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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STEMO on 20 January 2022, 19:51:55
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A few months back, schools in England received an email asking if they would like some masks, from the government, free. Yes please they said. Today, the government announced that children were no longer required to wear masks in school. Also today, boxes with 2000 face masks started arriving at schools across the country. One headteacher, who knows my wife well, texted her to say that hers had arrived. The school only has 130 kids.
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They can have a clean one every working day for the next three weeks then, they will need them it's blatantly obvious, the school's round here are rife with it
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They can have a clean one every working day for the next three weeks then, they will need them it's blatantly obvious, the school's round here are rife with it
Primary school kids don't wear masks, which makes it even more silly. They're just getting shut to save space because tipping them would look really bad ;D
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My missus has made a Jenga on her dresser upstairs with all the LFDs she's taken over the last few months. It's fickin huge and I'm dying to knock it over ;D
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My missus has made a Jenga on her dresser upstairs with all the LFDs she's taken over the last few months. It's fickin huge and I'm dying to knock it over ;D
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The rules have changed so many times that we really have no clue what is going on, we just try to be careful but still go out just use a bit of commonsense.
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Forward planning
for when mask wearing becomes mandatory again ,after the no need for masks anymore in a weeks time :P
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Clearly prep for Covid 21?!
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Clearly prep for Covid 21?!
it's 2022 ::)
Covid 19 = discovered manufactured and released in 2019
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Forward planning
for when mask wearing becomes mandatory again ,after the no need for masks anymore in a weeks time :P
It actually killed less than 20,000 people in the UK, so please explain what wearing a mask actually achieves beyond using fear to control people...
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Forward planning
for when mask wearing becomes mandatory again ,after the no need for masks anymore in a weeks time :P
It actually killed less than 20,000 people in the UK, so please explain what wearing a mask actually achieves beyond using fear to control people...
Ooo that's contentious! :o ::) ;D
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Forward planning
for when mask wearing becomes mandatory again ,after the no need for masks anymore in a weeks time :P
It actually killed less than 20,000 people in the UK, so please explain what wearing a mask actually achieves beyond using fear to control people...
BUT...
Hospitals full to overflowing with people NEEDING treatment for Covid 19 meant that 175,000 excess deaths where recorded.
Wearing masks reduced transmission of Covid 19 , freeing up beds for other illnesses
Try and engage your brain occasionally ::)
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That number is actually 127,704 against the five year average. And the hospitals are always overwhelmed by something* :-X
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Clearly prep for Covid 21?!
it's 2022 ::)
Covid 19 = discovered manufactured and released in 2019
Ah but it was released last year but hasn’t got numbers yet! It will probably be given a catchy name like OhmeBoris.
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Wearing masks reduced transmission of Covid 19 , freeing up beds for other illnesses
Is the answer to your question
That number is actually 127,704 against the five year average. And the hospitals are always overwhelmed by something* :-X
You are just like the MSM you love to slag off so much ::)
there IS a bigger picture ,not just a clickbait headline
the 175,000 is a good indication of deaths due to the Covid 19 pandemic
not a yearly number
of the 330 deaths recorded today, I imagine not many died purely of Covid ,if any .
with treatment you may well recover or die weeks or months after a positive Covid test .
but there is several thousand patients in hospital receiving treatment for Covid 19
that means several thousand hospital beds taken up that could be used to treat cancer etc .
so to summarise ....
175,000 people could still be alive if Covid 19 hadn't happened
the true figures may never be known
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I think covid is going to be responsible for the death of my brother but, of course, I can't say that for certain. I think, if he'd have been able to attend the doctor's surgery, and had a referral for tests, his cancer may have been treatable. But he had to make do with haemorrhoid cream for four months, because covid fûcked the system up.
So it didn't cause the cancer, it just stopped him getting treatment for it.
He won't be on the death's within 28 days when he goes, but it may have caused his death. So no figures for people like him.
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Sadly I have relatives and friends in similar situations :(
which is why I try and debunk the "masks don't do any good" tripe people sprout
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For 5 months or so last year England was the only country in Europe without a mask mandate until the government panicked over Omicon and brought in 'Plan B' reinstating the mask mandate.
Most other European countries had much stricter restrictions than England. France for example, a comparable country with a similar population had a mask mandate much stricter. People even have to wear them outside! So you'd think that their infection rates would be much lower than England's. No? ???
For the last three days France has recorded over 400,000 new infections each day, and they are doing about half the amount of tests that we do here in the UK.
18th Jan - 464,769
19th Jan - 436,167
20th Jan - 425,183
So yes masks work.............. ::)
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For 5 months or so last year England was the only country in Europe without a mask mandate until the government panicked over Omicon and brought in 'Plan B' reinstating the mask mandate.
Most other European countries had much stricter restrictions than England. France for example, a comparable country with a similar population had a mask mandate much stricter. People even have to wear them outside! So you'd think that their infection rates would be much lower than England's. No? ???
For the last three days France has recorded over 400,000 new infections each day, and they are doing about half the amount of tests that we do here in the UK.
18th Jan - 464,769
19th Jan - 436,167
20th Jan - 425,183
So yes masks work.............. ::)
Not anymore - France are doing roughly double the number of tests that we are now doing. Which one reason why their positive test numbers are through the roof. The UK has basically stopped testing now - and surprise surprise the numbers are dropping.
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TCV is being used as an excuse to provide a woeful service across the board. Once Ton E B Liar and his innumerate accountant spent all the money on the tree the NHS motto may as well be "Strive to be worse".
It took a fortnight for a neighbour to get a doctor to entertain the concept of returning a call. When they finally were able to speak to someone, a CT scan was arranged in short order and it turns out that he has terminal cancer.
Would seeing a doctor two weeks previously have helped any? Who knows.
But this isn't a new issue, five years ago, my Dad was seriously ill for six months and they didn't find out why until his autopsy in spite of his spending almost a month in Aberdeen Royal Infirmary.
Received an NHS survey today... Multiple choice answers, but not one question has an applicable answer... eg "How easy is it to speak to a Doctor? a) really easy; b) easy; c) quite easy..." The actual answer is very difficult, but it isn't an option ::)
It's almost as though they don't actually want to acknowledge the true state of the NHS. They even have the gall, having posted the survey out, to ask that you complete it online because it's cheaper for them.
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For 5 months or so last year England was the only country in Europe without a mask mandate until the government panicked over Omicon and brought in 'Plan B' reinstating the mask mandate.
Most other European countries had much stricter restrictions than England. France for example, a comparable country with a similar population had a mask mandate much stricter. People even have to wear them outside! So you'd think that their infection rates would be much lower than England's. No? ???
For the last three days France has recorded over 400,000 new infections each day, and they are doing about half the amount of tests that we do here in the UK.
18th Jan - 464,769
19th Jan - 436,167
20th Jan - 425,183
So yes masks work.............. ::)
Almost as effective as those lock downs in Wales and Scotland.
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Similar experiences here DG. The NHS is totally f*cked and is the most expensive white elephant in the history of the world as far as Im concerned.
