.

Yep and so the Tories deserve to be totally annihilated for what they have done over the last 5 years. 

Not disputing that, but SKS is a double shit sandwich with extra shit, and I would rather have the shit and cheese wrap.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The Tories are dead in the water. They deserve to lose badly, although the country doesnt deserve Labour in power.
Its going to happen though, and the Tory party needs to either die out completely, or reinvent itself as a genuine conservative and unionist party.
Plenty of votes for Reform, will concentrate the minds of those responsible for rebuilding the Tory party and ensure it goes in the right direction.
There is no point in holding your nose and voting Tory to try and keep Labour out of power.
It just aint going to happen. Its gone way beyond that now.

[STEMO]

The Tories are dead in the water. They deserve to lose badly, although the country doesnt deserve Labour in power.
Its going to happen though, and the Tory party needs to either die out completely, or reinvent itself as a genuine conservative and unionist party.
Plenty of votes for Reform, will concentrate the minds of those responsible for rebuilding the Tory party and ensure it goes in the right direction.
There is no point in holding your nose and voting Tory to try and keep Labour out of power.
It just aint going to happen. Its gone way beyond that now.

I'm afraid if, or when, labour get into office, they'll be there for a very long time. Or at least until we're past caring.

[TheBoy]

The Tories are dead in the water. They deserve to lose badly, although the country doesnt deserve Labour in power.
Its going to happen though, and the Tory party needs to either die out completely, or reinvent itself as a genuine conservative and unionist party.
Plenty of votes for Reform, will concentrate the minds of those responsible for rebuilding the Tory party and ensure it goes in the right direction.
There is no point in holding your nose and voting Tory to try and keep Labour out of power.
It just aint going to happen. Its gone way beyond that now.

Society in the UK, for reasons that sane people can't understand, have all turned leftie.  And half the tories, especially those that artificially won a seat  last time are chasing those leftie-centre votes.  The other (probably smaller) half of the tories remain more to the right.  So, as always when they have been in power for a couple of terms, they have self destructed.

Reform is just a sure way to get Labour in, and that braindead idiot Farage knows it. Moronic self-abuser.

[STEMO]

The Tories are dead in the water. They deserve to lose badly, although the country doesnt deserve Labour in power.
Its going to happen though, and the Tory party needs to either die out completely, or reinvent itself as a genuine conservative and unionist party.
Plenty of votes for Reform, will concentrate the minds of those responsible for rebuilding the Tory party and ensure it goes in the right direction.
There is no point in holding your nose and voting Tory to try and keep Labour out of power.
It just aint going to happen. Its gone way beyond that now.

Society in the UK, for reasons that sane people can't understand, have all turned leftie.  And half the tories, especially those that artificially won a seat  last time are chasing those leftie-centre votes.  The other (probably smaller) half of the tories remain more to the right.  So, as always when they have been in power for a couple of terms, they have self destructed.

Reform is just a sure way to get Labour in, and that braindead idiot Farage knows it. Moronic self-abuser.

He makes a good living from it and gets more air time than Sunak. Can't begrudge a man his wages.