Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Welcome to OOF

Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts  (Read 4471 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

zirk

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Epping Forest
  • Posts: 11431
  • 3.2 Manual Special Saloon ReMapped and LPG'd and
    • 3.2 Manual Special Estate
    • View Profile
Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« on: 16 February 2016, 18:30:19 »

This is probably a load of old Bollards but was having a chat with someone who's a Parts / Service Manager for one of the Nissan Dealers, some how we got on the subject of SatNavs, and he mentioned certain Map Disks for Nissan are compatible with Opel / Vx HU's and have the added benefit of being able to add UK Speed Camera Data?, any one come across this???

I'm kinda of guessing later NCDC units rather than the older Carin?
« Last Edit: 16 February 2016, 18:39:59 by iZirk »
Logged

Dave DND

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • DND Services Ltd
  • Posts: 4216
    • Paignton, Devon
    • View Profile
    • DND Services Ltd
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #1 on: 17 February 2016, 10:05:54 »

Can`t see it myself  :-\

In the olden days, when CARIN was about, quite a few other marques also fitted it too, so there may be some merit in that

But you are talking of a system that has been obsolete for near 15 years now  ::)
Logged
Radio & Decoding Technician
In Car Audio Service Department
www.dndservices.co.uk

zirk

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Epping Forest
  • Posts: 11431
  • 3.2 Manual Special Saloon ReMapped and LPG'd and
    • 3.2 Manual Special Estate
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #2 on: 17 February 2016, 16:51:33 »

My thoughts exactly, gut feeling is he may be a bit miss informed, although he's been with Nissan a few years now.

Thought I'd post up just in case we were missing a trick.

He may be able to get me a disk, over stock levels allowing, which could be interesting as half the Vx HU's these days wont even read a proper Vx one.  ;D 
Logged

VXL V6

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Solihull
  • Posts: 9825
    • 530D M Sport, Elite 3.2
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #3 on: 17 February 2016, 18:15:17 »

Would be interesting to compare the file structure - folders, contents etc.

I've previously wondered if you could copy later compatible mapping data (Navteq for NCDx) into the correct location on a imaged version of the last (2011) map disc. I'm sure it's not that simple though!
Logged

biggriffin

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • huntingdon, Hoof'land
  • Posts: 9758
    • Vectra in a posh frock.
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #4 on: 17 February 2016, 18:28:22 »

The number of computer nerds people,that haunt this forum,i'am sure the answer is out there :P
Logged
Hoof'land storeman.

zirk

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Epping Forest
  • Posts: 11431
  • 3.2 Manual Special Saloon ReMapped and LPG'd and
    • 3.2 Manual Special Estate
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #5 on: 17 February 2016, 18:29:57 »

The Speed Camera is just a database end of the day, anything from a CSV file upwards, a few years back when Nokia Maps stopped doing the Camera Base due to the French rules, I managed to copy a n other (Tom Tom I think) into the correct Directory and replaced a blank file with some success and got it working.
Logged

VXL V6

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Solihull
  • Posts: 9825
    • 530D M Sport, Elite 3.2
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #6 on: 17 February 2016, 18:37:12 »

Yep, I've used various free apps to convert POI files from one format to another with variable success.  :y

It's the updated maps that are of primary interest to me.
Logged

zirk

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Epping Forest
  • Posts: 11431
  • 3.2 Manual Special Saloon ReMapped and LPG'd and
    • 3.2 Manual Special Estate
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #7 on: 17 February 2016, 18:53:40 »

Yea, that could be a bit more challenging, Nokia Maps, now called Here Maps has, as far as I know, taken over Navtech Maps, so there could be some new issues that are backward compatible across various ranges.

website Here -  http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/-/-/-/Default-Start

Online Here Nav - https://maps.here.com
« Last Edit: 17 February 2016, 19:11:17 by iZirk »
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 105937
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #8 on: 17 February 2016, 19:17:46 »