But its the new Opium of the people and we shouldnt say stuff like this.
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For 5 months or so last year England was the only country in Europe without a mask mandate until the government panicked over Omicon and brought in 'Plan B' reinstating the mask mandate.
Most other European countries had much stricter restrictions than England. France for example, a comparable country with a similar population had a mask mandate much stricter. People even have to wear them outside! So you'd think that their infection rates would be much lower than England's. No? ???
For the last three days France has recorded over 400,000 new infections each day, and they are doing about half the amount of tests that we do here in the UK.
18th Jan - 464,769
19th Jan - 436,167
20th Jan - 425,183
So yes masks work.............. ::)
Not anymore - France are doing roughly double the number of tests that we are now doing. Which one reason why their positive test numbers are through the roof. The UK has basically stopped testing now - and surprise surprise the numbers are dropping.
On 19th Jan the UK did 1,539,546 tests of which 107,792 (7%) were positive.
Best data I can find in a quick look for France for 19th Jan is that they recorded 436,167 positive tests which was 24.4% of the total, suggesting they carried out something like 1,787,568 tests.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Coronavirus-Daily-updates-on-the-situation-in-France
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For 5 months or so last year England was the only country in Europe without a mask mandate until the government panicked over Omicon and brought in 'Plan B' reinstating the mask mandate.
Most other European countries had much stricter restrictions than England. France for example, a comparable country with a similar population had a mask mandate much stricter. People even have to wear them outside! So you'd think that their infection rates would be much lower than England's. No? ???
For the last three days France has recorded over 400,000 new infections each day, and they are doing about half the amount of tests that we do here in the UK.
18th Jan - 464,769
19th Jan - 436,167
20th Jan - 425,183
So yes masks work.............. ::)
Not anymore - France are doing roughly double the number of tests that we are now doing. Which one reason why their positive test numbers are through the roof. The UK has basically stopped testing now - and surprise surprise the numbers are dropping.
On 19th Jan the UK did 1,539,546 tests of which 107,792 (7%) were positive.
Best data I can find in a quick look for France for 19th Jan is that they recorded 436,167 positive tests which was 24.4% of the total, suggesting they carried out something like 1,787,568 tests.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Coronavirus-Daily-updates-on-the-situation-in-France
I think its true that the French are roughly 2 weeks behind the UK in this latest wave of Omicron infections. We now appear to be past peak, but they're still on the way up.
According to friends in the Alps, the French are using pharmacy administered PCR tests to confirm infection. We've stopped doing that - basically home LFT only. IMV PCR tests pick up infection earlier, and continue to pick it up later which results in higher detection rates. Also 12-17 y/o who aren't double vaxxed yet but want to access public facilities in France (including outdoor ski-lifts) have to be LFT tested daily to get their Pass Vaccinaire QR code. 20% of that age group aren't yet double vaxxed.
Of the 1.5Million tests the UK did on 19th Jan, only 455K were PCR. I can't find where I read it, but French PCR testing was running at 1.2M per day.
So I would contend that the testing regimes are significantly different, and therefore direct comparison of numbers is difficult verging on impossible. There is also politics at play. Announce huge numbers of infections to scare the remainder of the population who aren't yet double jabbed plus booster to get their remaining jabs. I'll bet the rates all fall before the French elections in Feb. ::)
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For 5 months or so last year England was the only country in Europe without a mask mandate until the government panicked over Omicon and brought in 'Plan B' reinstating the mask mandate.
Most other European countries had much stricter restrictions than England. France for example, a comparable country with a similar population had a mask mandate much stricter. People even have to wear them outside! So you'd think that their infection rates would be much lower than England's. No? ???
For the last three days France has recorded over 400,000 new infections each day, and they are doing about half the amount of tests that we do here in the UK.
18th Jan - 464,769
19th Jan - 436,167
20th Jan - 425,183
So yes masks work.............. ::)
The French are doing loads more tests, and even more so since the Buffoon is trying to deflect attention, and tell its all over, and winding down PCR testing, and suggesting that LFTs will also be gone in a few weeks.
And, what a surprise, the UK official daily infection rates have plummeted.
The scientists have proven that the Omnicron variant is 3 times less likely to put you into intensive care than Delta variant. Which is good :). But, we were running at over 3 times the previous peak of daily infections. Obviously, we also have the added advantage that more of the population have been vaccinated.
Another risk of running at such high levels of infection is there will be more mutations. They could be milder, they could be more dangerous. If they manage to escape the vaccines, even the mild ones can be dangerous.
So our leaders are playing Russian Roulette with the population, because he'd already lost his party before the last month's worth of revelations.
As for GB News, its started out promising, but sadly has become just like the BBC/CH4 news, going for sensationalism rather than journalism, albeit it with a more palatable middle right bias.
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Another risk of running at such high levels of infection is there will be more mutations. They could be milder, they could be more dangerous. If they manage to escape the vaccines, even the mild ones can be dangerous.
I don't buy that particular argument. There are 7 billion people in the world, and less than 70 million in the UK. Even if the UK forced everyone into home isolation for a month that would only reduce the pool of potential mutation hosts by 1%. Random mutations would still occur in the other 99% of the worlds population, and as we've seen there is basically no way of keeping viruses out of the UK so it would get here sooner or later.
Lifeforms evolve. Viruses evolve. It's what they do. Thinking you can stop this is denying Darwinism.
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For 5 months or so last year England was the only country in Europe without a mask mandate until the government panicked over Omicon and brought in 'Plan B' reinstating the mask mandate.
Most other European countries had much stricter restrictions than England. France for example, a comparable country with a similar population had a mask mandate much stricter. People even have to wear them outside! So you'd think that their infection rates would be much lower than England's. No? ???
For the last three days France has recorded over 400,000 new infections each day, and they are doing about half the amount of tests that we do here in the UK.
18th Jan - 464,769
19th Jan - 436,167
20th Jan - 425,183
So yes masks work.............. ::)
The French are doing loads more tests, and even more so since the Buffoon is trying to deflect attention, and tell its all over, and winding down PCR testing, and suggesting that LFTs will also be gone in a few weeks.
And, what a surprise, the UK official daily infection rates have plummeted.
The scientists have proven that the Omnicron variant is 3 times less likely to put you into intensive care than Delta variant. Which is good :). But, we were running at over 3 times the previous peak of daily infections. Obviously, we also have the added advantage that more of the population have been vaccinated.
Another risk of running at such high levels of infection is there will be more mutations. They could be milder, they could be more dangerous. If they manage to escape the vaccines, even the mild ones can be dangerous.
So our leaders are playing Russian Roulette with the population, because he'd already lost his party before the last month's worth of revelations.
As for GB News, its started out promising, but sadly has become just like the BBC/CH4 news, going for sensationalism rather than journalism, albeit it with a more palatable middle right bias.
I agree up to a point. I thought it started off very shaky, a bit like the early days of channel 4. It launched too early , before it was ready imo.
