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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #45 on: 11 June 2011, 21:34:42 »
It will be susceptable to interference...
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #46 on: 11 June 2011, 21:46:12 »
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It will be susceptable to interference...

Aahh... Don't suppose I can do anything to shield it?

Anyway... Are the pin out's correct?
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #47 on: 11 June 2011, 22:17:19 »
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ISO Pins

2 - 12V switched (* double check that one!)
4 - 0V Ground
8 - 12V Permanent

35 - Audio +
36 - Audio shield

Right... On My TM Loom (36 way, fully populated)

Pin 2 - Thinner Red - 12V Switched
Pin 4 - Chunky Brown - 0V Ground
Pin 8 - Chunky Red - 12V Permanent

35 and 36 relate to the 2 lower wires in this pic: (which is +ve from the jack plug normally?)



And mute is Pink with Blue trace on the above diagram (which goes to the car side of the TM loom

Does that look/sound right?
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #48 on: 12 June 2011, 11:18:18 »
CK7W    TM loom
Mute    'mute from phone'
Audio+  'audio signal from phone/cdc'
Audio-  'audio earth from phone/cdc'


I'd pick up power locally (but then I'd pick up audio locally, thus utilising the Vx sheilded audio cable ::)), to reduce loom size behind HU.

There is a suitable earth stud above where you put the nokia, and power is easily found up above glovebox
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #49 on: 12 June 2011, 12:24:31 »
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CK7W    TM loom
Mute    'mute from phone'
Audio+  'audio signal from phone/cdc'
Audio-  'audio earth from phone/cdc'


I'd pick up power locally (but then I'd pick up audio locally, thus utilising the Vx sheilded audio cable ::)), to reduce loom size behind HU.

There is a suitable earth stud above where you put the nokia, and power is easily found up above glovebox
Thanks. Don't really want to pick up power locally because I don't want to butcher the car loom or drop the glovebox  ;)

I'm sure the audio will be ok... At the end of the day the vehicle specific telemute leads don't use anything special ::)

As for loom size, I'll manage ::) An extra couple of wires to the TM loom can't make that much difference surely :-/
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #50 on: 12 June 2011, 12:57:45 »
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CK7W    TM loom
Mute    'mute from phone'
Audio+  'audio signal from phone/cdc'
Audio-  'audio earth from phone/cdc'


I'd pick up power locally (but then I'd pick up audio locally, thus utilising the Vx sheilded audio cable ::)), to reduce loom size behind HU.

There is a suitable earth stud above where you put the nokia, and power is easily found up above glovebox
Thanks. Don't really want to pick up power locally because I don't want to butcher the car loom or drop the glovebox  ;)

I'm sure the audio will be ok... At the end of the day the vehicle specific telemute leads don't use anything special ::)

As for loom size, I'll manage ::) An extra couple of wires to the TM loom can't make that much difference surely :-/
Autoleads is only 6" long. The audio from the prewiring socket to HU is proper audio cable.

Govebox is easy.

But, if you want to get the power from TM, VXL V6 did post up how earlier :y


Potentially, if you do need a mixer, that will need 12v, 0v, audio in from Nokia, audio in from Telematics, so you may still have to go into Telematics loom, or potentially run yet another cable...
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #51 on: 12 June 2011, 13:15:20 »
Need gayboy to get a move on and fit his really... Then I'll know for certain ::)

My biggest concern is blowing something :-[
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #52 on: 12 June 2011, 13:36:16 »
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Need gayboy to get a move on and fit his really... Then I'll know for certain ::)

My biggest concern is blowing something :-[
Its all pretty robust, as long as you get the power round the right way
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #53 on: 12 June 2011, 13:50:27 »
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Need gayboy to get a move on and fit his really... Then I'll know for certain ::)

My biggest concern is blowing something :-[
Its all pretty robust, as long as you get the power round the right way

I'm sure I can manage that :y :y

Just had a quick poke around the Autoleads site and they seem to think that the 4 digit stereo's are just a simple lead with no trickery involved so hopefully my home made one will be fine :y
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #54 on: 12 June 2011, 14:11:46 »
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Need gayboy to get a move on and fit his really... Then I'll know for certain ::)

My biggest concern is blowing something :-[
Its all pretty robust, as long as you get the power round the right way

I'm sure I can manage that :y :y

Just had a quick poke around the Autoleads site and they seem to think that the 4 digit stereo's are just a simple lead with no trickery involved so hopefully my home made one will be fine :y
Understand, Autoleads don't know their arse from their elbow. They make shite. Overpriced shite.

Get it out of your head that the special Bose Autoleads was ever, EVER required in any Omega. It wasn't.
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #55 on: 13 June 2011, 18:52:30 »
Right... Considering my current physical limitations and the fact I didn't start anything until about half 3 today was reasonably productive :y

Loom all built up and all CK connections made on the TM loom, stereo out (that was easier than I expected!) but the cage really did fight... Think it cut me 4 times >:( >:(

Anyway, got it out eventually and managed to route the TM Loom and the CK loom in the relevant directions without too many temper tantrums ::)

Struggling to get the cage back in (and in so much pain it was time to stop :'() but not because of the additional wires... Can't see where the additional bit of loom (and the ISO plugs) should be tucked to get the cage back in place... Do they go off to the passenger side in the slight void there? or elsewhere? :-/ :-/

But... Wasn't expecting to get it all done today as I had to solder the connections as well so reasonably happy with the progress ;)

Tomorrow... Fight with the cage and get it back into the correct position and re-fit the radio. Fit the TM switch and drop the cable through and fit the CK box of tricks into the N/S Kick Panel :y :y

Any hints on where the ISO plugs should go?
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #56 on: 13 June 2011, 19:06:19 »
If its the longer style TM loom, back/right. Shorter, behind cage just below the pulgs into back of cage.
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #57 on: 13 June 2011, 19:07:03 »
And I really hope now you understand my signature, and stop laughing about my foot  >:(
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #58 on: 13 June 2011, 20:03:16 »
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And I really hope now you understand my signature, and stop laughing about my foot  >:(
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The cage was very stubborn though ::) ::)
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Re: Retrofitting TM and CK-7W
« Reply #59 on: 13 June 2011, 20:04:36 »
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If its the longer style TM loom, back/right. Shorter, behind cage just below the pulgs into back of cage.

I'm guessing it's the shorter one... About 8" between ISO plugs
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