More likely to be the "newer" 10yr old systems that the NCDC.  The software for the NCDC is on the actual map disk (ignoring the bollards that Navteq claim - they are completely wrong), and hasn't been updated since about 2005.
Logged
Grumpy old man

Dave DND

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • DND Services Ltd
  • Posts: 4216
    • Paignton, Devon
    • View Profile
    • DND Services Ltd
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #9 on: 18 February 2016, 09:58:08 »

In the early nineties, most Sat-Navs were standalone systems and it wouldn`t surprise me if software could be swapped as a Vauxhall CARIN, a Nissan CARIN and and aftermarket CARIN are pretty much the same unit - all displaying the Philips Logo and branding. I know that the replacement for the CARIN (when Philips became VDO DAYTON) did not use any backwards compatible software at the time and was heavily encrypted back then.

The "proper" sat navs that are integrated into the vehicle (ie high speed units for cars, as opposed to the cheap portable devices for hikers and bikers) all generally have some form of "update" on the disc for the operating system of the vehicle they are fitted to. Whilst there are very few Map/Software/Data providers that produce these discs, (usually Teleatlas or Navtech) and you may think that there should be some compatibilities there, don`t also forget that security software has also moved forwards leaps and bounds to prevent discs from being swapped as you are hoping. That said - if your can break the file structure to insert a later database - who knows?

I also have a deep suspicion (for the conspiricy theorists amongst you) that one of the reputable mapping providers for the VAG group has actually put a dodgy version online, where the download would corrupt the bios of the unit when loaded, with the underlying message of "stop using pirated software" and whilst we cannot prove this, we do see a good dozen Audi / VW Nav units here each week for the same problem !! Whoever wrote the software really knew what they were doing, as it also turns off the eject mech, so the counterfeit disc remains inside the unit.

Hmmm . . . .   

Logged
Radio & Decoding Technician
In Car Audio Service Department
www.dndservices.co.uk

BazaJT

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • SLady bitshorpe N.Lincs.
  • Posts: 9098
    • Omega 3 litre Elite
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #10 on: 18 February 2016, 19:35:04 »

OOOH,a conspiracy theory :D Much loved on here they are ;D ;D
Logged

VXL V6

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Solihull
  • Posts: 9825
    • 530D M Sport, Elite 3.2
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #11 on: 18 February 2016, 19:58:49 »

I'd heard something similar regarding the VAG units as well. Also heard of a few people using VAG-COM to upgrade the flash card versions and ending up trashing the maps and the language defaulting back to German  ;D
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 105937
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #12 on: 20 February 2016, 10:12:20 »

I'd heard something similar regarding the VAG units as well. Also heard of a few people using VAG-COM to upgrade the flash card versions and ending up trashing the maps and the language defaulting back to German  ;D
Vor you, tommy, ze vor iz over
Logged
Grumpy old man

biggriffin

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • huntingdon, Hoof'land
  • Posts: 9758
    • Vectra in a posh frock.
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #13 on: 20 February 2016, 16:35:18 »

Yea, that could be a bit more challenging, Nokia Maps, now called Here Maps has, as far as I know, taken over Navtech Maps, so there could be some new issues that are backward compatible across various ranges.

website Here -  http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/-/-/-/Default-Start
 £169.00 +£5.00 postage. Cheaper to buy a new standalone unit. :-X
Online Here Nav - https://maps.here.com
Logged
Hoof'land storeman.

Lazydocker

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Woodbridge, Suffolk
  • Posts: 18848
  • Constantly Bullied by a certain Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Opel, Vx Satnav Series HU's and Speed Camera Alerts
« Reply #14 on: 20 February 2016, 23:36:45 »

But a cheaper stand alone unit will always be inferior to the built in one.  ;)

Says the man who generally uses TomTom on his phone :-X ::) Unless going into a heavily built up area, in which case the one in the car runs along side, just in case ;)
Logged
Whatever it is... I didn't do it
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.035 seconds with 21 queries.