It has now become more professional but also a bit middle of the road, albeit as you say, right of centre.
I was hoping for something more radical to counter all the other left leaning bias on TV news channels.
Andrew Neil was a huge loss, almost before it got off the ground.
He is the king of Political Journalists imo, and is what is sadly missing in the largely mediocre Journalism they currently have.
Having said all of that, I will always watch it for news as opposed to BBC / SKY / C4 etc.
Its journalists may be a bit mediocre, but they arent the utter disgrace to their profession we find on the other news channels.
They do make a reasonable attempt at balance.
Even Farage has his political enemies on his programme and has grown up discussion with them rather than a shouting match.
Stella Creasy is on there currently, talking shite about bringing babies to work. ::)
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Forward planning
for when mask wearing becomes mandatory again ,after the no need for masks anymore in a weeks time :P
It actually killed less than 20,000 people in the UK, so please explain what wearing a mask actually achieves beyond using fear to control people...
I heard the figure of 17000 over two years with an average age of 82.5 years dropped dead from covid alone......although at 82.5 years they probably dropped dead of old age with a touch of covid. :)
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All of us are going to die eventually , so I am now at the point where I couldn't give a shit about figures released do people honestly think they can believe a word that is reported from government agencies ? Get on with life as best as possible and don't worry about anything ,certainly not numbers plucked out of the air.
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^^what he said^^👍
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Apparently Meatloaf refused to wear a mask. He died of Covid a couple of days ago. ::)
The point of wearing a mask to me is that my breathe could pass Covid on to someone very vulnerable and it might kill them.
Call me old fashioned, but I wouldnt want to do that.
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He moved from California back to Texas a few years ago because he refused to be dictated to. Although I would add, that the family released no cause of death and he has been on the seriously ill side of unwell for almost two decades.
To say he died of Covid could be considered politicising his death.
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Apparently Meatloaf refused to wear a mask. He died of Covid a couple of days ago. ::)
The point of wearing a mask to me is that my breathe could pass Covid on to someone very vulnerable and it might kill them.
Call me old fashioned, but I wouldnt want to do that.
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Foolish man, thought at his age he may have had a little bit of commonsense but lots of fools around & unfortunately appear to be on the increase.
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From 2019... https://twitter.com/RealMeatLoaf/status/1088584970178826241?t=aQ94q5CZyKSbTNg9TyGsCA&s=19
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From 2019... https://twitter.com/RealMeatLoaf/status/1088584970178826241?t=aQ94q5CZyKSbTNg9TyGsCA&s=19
He died of covid, Donald.
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From 2019... https://twitter.com/RealMeatLoaf/status/1088584970178826241?t=aQ94q5CZyKSbTNg9TyGsCA&s=19
He died of covid, Donald.
Says who?
Meat Loaf died on the evening of January 20, 2022 in Nashville, Tennessee, at the age of 74; no cause of death has been announced.
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From 2019... https://twitter.com/RealMeatLoaf/status/1088584970178826241?t=aQ94q5CZyKSbTNg9TyGsCA&s=19
He died of covid, Donald.
Says who?
Meat Loaf died on the evening of January 20, 2022 in Nashville, Tennessee, at the age of 74; no cause of death has been announced.
Says me
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But wait, I'm hearing stories that he may have been abducted by aliens and given an experimental Martian virus. Nothing to contradict this in any of the media.
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But wait, I'm hearing stories that he may have been abducted by aliens and given an experimental Martian virus. Nothing to contradict this in any of the media.
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Yes I've heard that as well, mind you some folk believe everything they read to be true..😄😄😄 it's very difficult to decide.
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He was diagnosed with Wolff Parkinson White syndrome in 2003.
One of the more serious implications is an increased probability of sudden cardiac arrest... aka death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolff%E2%80%93Parkinson%E2%80%93White_syndrome
He may or may not have had TCV at the time of death.
There was always a chance that every time he collapsed on stage or afterwards would be the last time.
He actually collapsed as early as November '77 during a live broadcast of a gig at the Bottom Line in Greenwich Village much to the shock of the host.
IF he died as a direct result of TCV and was unvaccinated, then that was clearly a choice he made. Whether you agree with that choice or not is irrelevant as it wasn't your choice to make.
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He was diagnosed with Wolff Parkinson White syndrome in 2003.
One of the more serious implications is an increased probability of sudden cardiac arrest... aka death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolff%E2%80%93Parkinson%E2%80%93White_syndrome
He may or may not have had TCV at the time of death.
There was always a chance that every time he collapsed on stage or afterwards would be the last time.
He actually collapsed as early as November '77 during a live broadcast of a gig at the Bottom Line in Greenwich Village much to the shock of the host.
IF he died as a direct result of TCV and was unvaccinated, then that was clearly a choice he made. Whether you agree with that choice or not is irrelevant as it wasn't your choice to make.
:-\ :-\ I can't find anything that anyone has said on here about his vaccination status.
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He died of covid, btw ;D
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He died of covid, btw ;D
You put two and two together and keep coming up with 379.51 ::)
In an interview with the Daily Mail in 2021, he called Greta Thunberg "brainwashed" due to her views on climate change.[133]
He was critical of restrictions brought about in reaction to the COVID-19 pandemic, telling the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in August 2021, "I hug people in the middle of COVID ... I understood stopping life for a little while, but they cannot continue to stop life because of politics." He described a person who called for people on airplanes to wear masks as a "Nazi" and "power-mad". Meat Loaf then said: "If I die, I die, but I’m not going to be controlled."[134][135]
Death
Meat Loaf died in Nashville, Tennessee on the evening of January 20, 2022, at the age of 74; no cause of death has been announced.[136][137][138] His daughter had posted to Instagram on January 7: "We are not sick, but we have too many friends and family testing positive right now, positive but doing ok".[135]
The last quote was actually his daughter's comments, not a suggestion that he had TCV.
I chose to be vaccinated, but I respect his choice not to (if indeed he wasn't) and have to say I agree with his published views on the overreaction to TCV.
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No, definitely covid. I'm happy with that. :)
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No, definitely covid. I'm happy with that. :)
If anyone offered him the jab he'd be gone like a bat out of hell.
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No, definitely covid. I'm happy with that. :)
If anyone offered him the jab he'd be gone like a bat out of hell.
He would have done anything to stop catching covid be he won't do that.
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No, definitely covid. I'm happy with that. :)
If anyone offered him the jab he'd be gone like a bat out of hell.
He would have done anything to stop catching covid be he won't do that.[/highlight]
Two out of three ain't bad.
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For crying out loud :-X
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For crying out loud :-X
;D ;D
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For crying out loud :-X said her Dad.
She's barely 17 and she's barely dressed. ;D
I'll fetch my coat. ;)
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Well he was gone when the morning came ::)
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Covid jab by the dashboard light. :-[
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To add to the masks, and this is really ridiculous, the school has now received nine air purifiers. Wifey looked online and they are £1900 each. Jeez.......
