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Petrol consumption.
« on: 22 December 2023, 15:58:12 »

TB mentioned in a recent post that he needed a 'planet killing soot chucker' because he couldn't make a reasonably powerful petrol car achieve double figures. >:D

Well, I don't drive like Tunnie or  the scouse whippet owner, so I reckon these figures are pretty reasonable, with 40 MPG possible on a long run.

I can remember an elderly aunt boasting that her Morris Minor would do 'almost' 40 MPG if she didn't see the dark side of 35 MPH. >:D









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« Reply #1 on: 22 December 2023, 19:48:19 »

I've been looking at 3.0 ltr petrol 5 series estates on Autotrader and thought that the MPG figures claimed were BS, but having seen Tunnies and now your MPG, I'm thinking they are probably about right afterall.  :-\

Quite impressive for a big petrol straight 6.  :y
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« Reply #2 on: 22 December 2023, 19:54:56 »

You say that, but look at the entry price. Even if leased/hp/cash money, the cost of getting into one buys a nice older car and a shit ton of petrol.

Point being if you're spending £350-400 a month to save a couple of tanks of fuel, what have you actually achieved  ???
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« Reply #3 on: 22 December 2023, 20:03:22 »

You say that, but look at the entry price. Even if leased/hp/cash money, the cost of getting into one buys a nice older car and a shit ton of petrol.

Point being if you're spending £350-400 a month to save a couple of tanks of fuel, what have you actually achieved  ???
A nice, new, modern car  :)
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« Reply #4 on: 22 December 2023, 20:20:09 »

You say that, but look at the entry price. Even if leased/hp/cash money, the cost of getting into one buys a nice older car and a shit ton of petrol.

Point being if you're spending £350-400 a month to save a couple of tanks of fuel, what have you actually achieved  ???
A nice, new, modern car  :)
Since when did that matter?
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« Reply #5 on: 22 December 2023, 21:16:03 »

You say that, but look at the entry price. Even if leased/hp/cash money, the cost of getting into one buys a nice older car and a shit ton of petrol.

Point being if you're spending £350-400 a month to save a couple of tanks of fuel, what have you actually achieved  ???
A nice, new, modern car  :)
Since when did that matter?

When the thought of lying under an old car on the drive in January doesn't seem like fun any more....  :-X
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« Reply #6 on: 22 December 2023, 23:52:30 »

You say that, but look at the entry price. Even if leased/hp/cash money, the cost of getting into one buys a nice older car and a shit ton of petrol.

Point being if you're spending £350-400 a month to save a couple of tanks of fuel, what have you actually achieved  ???
A nice, new, modern car  :)
Since when did that matter?

When the thought of lying under an old car on the drive in January doesn't seem like fun any more....  :-X
Indeed

Better to WAIT till Feb or March when it's snowing and -5  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: 23 December 2023, 10:54:30 »

Petrol engines have come a long way in recent years. My wife’s Audi 2.0 TFSI (petrol) is good on fuel and averages mid 40’s with mixed driving but on motorway runs it can see as high as 60 mpg.  Although not a big engine, it is still sprightly enough to do 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds and run on to a top speed of 152mph.
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« Reply #8 on: 23 December 2023, 12:28:57 »

I've been looking at 3.0 ltr petrol 5 series estates on Autotrader and thought that the MPG figures claimed were BS, but having seen Tunnies and now your MPG, I'm thinking they are probably about right afterall.  :-\

Quite impressive for a big petrol straight 6:y

I suppose the march of technology has made cars more efficient and frugal over the passing decades.

Fuel injection is more efficient that carbs, especially when needles and jets get worn causing the car to run 'rich'

 Set and forget electronic ignition will be more efficient than worn and pitted contact points.

Cars run with higher gearing these days with 50 MPH requiring only around 1200 RPM in 8th gear. Most cars in the seventies needed about 3000 RPM in top (4th) to see 50 MPH.

Having said this  the Mexican is not helped by being a 'fat bastard' at around 1700KG......a decent 2 door coupe of yesteryear, like a 3 litre Capri, weighed in at around 1000 KG. ???

