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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: SatNav (What is TMC?)
« on: 24 March 2008, 20:16:55 »
I've had RDS-TMC for many years now, but not on a Vauxhall. RDS-TMC information is encrypted in the UK and is paid for via license through the map data.

There are two providers ITIS Holdings and Traffic Master, but don't be fooled as Traffic Master does not use their own network for the info.

It works rather well in my experience, most of the complaints from the system are through TomTom owners but since it uses a rather useless antenna it just never works well.

The one build into my wife's Murano is fantastic, and on handheld Garmin, Sony, Navigon and Co-Pilot satnav systems it worked well for me as well.

Whether the Vauxhall map data actually include the license for the UK to decrypt the information I do not know. In the early days of introduction it was well documented that Renault for example had two different priced discs one with the license and one without, but if you didn't order it at the time of purchasing the car they wouldn't sell it to you! Daft but true....

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There seem to be this myth that non-Bose incar aftermarket equipment = excess bass = chav

Common guys stay objective and balanced you know it yourself that it is pure nonsense...Since when is the church organ player comparable with a chav? About as deep bass as you can get if you know your stuff! But anyway it is not about bass, it is about sound quality.....And in my experience that does not go together with Bose....Sounds great until you hear what it really can sound like....Just like with anything in live, it is all about a reference and experience...

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How good is the BOSE set up from an elite saloon and what should be included in a full kit.

What sort of price do they usually go for.

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I can't stand the sound of Bose, something just not right about it. Think you you can much, much better with less hassle from different manufacturers....Both in-car and in your home...

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: which sat nav do you have?
« on: 18 February 2008, 19:06:04 »
Nissan Xavi Birdview in my Murano
Tomtom 910 as portable in hire cars and the Vauxhall

But upgrading ICE as soon as I can make up my mind, and it will be either the Kenwood DNX8200 (based upon Garmin) or the Alpine IVA-W505 with Blackbird II portable/dockable satnav...Probably gonna be the later one as I do like a portable system for hire cars...

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Unfortunately you can't get them for clarion's as there not that common they just do them for stuff like pioneer, sony, kenwood, etc.
I tried to get one for the clarion I had.

That's not quite the reason why you can't get them, it is more to do with the fact that the Clarion does not have the output to support a remote display.

Of the double-din head units only Alpine supports a remote display, a few more for single din (but they look horrible in an Omega imho) but then only if they support a remote display out....

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you should try the Bose system fitted in Elites, its a lot better than standard fit.

As someone likeing audio I have got a built-in dislike to any kind of Bose Audio system  ;)
1. They make the wiring so proprietory that you can't upgrade individual components.
2. They dictate the frequency hand over between the speaker which I don't agree with.
3. Most importantly their subwoofers have to cover too large of a frequency range which is scientifically impossible to cover well without distortion.

Now I am not saying they are not better than the standard fit, but I am rather put a decent aftermarket head-unit in there....

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4. The bose comes on the Elite and if there is one thing I can stand even less than Bose Audio is Vauxhall Leather seats.  :'( I have had a lot of different cars, but it must be the worst, cheapest plastic fealing/looking leather I have ever come across. Purely my opinion based upon comparisons with BMW, Jaguar, Audi, VW and even Nissan....

Hence I got a CDX, not the leather, not the Bose, but still the other toys....... :D

Have to disagree, i like the bose, its a clear sound with decent bass, but not too much.

No need to upgrade!

I found Elite seats the most comfy! leccy adjustment give lots of support and its very soft.

Its also very hard waring, my estate has 160k miles and it still looks mint!

We all like different things, so it good there is choice  :y But what we like is normally informed by what we know as a reference, hence keeping an open mind is always very good  [smiley=engel017.gif]

When bass is done properly you don't actually hear it, the moment you hear it (or actually one's brain thinks it hears it) you are hitting the limitations of the system. Now don't get me wrong, I am not a boyracer, no where near! I'm into classical music a lot and the sound of an organ with its deep registers is enough to make most systems run behind the sofa and weep  ;D At home I've got two subwoofer combined with floor standing speakers to cover the frequency range required. My SVS speakers goes down from 35-18Hz which is just enough (can't hear them but can give you a stomach ache!), and my Velodyne is set to cover 58Hz-35Hz....

But anyway a lot of people like the Bose sound and even pay way over the odds for things like the SoundWave. But have you ever noticed that all their advertising is directed to a certain age group and their magazines. It is a marketing brand high margin brand first....