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To add to the masks, and this is really ridiculous, the school has now received nine air purifiers. Wifey looked online and they are £1900 each. Jeez.......
Plan B measures dropped and we have to live with Covid (or die with it :-X)
the WHO and top scientists have said don't just treat Covid as FLU ,it's more serious AND mask wearing is very important .
Record number of 6-17 year-olds being admitted to hospital with Covid (https://www.aol.co.uk/news/weve-failed-record-number-6-175118366.html)
highest ever infection in the community .
Another variant twice as transmittable as Omicron spreading like wildfire.
Every new infection is a possible mutation .
No one can guarantee that new mutations won't get more deadly despite the optimism .
no one knows the long term effects of Covid or vaccines
So £10,000 spent on reducing Virus and improving air quality in the air in a school is peanuts*
*Compared to hospital /NHS costs , Teachers & parents having time off work etc etc
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To add to the masks, and this is really ridiculous, the school has now received nine air purifiers. Wifey looked online and they are £1900 each. Jeez.......
Plan B measures dropped and we have to live with Covid (or die with it :-X)
the WHO and top scientists have said don't just treat Covid as FLU ,it's more serious AND mask wearing is very important .
Record number of 6-17 year-olds being admitted to hospital with Covid (https://www.aol.co.uk/news/weve-failed-record-number-6-175118366.html)
highest ever infection in the community .
Another variant twice as transmittable as Omicron spreading like wildfire.
Every new infection is a possible mutation .
No one can guarantee that new mutations won't get more deadly despite the optimism .
no one knows the long term effects of Covid or vaccines
So £10,000 spent on reducing Virus and improving air quality in the air in a school is peanuts*
*Compared to hospital /NHS costs , Teachers & parents having time off work etc etc
Do the maths, Dave. 9x1900.
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Went to board my flight to Milan on Wednesday, only to be told I had the wrong mask. Apparently my British made surgical mask isn't good enough ??? and the Italian government have decided that only one mask type is suitable and they've made it law that all passengers arriving to or departing from Italy must have this mask.
Not a problem, there's a vending machine next to the checkpoint which sells the "correct" type for a fiver. Apparently if it sells out you can't get on the flight, even though you still* have to wear a mask inside the airport. Yes, I did use the same mask on the return flight :-X
The silliness doesn't stop there though. Once on the plane, Italian law requires that any loose clothing such as jackets/coats etc can only be placed in the overhead lockers if they are in bags, otherwise they must be worn or placed under the seat in front. Apparently this is due to Covid hygiene ??? Wtf is the logic behind that? You can put bags in the locker that have been traipse all over the place but you have to put your coat on the floor because it's unhygienic :o
Was nice to not wear a mask into Tescos.
*They made it a byelaw that you have to wear a mask inside the terminal buildings and airport buses which no longer reflects with the law of the land :-X
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To add to the masks, and this is really ridiculous, the school has now received nine air purifiers. Wifey looked online and they are £1900 each. Jeez.......
Plan B measures dropped and we have to live with Covid (or die with it :-X)
the WHO and top scientists have said don't just treat Covid as FLU ,it's more serious AND mask wearing is very important .
Record number of 6-17 year-olds being admitted to hospital with Covid (https://www.aol.co.uk/news/weve-failed-record-number-6-175118366.html)
highest ever infection in the community .
Another variant twice as transmittable as Omicron spreading like wildfire.
Every new infection is a possible mutation .
No one can guarantee that new mutations won't get more deadly despite the optimism .
no one knows the long term effects of Covid or vaccines
So £10,000 spent on reducing Virus and improving air quality in the air in a school is peanuts*
*Compared to hospital /NHS costs , Teachers & parents having time off work etc etc
Do the maths, Dave. 9x1900.
Dave doesn't keep a calculator under his bed! ;D
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He does, but it's solar powered ::)
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To add to the masks, and this is really ridiculous, the school has now received nine air purifiers. Wifey looked online and they are £1900 each. Jeez.......
Plan B measures dropped and we have to live with Covid (or die with it :-X)
the WHO and top scientists have said don't just treat Covid as FLU ,it's more serious AND mask wearing is very important .
Record number of 6-17 year-olds being admitted to hospital with Covid (https://www.aol.co.uk/news/weve-failed-record-number-6-175118366.html)
highest ever infection in the community .
Another variant twice as transmittable as Omicron spreading like wildfire.
Every new infection is a possible mutation .
No one can guarantee that new mutations won't get more deadly despite the optimism .
no one knows the long term effects of Covid or vaccines
So £10,000 spent on reducing Virus and improving air quality in the air in a school is peanuts*
*Compared to hospital /NHS costs , Teachers & parents having time off work etc etc
Do the maths, Dave. 9x1900.
I imagine that when purchasing thousands of units the buyer asked for a discount and didn't just accept the "googled price" ;)
9 units at 1 school ,there's a lot of schools :P
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To add to the masks, and this is really ridiculous, the school has now received nine air purifiers. Wifey looked online and they are £1900 each. Jeez.......
Plan B measures dropped and we have to live with Covid (or die with it :-X)
the WHO and top scientists have said don't just treat Covid as FLU ,it's more serious AND mask wearing is very important .
Record number of 6-17 year-olds being admitted to hospital with Covid (https://www.aol.co.uk/news/weve-failed-record-number-6-175118366.html)
highest ever infection in the community .
Another variant twice as transmittable as Omicron spreading like wildfire.
Every new infection is a possible mutation .
No one can guarantee that new mutations won't get more deadly despite the optimism .
no one knows the long term effects of Covid or vaccines
So £10,000 spent on reducing Virus and improving air quality in the air in a school is peanuts*
*Compared to hospital /NHS costs , Teachers & parents having time off work etc etc
Do the maths, Dave. 9x1900.
Dave doesn't keep a calculator under his bed! ;D
I've got carpet, floorboards ,that's about it under the bed ;)
I don't even keep money under there :D
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To add to the masks, and this is really ridiculous, the school has now received nine air purifiers. Wifey looked online and they are £1900 each. Jeez.......
Plan B measures dropped and we have to live with Covid (or die with it :-X)
the WHO and top scientists have said don't just treat Covid as FLU ,it's more serious AND mask wearing is very important .
Record number of 6-17 year-olds being admitted to hospital with Covid (https://www.aol.co.uk/news/weve-failed-record-number-6-175118366.html)
highest ever infection in the community .
Another variant twice as transmittable as Omicron spreading like wildfire.
Every new infection is a possible mutation .
No one can guarantee that new mutations won't get more deadly despite the optimism .
no one knows the long term effects of Covid or vaccines
So £10,000 spent on reducing Virus and improving air quality in the air in a school is peanuts*
*Compared to hospital /NHS costs , Teachers & parents having time off work etc etc
Do the maths, Dave. 9x1900.
Dave doesn't keep a calculator under his bed! ;D
I've got carpet, floorboards ,that's about it under the bed ;)
I don't even keep money under there :D
What about the cobwebs? ;)
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To add to the masks, and this is really ridiculous, the school has now received nine air purifiers. Wifey looked online and they are £1900 each. Jeez.......