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« Reply #9 on: 23 December 2023, 12:32:04 »

Petrol engines have come a long way in recent years. My wife’s Audi 2.0 TFSI (petrol) is good on fuel and averages mid 40’s with mixed driving but on motorway runs it can see as high as 60 mpg.  Although not a big engine, it is still sprightly enough to do 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds and run on to a top speed of 152mph.

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Think Maserati Bora, V12 E-Type, Ferrari 365 GTC, Porsche 911S, Signum 2.8 V6 Turbo :)
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« Reply #10 on: 23 December 2023, 12:36:53 »

You say that, but look at the entry price. Even if leased/hp/cash money, the cost of getting into one buys a nice older car and a shit ton of petrol.

Point being if you're spending £350-400 a month to save a couple of tanks of fuel, what have you actually achieved  ???
A nice, new, modern car  :)
Since when did that matter?

When the thought of lying under an old car on the drive in January doesn't seem like fun any more....  :-X

...especially when the said motor car is held aloft with crumbling bricks and old paving slabs. ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 23 December 2023, 13:38:43 »

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Having said this  the Mexican is not helped by being a 'fat bastard' at around 1700KG......a decent 2 door coupe of yesteryear, like a 3 litre Capri, weighed in at around 1000 KG. ???

Crash protection weighs heavy  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: 23 December 2023, 13:45:57 »

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Having said this  the Mexican is not helped by being a 'fat bastard' at around 1700KG......a decent 2 door coupe of yesteryear, like a 3 litre Capri, weighed in at around 1000 KG. ???

Crash protection weighs heavy  ;)

The M240i is also physically larger than a Capri......around 1.5 feet longer and 1 foot wider.

Perhaps 2023 cars are bigger and fatter because we have more 'fat bastards' driving cars in 2023. ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 23 December 2023, 14:41:36 »

You say that, but look at the entry price. Even if leased/hp/cash money, the cost of getting into one buys a nice older car and a shit ton of petrol.

Point being if you're spending £350-400 a month to save a couple of tanks of fuel, what have you actually achieved  ???
A nice, new, modern car  :)
Since when did that matter?

When the thought of lying under an old car on the drive in January doesn't seem like fun any more....  :-X
Indeed

Better to WAIT till Feb or March when it's snowing and -5  ;D
You need a nice 'beast from the east' to set in before you really want wriggle under the old jalopy.  :y
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« Reply #14 on: 23 December 2023, 14:46:32 »

I've been looking at 3.0 ltr petrol 5 series estates on Autotrader and thought that the MPG figures claimed were BS, but having seen Tunnies and now your MPG, I'm thinking they are probably about right afterall.  :-\

Quite impressive for a big petrol straight 6:y

I suppose the march of technology has made cars more efficient and frugal over the passing decades.

Fuel injection is more efficient that carbs, especially when needles and jets get worn causing the car to run 'rich'

 Set and forget electronic ignition will be more efficient than worn and pitted contact points.

Cars run with higher gearing these days with 50 MPH requiring only around 1200 RPM in 8th gear. Most cars in the seventies needed about 3000 RPM in top (4th) to see 50 MPH.

Having said this  the Mexican is not helped by being a 'fat bastard' at around 1700KG......a decent 2 door coupe of yesteryear, like a 3 litre Capri, weighed in at around 1000 KG. ???


8 GEARS,  :o Christ, i've only just mastered 5.  :-[ ;D
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« Reply #15 on: 23 December 2023, 14:50:43 »

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8 GEARS,  :o Christ, i've only just mastered 5.  :-[ ;D

that's cos you've too many pedals, though my Merc 'only' has 7 ....  ;) Having said that, my daughters manual Yaris has 6  :y
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« Reply #16 on: 23 December 2023, 15:37:23 »

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8 GEARS,  :o Christ, i've only just mastered 5.  :-[ ;D

that's cos you've too many pedals, though my Merc 'only' has 7 ....  ;) Having said that, my daughters manual Yaris has 6  :y
Borrowed my son in law's Mundano when i was looking for a replacement for my dead Desmond. That was a 6 speed manual. Not a bad drive but seemed a bit 'tinny.
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« Reply #17 on: 23 December 2023, 15:40:37 »

I've been looking at 3.0 ltr petrol 5 series estates on Autotrader and thought that the MPG figures claimed were BS, but having seen Tunnies and now your MPG, I'm thinking they are probably about right afterall.  :-\

Quite impressive for a big petrol straight 6:y

I suppose the march of technology has made cars more efficient and frugal over the passing decades.

