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Omega losing power
« on: 09 August 2015, 17:56:02 »

Hi all.

My Omega has been losing power as if running out of petrol, then after a couple of seconds the power comes back.

I have a coolant leak and have to keep topping it up. I'm not sure if the two problems are related.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance. :y

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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #1 on: 09 August 2015, 18:02:25 »

When was the fuel filter last replaced ...if ever ??
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #2 on: 09 August 2015, 18:13:20 »

When was the fuel filter last replaced ...if ever ??

I'm not sure to be honest. I've only had the car for 5 months. Should I change that part anyway?
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« Reply #3 on: 09 August 2015, 19:32:11 »

Saloon or estate and how much fuel is in it?
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #4 on: 09 August 2015, 20:28:28 »

Saloon or estate and how much fuel is in it?

It's an estate with 3-4 gallons in it.
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #5 on: 09 August 2015, 21:04:25 »

Would I be able to change the fuel filter myself or should I take it to the garage?

My health isn't too good at the moment though.
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« Reply #6 on: 09 August 2015, 22:36:24 »

They can be a sod to change if all rusted up and the plastic clips just break.....hence mine is being done by my local garage this week....what model omega have you got now Kate  :y
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #7 on: 10 August 2015, 00:48:00 »

They can be a sod to change if all rusted up and the plastic clips just break.....hence mine is being done by my local garage this week....what model omega have you got now Kate  :y

I've got 2000 2.5CD estate in blue. It's got parts such as the plenum off a 3.0 but I don't know why? ???

I'll leave the work to the garage then - been having problems with incredible pain in my legs and feet. I'm worried its a diabetic neuropathy so it's a bit scary.
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #8 on: 10 August 2015, 02:31:18 »

Any Fault Codes ?
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #9 on: 10 August 2015, 10:53:42 »

Hi Kate..that little job can be straight forward or if original filter or may be a long time since being changed then because it gets all off the dust,dirt and wet can be more trouble than its worth,,so as you do not feel up to scratch then leave it to them and put your feet up and rest,,,hope you feel better soon, :y
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« Reply #10 on: 10 August 2015, 11:41:22 »

Hi Kate..that little job can be straight forward or if original filter or may be a long time since being changed then because it gets all off the dust,dirt and wet can be more trouble than its worth,,so as you do not feel up to scratch then leave it to them and put your feet up and rest,,,hope you feel better soon, :y

Thanks, that's very kind of you. :y
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Re: Omega losing power
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #12 on: 10 August 2015, 11:47:19 »

My miggy.

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« Reply #13 on: 10 August 2015, 14:23:00 »

She's got Elite alloys now. :y
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #14 on: 10 August 2015, 15:53:42 »

Hi kate, not a mechanic, but are your  symtoms that the car surges and loss of power intermittent if so I have the same with my car and I possibly could save you spending time and money from replacing plugs, leads, filters ect, let me know.
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« Reply #15 on: 10 August 2015, 17:54:23 »

Hi kate, not a mechanic, but are your  symtoms that the car surges and loss of power intermittent if so I have the same with my car and I possibly could save you spending time and money from replacing plugs, leads, filters ect, let me know.

Well it drives normally most of the time then suddenly it loses power for a few seconds then the power comes back again.

I bought a fuel filter today, just in case. I want to have a go a fitting it but I'm a clumsy clot and I'll probably end up blowing myself up. ;D
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« Reply #16 on: 10 August 2015, 18:10:13 »

It's a bit far away at the moment....but you could come to the High Wycombe meet and get it looked at, as long as you can live with it and it doesn't get worse in the meantime. Just a thought ;)
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« Reply #17 on: 11 August 2015, 08:10:03 »

I have sets of 10 mm quad core leads over in ABS along with plugs and all filters. Let me know if you would require any

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« Reply #18 on: 11 August 2015, 13:14:44 »

It's a bit far away at the moment....but you could come to the High Wycombe meet and get it looked at, as long as you can live with it and it doesn't get worse in the meantime. Just a thought ;)

Yes that's a great idea, thanks. :y
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #19 on: 11 August 2015, 13:22:16 »

I have sets of 10 mm quad core leads over in ABS along with plugs and all filters. Let me know if you would require any

Keith B

Thanks Keith. I've bought a fuel filter but those parts would be very useful. Would you mind sending me a PM with the cost please? I'm on a limited budget as usual. Thanks very much. :y
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« Reply #20 on: 11 August 2015, 13:32:38 »

Hi, Ms. Kate.  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I'm sorry to hear that you're not feeling so chipper these days. :-\

With regard to the fuel filter, my local garage changed the oil and filter along with the the fuel filter for £20.

