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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #30 on: 09 June 2011, 22:49:56 »

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Also, as I don't have enough bits of old loom kicking about any more, what grade wire do I need to build this loom up? Is it readily available at Craplins?
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Yeah, but I want to have it built before I go see him so I can feed it all through whilst we've got my stereo out to test his ;) He can help me feed it all through as payment for turning my car into an inferno ;D

Hopefully it wont come to that. Jammy was right, you do worry too much. :D ;D ;D
I could possibly post some wires to you if need be. ;)
Mute wire is black btw ;)
TBH, I'll just buy a roll of the correct cross section wire from craplins and make the loom up... It won't matter to me if it's all one colour as long as I make it up on the bench ;)
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #31 on: 09 June 2011, 22:52:23 »

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Also, as I don't have enough bits of old loom kicking about any more, what grade wire do I need to build this loom up? Is it readily available at Craplins?
Albs???????
Yeah, but I want to have it built before I go see him so I can feed it all through whilst we've got my stereo out to test his ;) He can help me feed it all through as payment for turning my car into an inferno ;D

Hopefully it wont come to that. Jammy was right, you do worry too much. :D ;D ;D
I could possibly post some wires to you if need be. ;)
Mute wire is black btw ;)
With your problems then all your wires must be that colour :D
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #32 on: 10 June 2011, 08:16:18 »

If going from TM loom, the wire colours vary with age of TM loom! Count the pins!

Check the fuses on the CK-7W, from memory, both are 2A, but double check. That will give some idea of power wire requirements.  Rest are all signal, so almost anything.

The audio must be screened, and one leg connected to screening as per VXL V6's post.


Until we can try one, its unknown if we need the mixer circuit, so bear that in mind. My circuit needs switched 12v, 0v, both audio inputs and audio output, so bear that in mind.  Until we get GayBoy's done, that remains unclear...


As to Autoleads, I think they have made an incorrect assumption. I have only ever used their standard cable (with no circuitry/relays/etc on).
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #33 on: 10 June 2011, 08:25:16 »

TBE is Bose equipped... What did you do when you fitted that one?
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #34 on: 10 June 2011, 08:31:06 »

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TBE is Bose equipped... What did you do when you fitted that one?
No Telematics in that, so slightly different.

I just used a generic (autoleads style, but 3rd party) lead.

Honestly, on the NCDC series (or any other factory fit radio from mini facelift onwards), why would Bose make any difference whatsoever ;)
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #35 on: 10 June 2011, 09:17:21 »

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Honestly, on the NCDC series (or any other factory fit radio from mini facelift onwards), why would Bose make any difference whatsoever ;)

Shouldn't be needed because the HF audio is going through the HU instead of direct to the speakers?

Am I right in my thinking there? :-/

But, as I have the Autoleads Telemute lead with the circuitry on it, is it worth me just butchering that to keep that as an option?
« Last Edit: 10 June 2011, 09:18:51 by Lazydocker »
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #36 on: 10 June 2011, 18:22:04 »

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The audio must be screened, and one leg connected to screening as per VXL V6's post.

Please confirm this is what I think... The Audio lines +ve (solid colour?) to pin 35, -ve (with the trace) to the screen, pin 36?

It that all that's involved? I have speaker wire to extend the audio to the HF kit but do I need something special?
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #37 on: 10 June 2011, 19:02:09 »

Is this any help LF?

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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #38 on: 10 June 2011, 19:22:04 »

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The audio must be screened, and one leg connected to screening as per VXL V6's post.

Please confirm this is what I think... The Audio lines +ve (solid colour?) to pin 35, -ve (with the trace) to the screen, pin 36?

It that all that's involved? I have speaker wire to extend the audio to the HF kit but do I need something special?

Sounds right to me, take shielded cable from the CarKit Audio out to the ISO Audio in (35/36), run the mute to the trafficmaster pink/blue pin.

I'd also fit an inline fuse on your +12V and +12V switched lines to the Car Kit.
« Last Edit: 10 June 2011, 19:26:51 by VXL_V6 »
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #39 on: 10 June 2011, 19:50:51 »

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Is this any help LF?


Not really! :-[ :-[ ::) ::)
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #40 on: 10 June 2011, 21:41:26 »

You keep saying "shielded cable"... I've only got maplins speaker cable... Is that ok?
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #41 on: 11 June 2011, 21:13:16 »

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2 - 12V switched (* double check that one!)
4 - 0V Ground
8 - 12V Permanent

35 - Audio +
36 - Audio shield

Right... Got some wire and bits to build up the loom...

Is the 12V switched correct on pin 2?

And, I have normal speaker wire... Is that OK for the audio?
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #42 on: 11 June 2011, 21:27:01 »

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Honestly, on the NCDC series (or any other factory fit radio from mini facelift onwards), why would Bose make any difference whatsoever ;)

Shouldn't be needed because the HF audio is going through the HU instead of direct to the speakers?

Am I right in my thinking there? :-/

But, as I have the Autoleads Telemute lead with the circuitry on it, is it worth me just butchering that to keep that as an option?
Nope
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #43 on: 11 June 2011, 21:28:02 »

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2 - 12V switched (* double check that one!)
4 - 0V Ground
8 - 12V Permanent

35 - Audio +
36 - Audio shield

Right... Got some wire and bits to build up the loom...

Is the 12V switched correct on pin 2?

And, I have normal speaker wire... Is that OK for the audio?

Far from ideal, but no harm will be done.  At worse, you'll have to rerun it.
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #44 on: 11 June 2011, 21:29:19 »

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2 - 12V switched (* double check that one!)
4 - 0V Ground
8 - 12V Permanent

35 - Audio +
36 - Audio shield

Right... Got some wire and bits to build up the loom...

Is the 12V switched correct on pin 2?

And, I have normal speaker wire... Is that OK for the audio?

Far from ideal, but no harm will be done.  At worse, you'll have to rerun it.

Why? ::)
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