Plan B measures dropped and we have to live with Covid (or die with it :-X)
the WHO and top scientists have said don't just treat Covid as FLU ,it's more serious AND mask wearing is very important .
Record number of 6-17 year-olds being admitted to hospital with Covid (https://www.aol.co.uk/news/weve-failed-record-number-6-175118366.html)
highest ever infection in the community .
Another variant twice as transmittable as Omicron spreading like wildfire.
Every new infection is a possible mutation .
No one can guarantee that new mutations won't get more deadly despite the optimism .
no one knows the long term effects of Covid or vaccines
So £10,000 spent on reducing Virus and improving air quality in the air in a school is peanuts*
*Compared to hospital /NHS costs , Teachers & parents having time off work etc etc
Do the maths, Dave. 9x1900.
Dave doesn't keep a calculator under his bed! ;D
I've got carpet, floorboards ,that's about it under the bed ;)
I don't even keep money under there :D
What about the cobwebs? ;)
Nope , it's a water bed
nothing can get under MY bed without a tunnel boring machine ,not even Covid ;D
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Sadly I have relatives and friends in similar situations :(
which is why I try and debunk the "masks don't do any good" tripe people sprout
We all have to die of something.....quite often it is not what we expect.
I remember when Mike Hailwood died. Brilliant rider who survived years of competing in the extremely dangerous TT only to be killed in a Rover 3500 on a leisurely drive to buy fish and chips.
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If I never where a mask again, then it will be a day too soon.
And having had three boosters AND the Chinese Virus, I will be less interested in having subsequent booster jabs.
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If I never where a mask again, then it will be a day too soon.
And having had three boosters AND the Chinese Virus, I will be less interested in having subsequent booster jabs.
The booster jab is stalling at around 64%.....so there is a large number of people who remain unconvinced. A further jab would get even less people to comply. Many people in Israel have had four jabs. Has it been effective?....not really.
I don't wear a mask and find it amusing when I see people alone in their cars wearing one while they drive.
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To add to the masks, and this is really ridiculous, the school has now received nine air purifiers. Wifey looked online and they are £1900 each. Jeez.......
Plan B measures dropped and we have to live with Covid (or die with it :-X)
the WHO and top scientists have said don't just treat Covid as FLU ,it's more serious AND mask wearing is very important .
Record number of 6-17 year-olds being admitted to hospital with Covid (https://www.aol.co.uk/news/weve-failed-record-number-6-175118366.html)
highest ever infection in the community .
Another variant twice as transmittable as Omicron spreading like wildfire.
Every new infection is a possible mutation .
No one can guarantee that new mutations won't get more deadly despite the optimism .
no one knows the long term effects of Covid or vaccines
So £10,000 spent on reducing Virus and improving air quality in the air in a school is peanuts*
*Compared to hospital /NHS costs , Teachers & parents having time off work etc etc
Do the maths, Dave. 9x1900.
Dave doesn't keep a calculator under his bed! ;D
I've got carpet, floorboards ,that's about it under the bed ;)
I don't even keep money under there :D
What about the cobwebs? ;)
Nope , it's a water bed
nothing can get under MY bed without a tunnel boring machine ,not even Covid ;D
I've heard that the covid virus is particularly attracted to the sweaty uncovered arse crack sported by many builders.
There is no escape, Dave. ::) :)
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If I never where a mask again, then it will be a day too soon.
And having had three boosters AND the Chinese Virus, I will be less interested in having subsequent booster jabs.
The booster jab is stalling at around 64%.....so there is a large number of people who remain unconvinced. A further jab would get even less people to comply. Many people in Israel have had four jabs. Has it been effective?....not really.
I don't wear a mask and find it amusing when I see people alone in their cars wearing one while they drive.
It's sad that people are that scared that they feel that they have to :-\
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If I never where a mask again, then it will be a day too soon.
I don't wear a mask and find it amusing when I see people alone in their cars wearing one while they drive.
Wearing masks is to protect other people and stop the NHS getting overwhelmed
obviously something you aren't interested in
as long as you are OK ::)
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If I never where a mask again, then it will be a day too soon.
And having had three boosters AND the Chinese Virus, I will be less interested in having subsequent booster jabs.
The booster jab is stalling at around 64%.....so there is a large number of people who remain unconvinced. A further jab would get even less people to comply. Many people in Israel have had four jabs. Has it been effective?....not really.
I don't wear a mask and find it amusing when I see people alone in their cars wearing one while they drive.
It's sad that people are that scared that they feel that they have to :-\
It is. :-X
Unless the real reason is that their dog has just farted. ;) :D
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If I never where a mask again, then it will be a day too soon.
I don't wear a mask and find it amusing when I see people alone in their cars wearing one while they drive.
Wearing masks is to protect other people and stop the NHS getting overwhelmed
obviously something you aren't interested in
as long as you are OK ::)
You're being virtuous again, Dave. :-* :-* :-*
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I find it amusing that the mask wearing proponents hold themselves up as intellectually superior but think that a scrap of cheap Chinese cloth over their face (that has been described by virologists as trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence) will make a difference. :P
Incidentally, France continues to post up big Covid infection numbers despite having one of the strictest mask mandates and general restrictions in Europe. ::)
353,503 new infections yesterday compared to the UK's 89,176 from similar testing data. Plague island indeed. :)
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I find it amusing that the mask wearing proponents hold themselves up as intellectually superior but think that a scrap of cheap Chinese cloth over their face (that has been described by virologists as trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence) will make a difference. :P
Incidentally, France continues to post up big Covid infection numbers despite having one of the strictest mask mandates and general restrictions in Europe. ::)
353,503 new infections yesterday compared to the UK's 89,176 from similar testing data. Plague island indeed. :)
Dave has just removed you from his Christmas card list. :)
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If I never where a mask again, then it will be a day too soon.
I don't wear a mask and find it amusing when I see people alone in their cars wearing one while they drive.
Wearing masks is to protect other people and stop the NHS getting overwhelmed
obviously something you aren't interested in
as long as you are OK ::)
The NHS is always overwhelmed by something.
They will be overwhelmed by a massive staff shortage if the vaccination mandate goes ahead. Next winter it will be various types of flu, next summer dehydration and heatstroke.
People wear masks alone in their car because they are afraid, not to protect anyone.
If it makes you feel better, then that's great, but don't expect everyone to feel, or act, the same way.
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I find it amusing that the mask wearing proponents hold themselves up as intellectually superior but think that a scrap of cheap Chinese cloth over their face (that has been described by virologists as trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence) will make a difference. :P
Incidentally, France continues to post up big Covid infection numbers despite having one of the strictest mask mandates and general restrictions in Europe. ::)
353,503 new infections yesterday compared to the UK's 89,176 from similar testing data. Plague island indeed. :)
Dave has just removed you from his Christmas card list. :)
Dave is still on my Christmas card list. :-*
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I should add, that in the 36 or so hours I was away for this week, Mother managed two trips to A&E. Having stabbed her leg with a chair. First to get a patched, and second to get it re patched because whoever did the first couldn't wrap a bandage for toffee ::)
So it would be fair to say that TCV is the least of my concerns.
