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[Kevin Wood]

Might be worth taking it to an auto box specialist and see what they reckon after a quick look.

I'm thinking it could be a core plug or cover plate that has oil pressure behind it, in which case it may be an easy fix with the gearbox in-situ.

[tigers_gonads]

I've used Wynns in the past on cars with varying levels of success.
From what I remember, it works best if added during a oil change.
If it works, it should be used as a stopgap until you fix the root of the problem OR sell the car 

[omega3000]

I've used Wynns in the past on cars with varying levels of success.
From what I remember, it works best if added during a oil change.
If it works, it should be used as a stopgap until you fix the root of the problem OR sell the car 

+1 and stp . Not had much luck with any of them though , vectra just burnt it 

[Andy A]

A friend used some ATP AT-205 and recommended it. Note used it myself.

[martin42]

I've used Wynns in the past on cars with varying levels of success.
From what I remember, it works best if added during a oil change.
If it works, it should be used as a stopgap until you fix the root of the problem OR sell the car 

+1 and stp . Not had much luck with any of them though , vectra just burnt it 

Thats because your valve stem seals were not seated correctly lol.

[omega3000]

I've used Wynns in the past on cars with varying levels of success.
From what I remember, it works best if added during a oil change.
If it works, it should be used as a stopgap until you fix the root of the problem OR sell the car 

+1 and stp . Not had much luck with any of them though , vectra just burnt it 

Thats because your valve stem seals were not seated correctly lol.

Oh yeah , one of them was though 

[Grrrrrr]

Well, if it continues to give a puff of smoke on startup I'll have to get rid of it as it niggles me - although not enough to try stripping it down to the valve-stem seals! I'll give the Forte a shot. Sounds like I have a 50/50 chance of success.

BMW and Audi prices are just having a giraffe.

Tried a Jaguar X-type - ride nowhere near as good. Tried a Jaguar S-type - ride almost as good as the miggy but bloody scarily light steering above 70 mph.

Seen various CL500 Mercs and even a CLS55 - all corroding to death. Tried an SLK today. Better ride and went OK but bl**dy tiny. No-way I can fit all the family inside.

For decent performance, comfort and ride quality you just cannot beat a mig for the money! Oh, and durability. There's no rust on mine at all. Clean underneath. You should have seen the underside of some of the cars I've looked at recently.

If only the Monaro prices would fall back down where they were a few years back. There's a nice car ...

[dbug]

When you talk about a blanking plate above the oil level do you mean something ont eh side of the gearbox? Makes me wonder if it's a core plug in the gearbox that's leaking. Otherwise, most likely to be the input shaft seal, as said. That's an easy fix, once the gearbox has been removed.

As said most likely gearbox input shaft seal - if you ignore it will deteriorate mare and it will dump the contents of your autobox

Part is only a couple of quid, and once box out (about 1.5 hours working underneath, lower with large jack as it is heavy!!), from memory three screws holds the old one in, take it out, carefully fit new one over shaft (wrap shaft in tape to protect new seal), remove tape and refit box and torque converter.  Would have thought a half decent garage would have done that rather than keep topping up ATF at £20 a go

[Bigron]

Ugh, that IS bad news for me, dbug! Looks like it's end of life for the car, as I can't do the job myself and my pension won't stretch to having the garage do it at their labour rates.....

Ron.

[dbug]

Ugh, that IS bad news for me, dbug! Looks like it's end of life for the car, as I can't do the job myself and my pension won't stretch to having the garage do it at their labour rates.....

Ron.

Should be well within the scope of OOF mobile mechanics - may be worth contacting them

[Grrrrrr]

Well, I've bunged a tube of Forte in. Done about 300 miles. I'd say the smoke has reduced by two-thirds, maybe three quarters. I'll see if it is better in another week or so.

[Bigron]

That's great news, "Grrrrrr"!
Back in the days when the streets were black and white and cars were simple, I once changed the valve stem seals on a BMC A-series engine (in an A30) without taking the cylinder head off - but I cannot remember how I did it! It was a long time ago.....

Ron.

[Grrrrrr]

Further update: it did get better but started to get worse again. Figured kill or cure so bunged another tube in. Now MUCH better but still not 100%. I fear that it'll reverse back out again.

Valve stem seals: looks a fairly major job. Looks like the Vectras of the time had the same issue. I just don't have the time, even if I could bodge my way through.

Not losing enough oil to worry about but that little puff on startup does niggle - or will when it becomes noticeable again. Car's only done 88k miles so that's a bit disappointing.

Looking around I see the Jaguar X and S-types are looking rather reasonable for the value. Something to think about.

[Kevin Wood]

Looking around I see the Jaguar X and S-types are looking rather reasonable for the value. Something to think about.

Some much worse issues to contend with than a couple of valve stem seals, though.

[Grrrrrr]

Nice looking car though. Go OK too. If there were a 3.2 miggy at the right price I might be tempted though.