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[Kevin Wood]

I believe the only can communication on the vehicle is between CID and HU.

Or at least that's my understanding of it.

Engine ECU, ABS ECU and Autobox ECU also have their own CAN link, but it's isolated from the NCDX-Display. That's not to say it doesn't carry some of the information required by the nav / trip computer (engine/vehicle speed, fuel flow, etc. are all known and/or exchanged between these ECUs over CAN). Maybe a device to bridge the 2 CAN buses would be a solution?

Failing that, use the pulse / analogue signals that the MID uses. In fact, doesn't the CID also have these signals? I don't suppose the CID is still doing the trip computer stuff but without the CAN link it doesn't play ball?

Need to have a look at the wiring diagrams.

[Lazydocker]

There's a bit of bedtime reading for you

Some of us are, as you know, desperate to upgrade the 2015 for a more modern unit

[feeutfo]

Oi, I had first dibs. 



Oh, and so much for my understanding.

[Lazydocker]

Oi, I had first dibs. 



Oh, and so much for my understanding.

You can be the guinea pig then

[Kevin Wood]

Oi, I had first dibs. 



Oh, and so much for my understanding.

You can be the guinea pig then

yeah, we won't let the smoke out, honest.

[feeutfo]

Oi, I had first dibs. 



Oh, and so much for my understanding.

You can be the guinea pig then

yeah, we won't let the smoke out, honest.

Bah, it'll be fine.

[05omegav6]

Priorities are... Everything. Everything must be better. As if vx had developed the system to currant day. Bc,tomtom nav, double tuner for tmc, check control, 4 stack cd changer will do, phone with blu tooth that can stream music, iPod connectivity, tv, video playback.all through CID and Bose, because anything else will be a step down. Although lower volumes need work with Bose fair enough. But crack up the volume it's bloody good IMO. Certainly don't see/hear ANY need to spend money there.

VX don't do anything close, only BMs/Audi/Volvo etc offer all these as factory fit. Lots of boxes scattered around the car, all talking to each other. If you can separarte the BC functions from the head unit then that may be the way forward. Unless GM do summat suitable for Holden Calais/Cadillac CTS

I only have a TID in my car, but also have the following:
Double din touch screen HU with bluetooth, DVD, MP3/4, full ipod control, camera input, 2x aux in, CD changer control, (as above really, but without TomTom).
HD tuner (not much use in UK ).
2x 10 CD Changer.
Digital TV/Radio Tuner.
Pre wiring for headrest monitors: All Sony-personal preference (it's my money )
TomTom Go Live hard wired to ign live.

I've never had BC funtions in this car, so would be a willing guinea pig for a stand alone BC:y. Think I've still got a bit of space under the dash

[TheBoy]

It shouldn't be too bad to get a CD70 'working' in an Omega, as long as you can use an Omega CID (GID doesn't work, been there, tried that).

The BC features are all based around a speed pulse from the ABS and a fuel use signal from Engine ECU.

Check control is individual signals in.

All the above is built into Omega display.


The biggie comes if you insist on CID, the only way to navigate/interact is via CAN from NCDC. And possibly CD70 

CD70 does present other challenges to overcome though.  I need to acquire a spare CID to play though.

[tunnie]

one thing that occured to me today, is why did they not make the GID full height? Looks a bit of a waste, having that huge space and only having the tiny GID 

Full size GID could have displayed a lot of information 

[TheBoy]

one thing that occured to me today, is why did they not make the GID full height? Looks a bit of a waste, having that huge space and only having the tiny GID 

Full size GID could have displayed a lot of information 

They did make a full sized one. And made it colour as well

The GID and the half height CCRT displays were not originally designed for the Omega (or Vectra).  And that aside, you have to make it worthwhile for a customer to pick the CID option

[tunnie]

True, full height hi-res GID, CID would have been less popular

[05omegav6]

Does the GID need to be paired to the car/ HU? or should that side of things be plug and play?

[TheBoy]

Does the GID need to be paired to the car/ HU? or should that side of things be plug and play?

GID and CID require pairing....

[05omegav6]

What would be needed for that?

Guessing:
Car pass
new wiper stalk + loom
Screen

Is the VX HU needed for BC or is that self contained?

 

[TheBoy]

What would be needed for that?

Guessing:
Car pass
new wiper stalk + loom
Screen

Is the VX HU needed for BC or is that self contained?

 

Eh? What are you trying to achieve - I think I've got wrong end of the stick.  Maybe new thread may be better