Fuel injection is more efficient that carbs, especially when needles and jets get worn causing the car to run 'rich'

 Set and forget electronic ignition will be more efficient than worn and pitted contact points.

Cars run with higher gearing these days with 50 MPH requiring only around 1200 RPM in 8th gear. Most cars in the seventies needed about 3000 RPM in top (4th) to see 50 MPH.

Having said this  the Mexican is not helped by being a 'fat bastard' at around 1700KG......a decent 2 door coupe of yesteryear, like a 3 litre Capri, weighed in at around 1000 KG. ???


8 GEARS,  :o Christ, i've only just mastered 5:-[ ;D

Do you have fond memories of the ignition advance and retard mechanism on the steering wheel, Ronny? >:D ;)
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« Reply #18 on: 23 December 2023, 19:44:46 »

Its having to stick your hand out side the cab to work the gears and brakes as well!!
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« Reply #19 on: 23 December 2023, 21:26:35 »

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8 GEARS,  :o Christ, i've only just mastered 5.  :-[ ;D

that's cos you've too many pedals, though my Merc 'only' has 7 ....  ;) Having said that, my daughters manual Yaris has 6  :y

Wouldnt matter to swmbo if it had 6 or 26 gears, she will only ever use four. Apparently theres no need for any more than that. Its just modern gimmickry.  ;D

Speaking of petrol consumption. My early cars - 1.2 Viva, 1.5 Avenger and similar never returned 30 mpg despite being glacially slow.
It was pence per gallon then though, so it didnt matter too much.
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« Reply #20 on: 23 December 2023, 21:44:37 »

I've been looking at 3.0 ltr petrol 5 series estates on Autotrader and thought that the MPG figures claimed were BS, but having seen Tunnies and now your MPG, I'm thinking they are probably about right afterall.  :-\

Quite impressive for a big petrol straight 6:y

I suppose the march of technology has made cars more efficient and frugal over the passing decades.

Fuel injection is more efficient that carbs, especially when needles and jets get worn causing the car to run 'rich'

 Set and forget electronic ignition will be more efficient than worn and pitted contact points.

Cars run with higher gearing these days with 50 MPH requiring only around 1200 RPM in 8th gear. Most cars in the seventies needed about 3000 RPM in top (4th) to see 50 MPH.

Having said this  the Mexican is not helped by being a 'fat bastard' at around 1700KG......a decent 2 door coupe of yesteryear, like a 3 litre Capri, weighed in at around 1000 KG. ???


8 GEARS,  :o Christ, i've only just mastered 5:-[ ;D

Do you have fond memories of the ignition advance and retard mechanism on the steering wheel, Ronny? >:D ;)
Not quite that old, your Grace.  :P :)
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« Reply #21 on: 24 December 2023, 13:26:09 »

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8 GEARS,  :o Christ, i've only just mastered 5.  :-[ ;D

that's cos you've too many pedals, though my Merc 'only' has 7 ....  ;) Having said that, my daughters manual Yaris has 6  :y

Wouldnt matter to swmbo if it had 6 or 26 gears, she will only ever use four. Apparently theres no need for any more than that. Its just modern gimmickry.  ;D

Speaking of petrol consumption. My early cars - 1.2 Viva, 1.5 Avenger and similar never returned 30 mpg despite being glacially slow.
It was pence per gallon then though, so it didnt matter too much.

Anyone remember the Viva GT from the late sixties. A black bonnet (usually) and a 2 litre 4 pot.

Quite a quick car for the day.
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« Reply #22 on: 24 December 2023, 13:33:00 »

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8 GEARS,  :o Christ, i've only just mastered 5.  :-[ ;D

that's cos you've too many pedals, though my Merc 'only' has 7 ....  ;) Having said that, my daughters manual Yaris has 6  :y

Wouldnt matter to swmbo if it had 6 or 26 gears, she will only ever use four. Apparently theres no need for any more than that. Its just modern gimmickry.  ;D

Speaking of petrol consumption. My early cars - 1.2 Viva, 1.5 Avenger and similar never returned 30 mpg despite being glacially slow.
It was pence per gallon then though, so it didnt matter too much.