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I find it amusing that the mask wearing proponents hold themselves up as intellectually superior
You'd have to be pretty stupid to ignore the FACT that wearing a mask reduces transmission :y
but think that a scrap of cheap Chinese cloth over their face (that has been described by virologists as trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence) will make a difference. :P
Any evidence that even wearing low quality masks WON'T reduce transmission ?
There is plenty of evidence that face coverings and masks have reduced transmission and saved lives .
Even the NHS insist on masks :P
Or are you just trying to justify NOT wearing a mask because you can't be bothered or don't care about anyone else ?
Incidentally, France continues to post up big Covid infection numbers despite having one of the strictest mask mandates and general restrictions in Europe. ::)
353,503 new infections yesterday compared to the UK's 89,176 from similar testing data. Plague island indeed. :)
The French eat snails and frogs legs and live in France ,so hardly a great example ::)
Over 2 thousand Covid hospital admissions a day In the UK :(
that's hospital beds NOT available to the 6 million person waiting list the UK has ::)
Whist it is no longer mandatory to wear a mask ,even the government recommend wearing on in shops/public transport etc
Wearing a mask reduces Covid cases ,saving lives
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I wore a mask to make someone else feel better and I still caught it... ;D
Said person is Incidentally the only person on his shift who wears a mask, and he still caught it.
And fitting a dressing properly would have saved a space for someone else.
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If I never where a mask again, then it will be a day too soon.
I don't wear a mask and find it amusing when I see people alone in their cars wearing one while they drive.
Wearing masks is to protect other people and stop the NHS getting overwhelmed
obviously something you aren't interested in
as long as you are OK ::)
The NHS is always overwhelmed by something.
They will be overwhelmed by a massive staff shortage if the vaccination mandate goes ahead. Next winter it will be various types of flu, next summer dehydration and heatstroke.
People wear masks alone in their car because they are afraid, not to protect anyone.
If it makes you feel better, then that's great, but don't expect everyone to feel, or act, the same way.
I don't wear a mask when alone in my car ::)
I do wear a mask in shops and whilst visiting other households etc ,
I social distance when possible, disinfect mail, shopping etc
all pretty simple ,low cost measures that sensible people take
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Did you do any of that before 2020?
If not, why not?
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I wore a mask to make someone else feel better and I still caught it... ;D
the whole idea of mask wearing is to protect other people ::)
though it does offer the wearer some protection too
Said person is Incidentally the only person on his shift who wears a mask, and he still caught it.
maybe more people should wear mask then on his shift ::)
And fitting a dressing properly would have saved a space for someone else.
not having 2,500 covid patients per day would save 2500 spaces for someone else ;)
which is why many people wear masks
which is ,at the end of the day ,what this thread is meant to be about
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He caught it in his first week there. Everyone else had already had it.
But you avoided my question ::)
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I find it amusing that the mask wearing proponents hold themselves up as intellectually superior
You'd have to be pretty stupid to ignore the FACT that wearing a mask reduces transmission :y
but think that a scrap of cheap Chinese cloth over their face (that has been described by virologists as trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence) will make a difference. :P
Any evidence that even wearing low quality masks WON'T reduce transmission ?
There is plenty of evidence that face coverings and masks have reduced transmission and saved lives .
Even the NHS insist on masks :P
Or are you just trying to justify NOT wearing a mask because you can't be bothered or don't care about anyone else ?
Incidentally, France continues to post up big Covid infection numbers despite having one of the strictest mask mandates and general restrictions in Europe. ::)
353,503 new infections yesterday compared to the UK's 89,176 from similar testing data. Plague island indeed. :)
The French eat snails and frogs legs and live in France ,so hardly a great example ::)
Over 2 thousand Covid hospital admissions a day In the UK :(
that's hospital beds NOT available to the 6 million person waiting list the UK has ::)
Whist it is no longer mandatory to wear a mask ,even the government recommend wearing on in shops/public transport etc
Wearing a mask reduces Covid cases ,saving lives
What proportion of those are admitted because of Covid? Are admitted for something else but test positive? and catch Covid whilst in hospital? ???
Yesterday France had 31,271 Covid-19 patients in hospital, the UK 16,149, so yes wearing masks reduces Covid cases and saves lives. ::)
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Is that the same French France that has almost as many people living there and a quarter of the population density? :D
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Did you do any of that before 2020?
If not, why not?
I've worn a mask many times over the years when there has been a risk of airborne particles which are hazardous to health, along with other PPE , not just me though ,masks/PPE have been available for quite a while ::)
been wearing a mask in shops etc since BEFORE the first lockdown :)
I also washed my hands EVEN BEFORE Covid ;D
Disinfected things that may have germs on PRE Covid :y
Have many first aid kits for minor injuries and try and avoid serious injury
thus NOT being a burden on the NHS
I do pay for my dentist and opticians appointments/treatment
He caught it in his first week there. Everyone else had already had it.
You can't say for sure where or when "He" caught it ::)
But you avoided my question ::)
What question ?
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What proportion of those are admitted because of Covid? Are admitted for something else but test positive? and catch Covid whilst in hospital? ???
that's admitted to hospital because they have covid and need treatment ,not just admitted to hospital and happened to have covid ::)
Yesterday France had 31,271 Covid-19 patients in hospital, the UK 16,149, so
why bring France into it ::)
thats 16,149 UK hospital beds that could be used for the 6 million waiting list
yes wearing masks reduces Covid cases and saves lives. ::)
Good :y
I'm glad you agree :D
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Did you do any of that before 2020?
If not, why not?
I've worn a mask many times over the years when there has been a risk of airborne particles which are hazardous to health, along with other PPE , not just me though ,masks/PPE have been available for quite a while ::)
been wearing a mask in shops etc since BEFORE the first lockdown :)
I also washed my hands EVEN BEFORE Covid ;D
Disinfected things that may have germs on PRE Covid :y
Have many first aid kits for minor injuries and try and avoid serious injury
thus NOT being a burden on the NHS
I do pay for my dentist and opticians appointments/treatment
He caught it in his first week there. Everyone else had already had it.
You can't say for sure where or when "He" caught it ::)
But you avoided my question ::)
What question ?
The one at the top of your reply ;D
Hand washing falls into the same category as not coughing or sneezing at people and has been an ingrained expectation for as long as I can remember. Not wishing to breathe in cement dust or lead paint flakes is also common sense, although smoking is probably more dangerous than anything else you are trying to avoid which rather makes everything else moot as you'll probably end up in hospital anyways.
Like I said, if it makes you feel better then that's fine but preaching whilst smoking would be somewhat hypocritical... ;)
The only people who set out to go to hospital are drug addicts with no money.