I supplied all the parts. :y :-* :-* :-*
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Re: Omega losing power
« Reply #21 on: 11 August 2015, 14:35:38 »

TBH, although changing the fuel filter should be done if it is original, I am not 100% that this is not something else.  If it was fuel filter I would have thought the power loss would be constant and not intermittent.

As you are local(ish) to me again if you fancy bringing it around on Sunday I can have a ganders.  I wont have time to do any work but I can have a butchers and plug in the reader to see if any of the live data gives us clues :y

I will be nursing a hangover working on kitty so I may need a break to remain motivated ;D
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« Reply #22 on: 11 August 2015, 19:10:43 »

TBH, although changing the fuel filter should be done if it is original, I am not 100% that this is not something else.  If it was fuel filter I would have thought the power loss would be constant and not intermittent.

As you are local(ish) to me again if you fancy bringing it around on Sunday I can have a ganders.  I wont have time to do any work but I can have a butchers and plug in the reader to see if any of the live data gives us clues :y

I will be nursing a hangover working on kitty so I may need a break to remain motivated ;D

Thanks Matt that's so kind of you. :y

I'm guessing you have moved house since I last saw you?
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« Reply #23 on: 11 August 2015, 19:14:02 »

Hi, Ms. Kate.  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I'm sorry to hear that you're not feeling so chipper these days. :-\

With regard to the fuel filter, my local garage changed the oil and filter along with the the fuel filter for £20.

I supplied all the parts. :y :-* :-* :-*

Thanks Doc. :y

Your local garage must be good. They'd probably charge £500 for that here in Basingstoke. ;D

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« Reply #24 on: 11 August 2015, 19:17:36 »

Btw, my daughter took her car to Kwik Fit in Warwick (I told her not to go there) to get her rear brakes sorted........

They quoted her £650. :o :o :o :o :o :o
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« Reply #25 on: 11 August 2015, 19:52:39 »

Btw, my daughter took her car to Kwik Fit in Warwick (I told her not to go there) to get her rear brakes sorted........

They quoted her £650. :o :o :o :o :o :o
How oppsing much :o

Just doing my accounts, and discs and pads for the back of the E Class were only £206.84 for Mercedes parts, allowing a very generous two hours labour, even Mercedes would struggle to make that reach £450.

Complete and utter cants >:( What's their number?
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« Reply #26 on: 11 August 2015, 20:09:37 »

TBH, although changing the fuel filter should be done if it is original, I am not 100% that this is not something else.  If it was fuel filter I would have thought the power loss would be constant and not intermittent.

As you are local(ish) to me again if you fancy bringing it around on Sunday I can have a ganders.  I wont have time to do any work but I can have a butchers and plug in the reader to see if any of the live data gives us clues :y

I will be nursing a hangover working on kitty so I may need a break to remain motivated ;D

Thanks Matt that's so kind of you. :y

I'm guessing you have moved house since I last saw you?

Indeed but not far, in fact it's closer to Basingstoke than the last place.
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« Reply #27 on: 11 August 2015, 20:10:34 »

Btw, my daughter took her car to Kwik Fit in Warwick (I told her not to go there) to get her rear brakes sorted........

They quoted her £650. :o :o :o :o :o :o

If its a french car that could be justified.

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« Reply #28 on: 11 August 2015, 20:12:33 »

Btw, my daughter took her car to Kwik Fit in Warwick (I told her not to go there) to get her rear brakes sorted........