Anyone remember the Viva GT from the late sixties. A black bonnet (usually) and a 2 litre 4 pot.

Quite a quick car for the day.

No I'm far too young.  :)

In Lord Opti years I'm about 16.  >:D
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« Reply #23 on: 24 December 2023, 13:41:52 »

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8 GEARS,  :o Christ, i've only just mastered 5.  :-[ ;D

that's cos you've too many pedals, though my Merc 'only' has 7 ....  ;) Having said that, my daughters manual Yaris has 6  :y

Wouldnt matter to swmbo if it had 6 or 26 gears, she will only ever use four. Apparently theres no need for any more than that. Its just modern gimmickry.  ;D

Speaking of petrol consumption. My early cars - 1.2 Viva, 1.5 Avenger and similar never returned 30 mpg despite being glacially slow.
It was pence per gallon then though, so it didnt matter too much.

Anyone remember the Viva GT from the late sixties. A black bonnet (usually) and a 2 litre 4 pot.

Quite a quick car for the day.

No I'm far too young. :)

In Lord Opti years I'm about 16.  >:D

So am I.

An old person once told me about this car in the time of the dinosaurs. :)
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« Reply #24 on: 24 December 2023, 15:09:12 »

Did you ask Fred Flintstone?  :)
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« Reply #25 on: 25 December 2023, 17:25:15 »

There was also a Brabham Viva.
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« Reply #26 on: 25 December 2023, 19:40:58 »

Now that takes me back-------
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« Reply #27 on: 25 December 2023, 20:03:17 »

About 40 years ago a mate of mine agreed to buy one. He went to collect and pay for it but the seller had taken it out for one last drive, and wrote it off.  ;D
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« Reply #28 on: 27 December 2023, 11:03:44 »

So I bought my BMW based off my car share trips to work. When we first started sharing lifts, my buddy had a 2015 BMW M235i. (2 door) - At the time I still had my 3.2 Elite. His 3.0 petrol was hugely more powerful, frugal and sounded just as great if not better thanks to the exhaust. (stock BMW)

Chalk and cheese type of cars and the age at which they were designed/built. But he would easily crack 30mpg and he drives like TB...

So when I started looking for a replacement thanks to ULEZ, I was drawn to an N55 block 3.0 petrol BMW. From what I see generally very reliable unless you go track with them and tune them up hard.

Pop these engines in Eco mode and it allows the car/engine to coast. This I found has a big effect on fuel use and can really make it drop. It's also very efficient on the motorway, even for a short period. I often join the M25 after leaving work with MPG around ~24-27mpg. Usually like to win the traffic light grand prix drags now  ;D

But just 15 mins and it's low 30's and I'll average 33mpg or so by the time I'm home. That's sitting in the BMW lane as well, not doing 60. These engines much prefer doing 75-95mph.

I could never find a m235i in the spec I wanted, BMW's are a nightmare due to options when looking second hand. So you have to go through all the photos in detail to see what it actually has. I wanted Pro Nav, Parking Senors (front/rear) *yes each was an option  ::), memory mirrors and cruise. But even this basic shopping list was hard to find, always one would be missing.

Stroke of luck and I found my 435i with all the trimming on it plus ones I did not expect. (HUD, Memory Seats, Adaptive Lights)

Not sure this engine and more weight would help in the 5 series, I do notice the performance loss between m235i and my 435i, but his was 325bhp mine is 302bhp. Think the B58's would be a better choice and a stage one remap brings those up I think to nearly 430bhp.

At some point I'm very tempted to Stage1 mine, as it would go from 302bhp to 380bhp!! But I also need some pocket money to upgrade the charge pipe first.

If little fatty can get over the badge, I think this engine (or B58) in something like a 4 series could suit him. I don't find the ride harsh, as this was before the "M" lite type was officially born.

Current car my lift share buddy has is a 2021 m235i, but this is the 4 door one and "only" a 4 pot petrol but still makes 300bhp. We find mine sounds a heck of a lot better and not a massive difference in fuel use.