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Hand washing falls into the same category as not coughing or sneezing at people and has been an ingrained expectation for as long as I can remember.
and wearing a mask in public is now ALSO a common courtesy now ;)
Not wishing to breathe in cement dust or lead paint flakes is also common sense, although smoking is probably more dangerous than anything else you are trying to avoid which rather makes everything else moot as you'll probably end up in hospital anyways.
Like I said, if it makes you feel better then that's fine but preaching whilst smoking would be somewhat hypocritical... ;)
The only people who set out to go to hospital are drug addicts with no money.
Like I said ,wearing masks protects other people ::)
It's not about me feeling better :-X
as for Smoking , smokers are less likely to be ill with covid than non smokers or people who quit smoking last I heard ;D
I'm not preaching , follow whichever religion or don't ;D
I imagine I will get ill one day ,go to hospital ,even die one day :P
I just choose NOT to get run over by the Covid bus if possible ,or throw other people under it
I wear a mask
(as per the thread title )
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Sorry to disappoint you with this shocking revelation, but we're all going to die.
And of course, smokers never have hacking coughs or colds or respiratory ailments or clogged arteries...
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Sorry to disappoint you with this shocking revelation, but we're all going to die.
but you can reduce the risk by not jumping under busses ,Covid or otherwise :P
And of course, smokers never have hacking coughs or colds or respiratory ailments or clogged arteries...
the only way smoking would make you catch a COLD is if you shared your fag or air with someone with a cold and got their germs
Just like Covid ,another virus doing the rounds currently ;)
non smokers also get coughs , respiratory ailments or clogged arteries...
this thread is about masks and Covid though ;)
start another thread if you wish do discus the merits of smoking ;D
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Hand washing falls into the same category as not coughing or sneezing at people and has been an ingrained expectation for as long as I can remember.
and wearing a mask in public is now ALSO a common courtesy now ;)
Not wishing to breathe in cement dust or lead paint flakes is also common sense, although smoking is probably more dangerous than anything else you are trying to avoid which rather makes everything else moot as you'll probably end up in hospital anyways.
Like I said, if it makes you feel better then that's fine but preaching whilst smoking would be somewhat hypocritical... ;)
The only people who set out to go to hospital are drug addicts with no money.
Like I said ,wearing masks protects other people ::)
It's not about me feeling better :-X
as for Smoking , smokers are less likely to be ill with covid than non smokers or people who quit smoking last I heard ;D
I'm not preaching , follow whichever religion or don't ;D
I imagine I will get ill one day ,go to hospital ,even die one day :P
I just choose NOT to get run over by the Covid bus if possible ,or throw other people under it
I wear a mask
(as per the thread title )
Your choice, but how far down this route do you go?
You know that probably 5-10% of the population will continue to wear a mask 10 years from now because they are naturally neurotic and fearful of just about everything.
Do you wait until the last of these remove their mask before you do?......because some people never will.
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Hand washing falls into the same category as not coughing or sneezing at people and has been an ingrained expectation for as long as I can remember.
and wearing a mask in public is now ALSO a common courtesy now ;)
Not wishing to breathe in cement dust or lead paint flakes is also common sense, although smoking is probably more dangerous than anything else you are trying to avoid which rather makes everything else moot as you'll probably end up in hospital anyways.
Like I said, if it makes you feel better then that's fine but preaching whilst smoking would be somewhat hypocritical... ;)
The only people who set out to go to hospital are drug addicts with no money.
Like I said ,wearing masks protects other people ::)
It's not about me feeling better :-X
as for Smoking , smokers are less likely to be ill with covid than non smokers or people who quit smoking last I heard ;D
I'm not preaching , follow whichever religion or don't ;D
I imagine I will get ill one day ,go to hospital ,even die one day :P
I just choose NOT to get run over by the Covid bus if possible ,or throw other people under it
I wear a mask
(as per the thread title )
Your choice, but how far down this route do you go?
You know that probably 5-10% of the population will continue to wear a mask 10 years from now because they are naturally neurotic and fearful of just about everything.
Do you wait until the last of these remove their mask before you do?......because some people never will.
when Covid is at a reasonable, manageable level in the UK
which it isn't right now
Covid level is very high ,1 in 20
thousands ill or in hospital or off work/school
and if people choose to wear a mask in 10 years then that is up to them
some people wear straw hats or sandals
they have their reasons ::)
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Hand washing falls into the same category as not coughing or sneezing at people and has been an ingrained expectation for as long as I can remember.
and wearing a mask in public is now ALSO a common courtesy now ;)
Not wishing to breathe in cement dust or lead paint flakes is also common sense, although smoking is probably more dangerous than anything else you are trying to avoid which rather makes everything else moot as you'll probably end up in hospital anyways.
Like I said, if it makes you feel better then that's fine but preaching whilst smoking would be somewhat hypocritical... ;)
The only people who set out to go to hospital are drug addicts with no money.
Like I said ,wearing masks protects other people ::)
It's not about me feeling better :-X
as for Smoking , smokers are less likely to be ill with covid than non smokers or people who quit smoking last I heard ;D
I'm not preaching , follow whichever religion or don't ;D
I imagine I will get ill one day ,go to hospital ,even die one day :P
I just choose NOT to get run over by the Covid bus if possible ,or throw other people under it
I wear a mask
(as per the thread title )
Your choice, but how far down this route do you go?
You know that probably 5-10% of the population will continue to wear a mask 10 years from now because they are naturally neurotic and fearful of just about everything.
Do you wait until the last of these remove their mask before you do?......because some people never will.
Ah well....at least they'll still be alive in ten years ;D
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Hand washing falls into the same category as not coughing or sneezing at people and has been an ingrained expectation for as long as I can remember.
and wearing a mask in public is now ALSO a common courtesy now ;)
Not wishing to breathe in cement dust or lead paint flakes is also common sense, although smoking is probably more dangerous than anything else you are trying to avoid which rather makes everything else moot as you'll probably end up in hospital anyways.
Like I said, if it makes you feel better then that's fine but preaching whilst smoking would be somewhat hypocritical... ;)
The only people who set out to go to hospital are drug addicts with no money.
Like I said ,wearing masks protects other people ::)
It's not about me feeling better :-X
as for Smoking , smokers are less likely to be ill with covid than non smokers or people who quit smoking last I heard ;D
I'm not preaching , follow whichever religion or don't ;D
I imagine I will get ill one day ,go to hospital ,even die one day :P
I just choose NOT to get run over by the Covid bus if possible ,or throw other people under it
I wear a mask
(as per the thread title )
Your choice, but how far down this route do you go?
You know that probably 5-10% of the population will continue to wear a mask 10 years from now because they are naturally neurotic and fearful of just about everything.
Do you wait until the last of these remove their mask before you do?......because some people never will.
Ah well....at least they'll still be alive in ten years ;D
OK....shall we refer to them as 'the living dead' ;D
Existing rather than living.....enduring rather than enjoying.
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You know that probably 5-10% of the population will continue to wear a mask 10 years from now because they are naturally neurotic and fearful of just about everything.