They quoted her £650. :o :o :o :o :o :o

It be them Gold lined parts you see  ::)
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« Reply #29 on: 11 August 2015, 22:02:12 »

She bought the parts herself for £92 (discs and pads) and a mobile mechanic fitted them for her for £60.  :y

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« Reply #30 on: 11 August 2015, 22:12:14 »

Kate...just goes to show what robbing..rip off merchants they are...your daughter did well to walk away from them,,and why anyone would go to a place like that I will never understand. :y
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« Reply #31 on: 12 August 2015, 07:37:56 »

Interesting probem, Kate. It might help to trace the coolant leak. No drips from hoses, heater bypass valve, beneath water pump? Might be head gasket. I confirmed my HG failure by topping up header tank, running engine at idle until low coolant light came on; took an hour. No puddles under car, no sign of leaks, so I concluded HG failure.

Don't see how fuel filter would do it. Dying fuel pump might. Could be the mesh filter on pump intake partially clogged. No smell of fuel, is there? I have had corrosion around fuel pump outlet pipe create leaks.

In the olden days I have known faults like yours caused by icing in the air intake on misty days. Pipe get narrower, flow is restricted, engine finally stops. Driver gets out, scratches head, has cigarette, meanwhile engine heat melts ice. Driver starts engine, all is well again.

Other old problem was blocked fuel tank air intake. No air gets in, as fuel is pumped out pressure in tank lowers, eventually reducing fuel flow so engine loses power. Driver removes filler cap, relieving vacuum, engine then runs fine again. Easily checked, run it without filler cap.

Don't live on a farm, do you? Mice nesting in the air filter could do it.
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« Reply #32 on: 12 August 2015, 11:33:58 »

Hi, Ms. Kate.  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I'm sorry to hear that you're not feeling so chipper these days. :-\

With regard to the fuel filter, my local garage changed the oil and filter along with the the fuel filter for £20.

I supplied all the parts. :y :-* :-* :-*

Thanks Doc. :y

Your local garage must be good. They'd probably charge £500 for that here in Basingstoke. ;D

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Flash a bit of leg, Ms. Kate.....or anything else. :-* :-* :-*

This will give you a 90% discount. :y
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« Reply #33 on: 12 August 2015, 14:42:35 »

Hi kate, not a mechanic, but are your  symtoms that the car surges and loss of power intermittent if so I have the same with my car and I possibly could save you spending time and money from replacing plugs, leads, filters ect, let me know.
Hi Kate, first had car analyzed, came up airflow meter, fitted new, no change, had a second analyzer nothing showing.  Went to Vauxhall main dealer on analyzer nothing came up, they said new plugs, new leads did that no change wasters. Was recommended to a Vauxhall garage (not main dealer) the only one that took car out connected to an analyzer it came showing one of the EGR valves was week replaced, cleaned idle valve no different. Suspect possible ECU or wiring fault, the saga goes on!!!  >:(  One good thing out of it all new parts that didn't work were replaced with old again. Is there anyone that can help with this problem, now looking to a garage to test ECU, no one local!!
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« Reply #34 on: 12 August 2015, 18:40:22 »

It's frustrating when there are lots of possibilities. >:(

I got some k-seal and that seems to have stopped the coolant leak. I know it's not the best solution but it was the only thing I could afford. :-\

It didn't fix the power loss problem though obviously.

There has been a strong smell of petrol a couple of times I have noticed when starting her up.
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« Reply #35 on: 12 August 2015, 20:24:17 »

It's frustrating when there are lots of possibilities. >:(

I got some k-seal and that seems to have stopped the coolant leak. I know it's not the best solution but it was the only thing I could afford. :-\

It didn't fix the power loss problem though obviously.