To sum up, 30mpg on a mixed drive into outskirts of London is no problem. Longer runs, mid 30's very easily even if cruising in outside lane.
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« Reply #29 on: 27 December 2023, 11:07:41 »

These also sound fantasic even unmodified, far better than any diesel. Quite a difference starting my current car to the old daddy bus in the morning!
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« Reply #30 on: 27 December 2023, 11:49:19 »

These also sound fantasic even unmodified, far better than any diesel. Quite a difference starting my current car to the old daddy bus in the morning!

It depends on what people need from them. As I’ve mentioned previously, a 0-60mph sprint will see the petrol derivative start to edge away very slightly from its diesel equivalent, but from approximately 50mph rolling up to 100mph the diesel will easily reel it back in. The diesel is 2 seconds quicker mid range than the petrol and let’s be honest, once things are moving over a ton things start to get silly, so that’s what I base my experience on. After that, we all know the petrol is quicker to the speed limiter, but at a big sacrifice in fuel compared to the diesel.
As for the spec, a lot of trim level is paired up. They tend to throw more toys at the 3.0’s anyway but memory seats come paired with memory/folding mirrors, Nav Pro comes paired with Harmon Kardon etc and I’m yet to see a 3.0 without front and rear parking sensors as standard. It’s generally the comfort access (wiggle foot under rear bumper to open the boot) that comes as extra, and Parking Pro, (parks itself) both of which I have and never use if I’m honest.
As for power, they are plenty quick enough from the factory, but a larger charge pipe as you said, a larger intercooler and a map to lose the electronic speed limiter will see you on the wrong side of 170mph. Hartge used to do this as a whole package and were a trusted company by bmw but they’ve ceased trading I believe. If anyone doubts the power of the straight six diesel, take a look at the bmw D3. It has monstrous torque and will see the wrong side of 170mph.
Glad you’re more than happy with your choice, they are a nice car to drive and the infotainmen systemt usability is still one of the best in my opinion.
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Re: Petrol consumption.
« Reply #31 on: 27 December 2023, 12:29:55 »

Yeah I'm really happy! RE 3.0, the m235i being at the base end of the range of BMW many were very low spec. Despite having 3.0 petrol, one local to me had no front parking sensors, only rear! Another one had no cruise, basic nav, no sensors front or rear!

True on the mid-range of diesels, but my other thought is that this could be my last combustion engine car. So I wanted it to be petrol. My miles are around 6-8k per year, so the diesel saving was minimal.

Did you ever think about flashing yours to ID6 or enable carplay? Thinking about it on mine, but I find the HUD really useful and that's all powered by BMW stock nav/music.
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« Reply #32 on: 27 December 2023, 12:32:21 »

So I bought my BMW based off my car share trips to work. When we first started sharing lifts, my buddy had a 2015 BMW M235i. (2 door) - At the time I still had my 3.2 Elite. His 3.0 petrol was hugely more powerful, frugal and sounded just as great if not better thanks to the exhaust. (stock BMW)

Chalk and cheese type of cars and the age at which they were designed/built. But he would easily crack 30mpg and he drives like TB...

So when I started looking for a replacement thanks to ULEZ, I was drawn to an N55 block 3.0 petrol BMW. From what I see generally very reliable unless you go track with them and tune them up hard.

Pop these engines in Eco mode and it allows the car/engine to coast. This I found has a big effect on fuel use and can really make it drop. It's also very efficient on the motorway, even for a short period. I often join the M25 after leaving work with MPG around ~24-27mpg. Usually like to win the traffic light grand prix drags now  ;D

But just 15 mins and it's low 30's and I'll average 33mpg or so by the time I'm home. That's sitting in the BMW lane as well, not doing 60. These engines much prefer doing 75-95mph.

I could never find a m235i in the spec I wanted, BMW's are a nightmare due to options when looking second hand. So you have to go through all the photos in detail to see what it actually has. I wanted Pro Nav, Parking Senors (front/rear) *yes each was an option  ::), memory mirrors and cruise. But even this basic shopping list was hard to find, always one would be missing.