Do you wait until the last of these remove their mask before you do?......because some people never will.
Ah well....at least they'll still be alive in ten years ;D
OK....shall we refer to them as 'the living dead' ;D
Existing rather than living.....enduring rather than enjoying.
And we can call the 155,613 people to date who did die due to Covid 'the dead dead' ::)
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Most of those currently off work are doing so because they are legally obliged to be isolating (regardless of whether they are actually unfit)
I would have returned to work after four days if it had been anything other than TCV but ended up doing the full ten days because I kept testing positive. Of all four of my colleagues who had it at the same time, only one was able to return to work at Day 7.
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You know that probably 5-10% of the population will continue to wear a mask 10 years from now because they are naturally neurotic and fearful of just about everything.
Do you wait until the last of these remove their mask before you do?......because some people never will.
Ah well....at least they'll still be alive in ten years ;D
OK....shall we refer to them as 'the living dead' ;D
Existing rather than living.....enduring rather than enjoying.
And we can call the 155,613 people to date who did die due to Covid 'the dead dead' ::)
The greatful dead perhaps... Or the liberated...
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Hand washing falls into the same category as not coughing or sneezing at people and has been an ingrained expectation for as long as I can remember.
and wearing a mask in public is now ALSO a common courtesy now ;)
Not wishing to breathe in cement dust or lead paint flakes is also common sense, although smoking is probably more dangerous than anything else you are trying to avoid which rather makes everything else moot as you'll probably end up in hospital anyways.
Like I said, if it makes you feel better then that's fine but preaching whilst smoking would be somewhat hypocritical... ;)
The only people who set out to go to hospital are drug addicts with no money.
Like I said ,wearing masks protects other people ::)
It's not about me feeling better :-X
as for Smoking , smokers are less likely to be ill with covid than non smokers or people who quit smoking last I heard ;D
I'm not preaching , follow whichever religion or don't ;D
I imagine I will get ill one day ,go to hospital ,even die one day :P
I just choose NOT to get run over by the Covid bus if possible ,or throw other people under it
I wear a mask
(as per the thread title )
Your choice, but how far down this route do you go?
You know that probably 5-10% of the population will continue to wear a mask 10 years from now because they are naturally neurotic and fearful of just about everything.
Do you wait until the last of these remove their mask before you do?......because some people never will.
Ah well....at least they'll still be alive in ten years ;D
Unless the red bus gets them! ::) :D :D ;)
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Why the long discussion about masks ? Some folk will wear them & some won't it certainly won't worry me one way or the other , I'll do what I think is right and everyone is entitled to that way of thinking.
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Why the long discussion about masks ? Some folk will wear them & some won't it certainly won't worry me one way or the other , I'll do what I think is right and everyone is entitled to that way of thinking.
Have to agree on that :y
I certainly will not be wearing a mask again when going around our huge Sainsbury’s ;)
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Official figures say 534 people died with Covid today, and 88000 new cases !
Of course many of them will have had serious underlying issues and probably would have died regardless, but if they are using the same methodology as they have all along, then numbers are very much on the rise again.
A few months ago the number of deaths daily was regularly well below 100.
Another lockdown soon ?
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It was 112 thousand new cases the day before .
the 534 death number is an adjusted number, presumably they found some unrecorded deaths :-\
death figures in 28 days are no longer a good way to show what is going on with Covid.
you are much more likely to die post 28 days if seriously effected by Covid now ,or suffer "long Covid"
(new treatments etc mean you can be kept alive longer)
There will be a percentage of people off work, claiming benefits with Covid or long covid for the foreseeable I imagine .
The return to school / work and the scrapping of mask wearing etc will result in another upturn in cases .
I hope we don't get a mutation more deadly now we have mutations that spread like wildfire :o
lets hope Omicron doesn't weaponize now it's everywhere unchecked ::)
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Hopefully your mattress won't burst... ::)
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The Spanish government narrowly voted for us all ( including tourists) to continue wearing masks in outside spaces ( as well as of course in shops etc). Narrowly because the vote was for a package of measures including pension reform.
There is an exception. Those of us living in rural situations without close proximity to others don’t need to wear a mask. When we go to town on a shopping trip , it is like visiting a war zone!
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I don't know how the US calculates its death figures for coronavirus, but it's well on the way towards 1,000,000.
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The Spanish government narrowly voted for us all ( including tourists) to continue wearing masks in outside spaces ( as well as of course in shops etc). Narrowly because the vote was for a package of measures including pension reform.
There is an exception. Those of us living in rural situations without close proximity to others don’t need to wear a mask. When we go to town on a shopping trip , it is like visiting a war zone!
In the UK it is a quickly diminishing minority who are still wearing masks now, including many staff in all types of shops, and certainly I have stopped using one. I am breathing again! Back to being British :D ;)
That last comment is backed up after seeing an obviously Asian (probably Chinese or Japanese) driving along in their car wearing full masks, as they do in those lands, for better or worse. ;)
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It was 112 thousand new cases the day before .
the 534 death number is an adjusted number, presumably they found some unrecorded deaths :-\
death figures in 28 days are no longer a good way to show what is going on with Covid.
you are much more likely to die post 28 days if seriously effected by Covid now ,or suffer "long Covid"
(new treatments etc mean you can be kept alive longer)
There will be a percentage of people off work, claiming benefits with Covid or long covid for the foreseeable I imagine .
The return to school / work and the scrapping of mask wearing etc will result in another upturn in cases .
I hope we don't get a mutation more deadly now we have mutations that spread like wildfire :o
lets hope Omicron doesn't weaponize now it's everywhere unchecked ::)
Mutations tend to get less deadly rather than more deadly. :)
The 'lurgy' was never really that deadly to begin with.
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The 'lurgy' was never really that deadly to begin with.
It was to quite a number in my daughter's ICU ward ....
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The 'lurgy' was never really that deadly to begin with.
It was to quite a number in my daughter's ICU ward ....
But did they die from it or with it?
Lots of people died with it but probably would have survived if covid was the sole factor.
We have to die of something. :)
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The 'lurgy' was never really that deadly to begin with.
It was to quite a number in my daughter's ICU ward ....
But did they die from it or with it?
Lots of people died with it but probably would have survived if covid was the sole factor.
We have to die of something. :)
Fair point .... a number did have 'underlying problems'
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I would refer you to the three links here :y (https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=149116.0)
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Ive been feeling quite "fluey" for the last few days, so just about to take a test.
If I dont post any more, you will know what happened. ::)
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Ive been feeling quite "fluey" for the last few days, so just about to take a test.
If I dont post any more, you will know what happened. ::)
Good luck
PS watch out for buses for the next 28 days :P
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All clear. :) Just the usual Manflu, which is of course potentially lethal. ::)
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I found TCV to be much less fatal than Manflu... :-\
Gesundheit :D
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I found TCV to be much less fatal than Manflu... :-\
Gesundheit :D
Manflu......99% FATAL
Black Death....50-75% FATAL
Chinese sniffle......1% FATAL (for old people)