There has been a strong smell of petrol a couple of times I have noticed when starting her up.
It's worth tracing that fuel leak now! You smell it on start up becuse you are stationary, but it's leaking all the time. When next you start up, get out of the car and locate the smell, by nose. It's probably at the driver's side rear of the car. If so, stop the engine, open the boot, peel back the carpet and find the plate in the floor above the fuel pump. Remove the plate. Start engine, look in boot at fuel pipes above pump, note the fine spray of petrol from the outlet pipe. Rectify.
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« Reply #36 on: 12 August 2015, 21:04:54 »

I'd take up Guffer's offer Kate, whilst he probably won't have time to fix it, he should be able to rule out a few things :y
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« Reply #37 on: 12 August 2015, 21:29:00 »

Agree with TB,you do need a baseline to work from,otherwise it's going to be the trying to hit a barn door with a shotgun effect which may well cause you to spend money on non essential parts......if it were me I would bite his hand off :y
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« Reply #38 on: 12 August 2015, 21:56:07 »

Yes I already messaged him, I'm going on Sunday. :y
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« Reply #39 on: 15 August 2015, 09:40:04 »

It's frustrating when there are lots of possibilities. >:(

I got some k-seal and that seems to have stopped the coolant leak. I know it's not the best solution but it was the only thing I could afford. :-\

Didnt we talk about this last time? >:( ::) :)
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« Reply #40 on: 15 August 2015, 14:46:35 »

Btw, my daughter took her car to Kwik Fit in Warwick (I told her not to go there) to get her rear brakes sorted........

They quoted her £650. :o :o :o :o :o :o

If its a french car that could be justified.

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« Reply #41 on: 15 August 2015, 16:00:28 »

Just done service on Wifes 1998 clit Alize which she has had for past 11 years and hasnt given a spot of trouble ....well the ECU did give up 4 years ago but thats about it.

Maybe we have been lucky but it has been damn reliable and has 130k on it now..bit tatty as got keyed when daughter used to use it and park in some less than pleasant places locally but fingers crossed it lasts a while longer.

Worth sod all but almost nothing to run either  :y
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« Reply #42 on: 15 August 2015, 19:02:33 »

It's frustrating when there are lots of possibilities. >:(

I got some k-seal and that seems to have stopped the coolant leak. I know it's not the best solution but it was the only thing I could afford. :-\

Didnt we talk about this last time? >:( ::) :)



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« Reply #43 on: 16 August 2015, 08:19:55 »

Hi Kate,
I've just investigated what I thought was a petrol leak on my wife's 1.4l Corsa and it turned out to be one of the breather pipes completely split open down its full length allowing fumes to be drawn in by the heater fan. Smelled just like a serious petrol leak but nowhere like as difficult to fix.
Not sure whether Omega can produce same effect but it's worth checking first.
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« Reply #44 on: 16 August 2015, 17:23:41 »

A big thanks to Monsieur Guffer for having a look at her today. :y

It turns out that the radiator has a leak on the top right plastic-looking bit and this might have been spraying coolant onto the battery and causing a short.

There was no sign of a petrol leak.

I'm going to look for a new radiator so any suggestions as where to get one from would be much appreciated.

Thanks again MG. :y
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« Reply #45 on: 16 August 2015, 17:25:07 »

It's frustrating when there are lots of possibilities. >:(

I got some k-seal and that seems to have stopped the coolant leak. I know it's not the best solution but it was the only thing I could afford. :-\

Didnt we talk about this last time? >:( ::) :)



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That stuff is lethal  :-X

Well I drank the whole bottle and I'm fine. Can't have a pee though. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #46 on: 16 August 2015, 18:09:43 »

A big thanks to Monsieur Guffer for having a look at her today. :y

It turns out that the radiator has a leak on the top right plastic-looking bit and this might have been spraying coolant onto the battery and causing a short.

There was no sign of a petrol leak.

I'm going to look for a new radiator so any suggestions as where to get one from would be much appreciated.

Thanks again MG. :y

It was just the coolant residue on the battery itself which made me think of this.  The leak is on the top NHS of the rad, a crack in the plastic.  Under idle and it mostly just trickles but we saw a huge amount come out and I can imagine that under load that coolant would spray up.   This spray would hit the lpastic trim which kindly seems to angle the spray on to the battery.

This is just supposition at the moment but putting everything together (including that the k-seal had stopped it for a bit) lead me to this idea.  I think it best to deal with that possibility before going down rabbit holes unecessarily.

So in my best bodge we have stuck a piece of plastic sheet over the battery and stuck it down while Kate finds a new rad.  If it doesn't happen again while that sheet is in place and after the rad leak is fixed then I think we can be fairly sure that was the cause.