Stroke of luck and I found my 435i with all the trimming on it plus ones I did not expect. (HUD, Memory Seats, Adaptive Lights)

Not sure this engine and more weight would help in the 5 series, I do notice the performance loss between m235i and my 435i, but his was 325bhp mine is 302bhp. Think the B58's would be a better choice and a stage one remap brings those up I think to nearly 430bhp.

At some point I'm very tempted to Stage1 mine, as it would go from 302bhp to 380bhp!! But I also need some pocket money to upgrade the charge pipe first.

If little fatty can get over the badge, I think this engine (or B58) in something like a 4 series could suit him. I don't find the ride harsh, as this was before the "M" lite type was officially born.

Current car my lift share buddy has is a 2021 m235i, but this is the 4 door one and "only" a 4 pot petrol but still makes 300bhp. We find mine sounds a heck of a lot better and not a massive difference in fuel use.

To sum up, 30mpg on a mixed drive into outskirts of London is no problem. Longer runs, mid 30's very easily even if cruising in outside lane.

No HUD on my car......but I did order the heated memory seats (no cooling though) that are standard on the M3 and M4.



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« Reply #33 on: 27 December 2023, 12:51:57 »

What did you order? HUD is brilliant, feels odd to look at the normal speedo cluster now. Having your speed right in the road in front of you. Course it's all fine without, one of those things that once you have it, you don't want to live without it.

Radio/Music etc. Traffic navigation is excellent even on my early generation one, round-abouts, junctions, motorways it gives fantastic detail and the latest generations are much improved as well with even more data/info.
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Re: Petrol consumption.
« Reply #34 on: 27 December 2023, 13:01:22 »

What did you order?[highlight] HUD is brilliant[/highlight], feels odd to look at the normal speedo cluster now. Having your speed right in the road in front of you. Course it's all fine without, one of those things that once you have it, you don't want to live without it.

Radio/Music etc. Traffic navigation is excellent even on my early generation one, round-abouts, junctions, motorways it gives fantastic detail and the latest generations are much improved as well with even more data/info.

I had a test drive in a 3.3 litre petrol Kia Stinger and that had HUD as standard....and yes it was very good.

I tried to keep the cost down so I didn't tick too many options.

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Portimao blue paint £595

Adaptive dampers £550

M3 seats £950ish...I think.

Propack.....£1250.

Aluminium dash trim...£200 ish.


I didn't go for the comfort pack (around £600) which included keyless and a heated steering wheel.

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« Reply #35 on: 27 December 2023, 14:01:05 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo? Car share mate was close to ordering one, but he likes the 4 doors of his current m235i. Adaptive Dampers was a good call, a rare option out there second hand I find.

I would have taken the heated steering wheel, assume you have the car now? As I only found out recently (on the F36 at least) that if you have lane assist, you can just add the button and code in a heated steering wheel, as it comes with the elements already.
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« Reply #36 on: 27 December 2023, 14:16:45 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo?………

New 240i I believe.  :y

He’s a mid sixties hooligan. ;D   ;)  :-*
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« Reply #37 on: 27 December 2023, 14:18:29 »

Ah yes, the they went back to 40i, they keep mixing it around. Used to launch with 35i then later 40i.

Can have a BMW meetup at this rate.  ;D
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« Reply #38 on: 27 December 2023, 14:20:21 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo?………

New 240i I believe.  :y

He’s a mid thirties hooligan. ;D   ;)  :-*

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« Reply #39 on: 27 December 2023, 14:23:07 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo? Car share mate was close to ordering one, but he likes the 4 doors of his current m235i. Adaptive Dampers was a good call, a rare option out there second hand I find.

I would have taken the heated steering wheel, assume you have the car now? As I only found out recently (on the F36 at least) that if you have lane assist, you can just add the button and code in a heated steering wheel, as it comes with the elements already.

I have lane assist. It is dangerous and can't be permanently disabled, so I have to switch it off every time I start the car. :-\
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« Reply #40 on: 27 December 2023, 14:27:48 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo? Car share mate was close to ordering one, but he likes the 4 doors of his current m235i. Adaptive Dampers was a good call, a rare option out there second hand I find.

