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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #15 on: 21 July 2016, 13:05:12 »

I would imagine it will have a dipstick fitted which will need to be removed, and its arpeture blanked off.
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #16 on: 21 July 2016, 13:14:25 »

Just a thought.. you could give this bloke a ring and see if he can shine any light on your thoughts.
I was in there a few years ago talking to him about AR25 and solenoids and he seemed clued up on the omega box...

http://www.mechanicalworkshop.co.uk/

Cheers BT, I'll give him a bell. :y
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #17 on: 21 July 2016, 13:15:42 »

The shifting behaviour is all electronically controlled by signals to the solenoids, as said, and you'll be keeping the Omega's ECU, so no problems there.

What you might find is that some of the connectors and wiring are different. You'll have everything you need on the old box and I'd imagine it'll swap straight over. All I'm reporting is heresay, however, so please don't take it as gospel. Autobahnstormers would probably be the place to ask for definitive information. :y

Thanks, BG is kindly doing that for me. :y
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #18 on: 21 July 2016, 13:32:11 »

The Sonax thrust washer was never fitted by GM, it will still have the chocolate and nylon variety, so that wants fitting anyway for the ultimate upgrade.

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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #19 on: 21 July 2016, 13:38:35 »

Do they just disintegrate whatever, or is it just an issue mostly with the AR35s, with higher torque being put through them?
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #20 on: 21 July 2016, 14:01:24 »

Do they just disintegrate whatever, or is it just an issue mostly with the AR35s, with higher torque being put through them?

The plastic goes brittle. :)
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #21 on: 21 July 2016, 14:09:31 »

Thanks  :y
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #22 on: 21 July 2016, 14:41:14 »

The Sonax thrust washer was never fitted by GM, it will still have the chocolate and nylon variety, so that wants fitting anyway for the ultimate upgrade.

Thanks Mark. :y
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #23 on: 21 July 2016, 14:59:23 »

Yes I would say its an age thing where the plastic goes brittle then couple it with older oil that has failing lube properties and they crack and fall off.
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #24 on: 21 July 2016, 19:54:26 »

Right lot of assumptions here by me.

I would think the senators' gear box uses a different selector switch, can't see the internal wires being different,you really need both boxes side by side, to check.
T.i.s might help, remember senator was still available when the omega was released.
Very last senators had coil-packs, and brakes were carried over.
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #25 on: 21 July 2016, 20:16:31 »

Thanks BG, yes I anticipated changing the selector. I phoned two autobox specialists today, who both think the internals are the same. What are T.I.'s? :y
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #26 on: 21 July 2016, 20:23:42 »

Thanks BG, yes I anticipated changing the selector. I phoned two autobox specialists today, who both think the internals are the same. What are T.I.'s? :y
Did you speak to the old bloke at the link i gave you  :-\
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #27 on: 21 July 2016, 20:47:08 »

Tis 2000. God software.

Changing over looms should be easy enough. I was going to do this to my v70 but it blew out the transmission pipes in the snow. So i never got to change the box

Is there a problem with having a dipstick?
Would make life easier to check the condition of the oil

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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #28 on: 21 July 2016, 22:15:24 »

I believe the dipstick was deleted for the Omega because it wouldn't physically fit the car ?  :-\
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Re: Fitting an AR35 from Senator
« Reply #29 on: 21 July 2016, 22:29:59 »

Thanks BG, yes I anticipated changing the selector. I phoned two autobox specialists today, who both think the internals are the same. What are T.I.'s? :y
Did you speak to the old bloke at the link i gave you  :-\

No reply today, I'll try again. :y
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