If it does happen look at the battery light on the dash and pull over as soon as you can to check the moisture around the battery. :y
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« Reply #47 on: 16 August 2015, 21:05:59 »

Hi Kate...does your radiator have an oil cooler incorporated in it,,????
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« Reply #49 on: 16 August 2015, 23:05:59 »

Hi Kate...does your radiator have an oil cooler incorporated in it,,????

I don't know.
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« Reply #50 on: 16 August 2015, 23:15:48 »

It's frustrating when there are lots of possibilities. >:(

I got some k-seal and that seems to have stopped the coolant leak. I know it's not the best solution but it was the only thing I could afford. :-\

Didnt we talk about this last time? >:( ::) :)



 ;D

That stuff is lethal  :-X

Well I drank the whole bottle and I'm fine. Can't have a pee though. ;D ;D ;D

 ;D

Just fitted one of Theses...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281089791116?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Nothing more to say really ;)

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« Reply #51 on: 16 August 2015, 23:21:31 »

Hi Kate...does your radiator have an oil cooler incorporated in it,,????

I don't know.
Either has two metal pipes connected to the driver side or two metal pipes going over the top edge, about six inches from driver side end ;)

Is actually irrelevant as the rad I linked to has the mounting points for both :y
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« Reply #52 on: 17 August 2015, 05:10:44 »

I thought all autos had the oil cooler element? :-\
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« Reply #53 on: 17 August 2015, 05:17:23 »

I thought all autos had the oil cooler element? :-\
They do :y the question is where... Earlier cars have it in the main rad, later ones have a separate one sat between the rad and condenser...
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« Reply #54 on: 17 August 2015, 09:54:35 »

I think the separate transmission cooler came in with the 2.6/3.2?
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« Reply #55 on: 17 August 2015, 11:02:37 »

Kate's is def a 2.5, could be W plate IIRC
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« Reply #56 on: 17 August 2015, 12:36:13 »

Kate's is def a 2.5, could be W plate IIRC

Pretty sure that would have it integrated with the coolant radiator. Doesn't really matter, as you can use the radiator with the cooler on any model. Just don't connect it up. :y
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« Reply #57 on: 17 August 2015, 16:27:36 »

Yes it's a 2000 2.5 W plate.

Would one of those eBay radiators be any good?
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« Reply #58 on: 17 August 2015, 16:30:22 »

Yes it's a 2000 2.5 W plate.

Would one of those eBay radiators be any good?
Yup, perfect for ANY V6 Omega :y
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« Reply #59 on: 17 August 2015, 20:26:06 »

Yes it's a 2000 2.5 W plate.

Would one of those eBay radiators be any good?
Yup, perfect for ANY V6 Omega :y

I think I'll get one of those then, thanks. :y
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« Reply #60 on: 17 August 2015, 23:13:05 »

Have we any idea what is causing the power loss?
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« Reply #61 on: 17 August 2015, 23:35:14 »

Coolant leak in battery area causing electrical interference  :y
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« Reply #62 on: 28 August 2015, 08:11:10 »

Any news, Kate?
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« Reply #63 on: 28 August 2015, 08:23:51 »

Any news, Kate?
Guffer bought it and is now trying to figure out how to get all the K seal out of it ::)
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« Reply #64 on: 28 August 2015, 09:46:58 »

Any news, Kate?
Guffer bought it and is now trying to figure out how to get all the K seal out of it ::)

Tonight's job:

- rad off
- flush the coolant to within an inch of it's life
- flush again
- brew
- flush once more
- throw rad away
- flush the heater matrix until the output is drinkable ::)

When new rad arrives:
- fit new rad
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« Reply #65 on: 30 August 2015, 11:14:14 »

Any news, Kate?
Guffer bought it and is now trying to figure out how to get all the K seal out of it ::)

Tonight's job:

- rad off
- flush the coolant to within an inch of it's life
- flush again
- brew
- flush once more
- throw rad away
- flush the heater matrix until the output is drinkable ::)

When new rad arrives:
- fit new rad

Well I was going to do all that but I was a too busy. ;D
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