I would have taken the heated steering wheel, assume you have the car now? As I only found out recently (on the F36 at least) that if you have lane assist, you can just add the button and code in a heated steering wheel, as it comes with the elements already.

I have lane assist. It is dangerous and can't be permanently disabled, so I have to switch it off every time I start the car. :-\

I understand you can dial it all back to being basically off and set it to the driver profile. Yes I agree, I hated it on the 2021 version I borrowed for the weekend. Went for an overtake and the damn thing nearly steered me into the car I was passing!  >:(

You can also disable I think via Bimmercode.
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« Reply #41 on: 27 December 2023, 14:28:13 »

On another note, this is my best attempt at fuel use in my big thirsty 3.0 petrol  :)

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« Reply #42 on: 27 December 2023, 14:33:07 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo? Car share mate was close to ordering one, but he likes the 4 doors of his current m235i. Adaptive Dampers was a good call, a rare option out there second hand I find.

I would have taken the heated steering wheel, assume you have the car now? As I only found out recently (on the F36 at least) that if you have lane assist, you can just add the button and code in a heated steering wheel, as it comes with the elements already.

I have lane assist. It is dangerous and can't be permanently disabled, so I have to switch it off every time I start the car. :-\

Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile
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« Reply #43 on: 27 December 2023, 15:43:29 »

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Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile

You can also set different profiles on each key fob so it'll remember the seat/mirror/radio station etc of whoever uses that fob.  :y
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« Reply #44 on: 27 December 2023, 16:07:58 »

.........
Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile

You can also set different profiles on each key fob so it'll remember the seat/mirror/radio station etc of whoever uses that fob.  :y
A feature available on the E39 too :D
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« Reply #45 on: 27 December 2023, 17:51:43 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo? Car share mate was close to ordering one, but he likes the 4 doors of his current m235i. Adaptive Dampers was a good call, a rare option out there second hand I find.

I would have taken the heated steering wheel, assume you have the car now? As I only found out recently (on the F36 at least) that if you have lane assist, you can just add the button and code in a heated steering wheel, as it comes with the elements already.

I have lane assist. It is dangerous and can't be permanently disabled, so I have to switch it off every time I start the car. :-\

Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile

BMW don't care much for physical buttons these days. Everything is hidden deep in the touchscreen menu. :-[

Initially it took 6 prods to disable lane assist. It now takes 3 prods using a shortcut.

Not good enough BMW. :-X
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« Reply #46 on: 27 December 2023, 18:22:03 »

.........
Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile

You can also set different profiles on each key fob so it'll remember the seat/mirror/radio station etc of whoever uses that fob.  :y

Nope. :)

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« Reply #47 on: 27 December 2023, 19:09:02 »

.........
Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile

You can also set different profiles on each key fob so it'll remember the seat/mirror/radio station etc of whoever uses that fob.  :y

Nope. :)

Is that because Mrs Opti is only allwed to drive her Corsa?  ;D
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« Reply #48 on: 27 December 2023, 19:48:48 »

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Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile

You can also set different profiles on each key fob so it'll remember the seat/mirror/radio station etc of whoever uses that fob.  :y

Nope. :)

Is that because Mrs Opti is only allwed to drive her Corsa?  ;D

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« Reply #49 on: 27 December 2023, 21:05:06 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo? Car share mate was close to ordering one, but he likes the 4 doors of his current m235i. Adaptive Dampers was a good call, a rare option out there second hand I find.

I would have taken the heated steering wheel, assume you have the car now? As I only found out recently (on the F36 at least) that if you have lane assist, you can just add the button and code in a heated steering wheel, as it comes with the elements already.

I have lane assist. It is dangerous and can't be permanently disabled, so I have to switch it off every time I start the car. :-\

Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile

Hello tunnie, nice to see you posting on the forum. Pension and share options doing well?
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« Reply #50 on: 27 December 2023, 23:04:17 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo? Car share mate was close to ordering one, but he likes the 4 doors of his current m235i. Adaptive Dampers was a good call, a rare option out there second hand I find.

I would have taken the heated steering wheel, assume you have the car now? As I only found out recently (on the F36 at least) that if you have lane assist, you can just add the button and code in a heated steering wheel, as it comes with the elements already.

I have lane assist. It is dangerous and can't be permanently disabled, so I have to switch it off every time I start the car. :-\

Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile

BMW don't care much for physical buttons these days. Everything is hidden deep in the touchscreen menu. :-[

Initially it took 6 prods to disable lane assist. It now takes 3 prods using a shortcut.

Not good enough BMW. :-X

But have you saved it to your profile and set to individual, so it's your settings on each start with the same key?
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« Reply #51 on: 27 December 2023, 23:06:57 »

Ah nice, is that the new M235i that's in your photo? Car share mate was close to ordering one, but he likes the 4 doors of his current m235i. Adaptive Dampers was a good call, a rare option out there second hand I find.

I would have taken the heated steering wheel, assume you have the car now? As I only found out recently (on the F36 at least) that if you have lane assist, you can just add the button and code in a heated steering wheel, as it comes with the elements already.

I have lane assist. It is dangerous and can't be permanently disabled, so I have to switch it off every time I start the car. :-\

Few things:

1) Are you logged into your driver profile?
2) Have you disabled it? (press the lane assist circle button) - Disable steering intervention
3) Select individual mode


*also link your key to your profile

Hello tunnie, nice to see you posting on the forum. Pension and share options doing well?

Good to see you as well!

Ah yes, I'm still the poster-chap at work for Sharesave, always getting people to sign up at work. Does us very well, takes all 5 of us on family holidays. Done Seville, Spain. *hot! - This year we went to Venice for the week.

Not sure for 2024, thinking maybe Sweden.  :)
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« Reply #52 on: 28 December 2023, 00:10:49 »

Excellent.

We are on holiday in Sanlucar de Barrameda ( ( near Cadiz) at the moment. Seville is great but not in the summer. Murderously hot!
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« Reply #53 on: 28 December 2023, 11:01:40 »

Excellent.

We are on holiday in Sanlucar de Barrameda ( ( near Cadiz) at the moment. Seville is great but not in the summer. Murderously hot!

Yeah, we found that out, 42c at some points! The up side was it was not that busy and the kids loved the water park. Also I think we were the only English people for miles, entire hotel we only noticed one other English family!

Soon blended in with the local familys, having tapas outside a restaurant at midnight.  :)

Think that's why we spotted Sadiq Khan, he would not be spotted. I resisted the urge to go over and punch him  ;D
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« Reply #54 on: 28 December 2023, 12:26:47 »

Excellent.

We are on holiday in Sanlucar de Barrameda ( ( near Cadiz) at the moment. Seville is great but not in the summer. Murderously hot!

Yeah, we found that out, 42c at some points! The up side was it was not that busy and the kids loved the water park. Also I think we were the only English people for miles, entire hotel we only noticed one other English family!

Soon blended in with the local familys, having tapas outside a restaurant at midnight.  :)

Think that's why we spotted Sadiq Khan, he would not be spotted. I resisted the urge to go over and punch him ;D

Shame.  >:D
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« Reply #55 on: 28 December 2023, 13:17:49 »

BMW don't care much for physical buttons these days. Everything is hidden deep in the touchscreen menu. :-[
It is something that puts me off newer BMWs. Although they are not alone in this stupidity.  I assume its what the kiddie winks want nowadays?
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« Reply #56 on: 28 December 2023, 13:39:11 »

BMW don't care much for physical buttons these days. Everything is hidden deep in the touchscreen menu. :-[
It is something that puts me off newer BMWs. Although they are not alone in this stupidity.  I assume its what the kiddie winks want nowadays?
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« Reply #57 on: 28 December 2023, 16:36:15 »

Excellent.

We are on holiday in Sanlucar de Barrameda ( ( near Cadiz) at the moment. Seville is great but not in the summer. Murderously hot!

Yeah, we found that out, 42c at some points! The up side was it was not that busy and the kids loved the water park. Also I think we were the only English people for miles, entire hotel we only noticed one other English family!

Soon blended in with the local familys, having tapas outside a restaurant at midnight.  :)

Think that's why we spotted Sadiq Khan, he would not be spotted. I resisted the urge to go over and punch him ;D

Why ffs ? Great opportunities dont come along very often in life, and we should grab them when they present themselves.  :D
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