But as I said before, it is a lot better than the standard fit, and due too the wiring involved I wouldn't rip it out when I had one, hence I avoided buying a car with one. My wife's Murano was different you couldn't get it without the Bose system, she hates me as until I pointed out the defects she was happy with it  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

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Got Bose Leather speakers in mine.
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you should try the Bose system fitted in Elites, its a lot better than standard fit.

As someone likeing audio I have got a built-in dislike to any kind of Bose Audio system  ;)
1. They make the wiring so proprietory that you can't upgrade individual components.
2. They dictate the frequency hand over between the speaker which I don't agree with.
3. Most importantly their subwoofers have to cover too large of a frequency range which is scientifically impossible to cover well without distortion.

Now I am not saying they are not better than the standard fit, but I am rather put a decent aftermarket head-unit in there....

But most importantly
4. The bose comes on the Elite and if there is one thing I can stand even less than Bose Audio is Vauxhall Leather seats.  :'( I have had a lot of different cars, but it must be the worst, cheapest plastic fealing/looking leather I have ever come across. Purely my opinion based upon comparisons with BMW, Jaguar, Audi, VW and even Nissan....

Hence I got a CDX, not the leather, not the Bose, but still the other toys....... :D

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Vauxhall's ICE person is a Rocker
« on: 17 February 2008, 23:32:18 »
I never liked my 2006 stereo, bad radio reception and bad reproduction of music CD's until I played some Pantera - Cowboys from Hell  which is some good old rock...And wow the system went upto 11 and kicked the music gods backsides! It all of a sudden sounded great!

Hence my theory that Vauxhall's ICE designer was/is a rocker!

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I think poor is till being too kind, it is absolutely useless. Sometimes it is good but as you say only when manually stored. The auto store facility does not recognise much at all. And even then there is always a spot on the M1 where the radio starts cutting in and out....I mainly listen to Radio 1 and thought that was one of the more powerful ones....

Can't wait to make up my mind on which double din unit to replace it with, if only there are shops you can actually play with them....

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Phone stuff.....
« on: 01 February 2008, 00:37:43 »
Fully agree, fantastic battery life....A proper phone first without all the nonsense that you don't really need anyway...Oh and you can actually see the screen in direct sunlight...Highly recommended, I still got one that I use as a reserve....

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: new double din headunt
« on: 01 February 2008, 00:32:55 »
Look forward to see it installed. Are you getting one of those Vectra double din facia's to fit it neatly?

Do you know what the display will show when no stereo is connected to it? Will it be just the date like when it is off?

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: new double din headunt
« on: 31 January 2008, 20:35:09 »
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If you are putting another double DIN headunit in then I can confirm space will be rather tight... ;)

As for the Basslink, it is excellent and was far better than I expected.
The reivews are pretty much universally positive too.

yes i will be going double din again, and it looks like the Kenwood will be the one i go for.

Got in the car today and the cd player has decided to show up CDC SAFE, i have put in the code i have for when the power goes down and this has not sorted out the issue.

This looks like the one i will be going with: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kenwood-DNX-7200-KCA-BT100-GTM-10-KCAIP300_W0QQitemZ130193149744QQihZ003QQcategoryZ156954QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

yes it is a lot of money, but i has everything i want and will allow me to get rid of the parrot kit and the ipod kit, this in turn will tidy up the dash  :y


Make certain you check your phones compatibility against the bluetooth. Also have you found a cable that can do both steering wheel control and display?

I was looking at that unit as well, but because of above reasons I am going down the Alpine route.....Well when I have money again after my tax bills  ;D

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: new double din headunt
« on: 23 January 2008, 22:23:11 »
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With regards to the sub.
I would recommend either a sealed 10" or even a pair of 8" subs. This will give you a must faster and tighter bass response, but being a sealed unit, will need more power to achieve the same eefect as a ported unit (sealed takes up a whole lot less space though).

Other option is a compact "active" (built in amp) sub. The best of these being the Infinity Basslink (damn good, used to have one) or the Vibe CBR units.
The Infinity is the more compact of the units and can be flat or vertically mounted.


Those Infinity's look very interesting indeed on paper! I was thinking of the the smaller Alpine's (as the rest is Alpine on my shopping list and they are small), but the specs of those (frequency response) is very interesting indeed. I think one of those will do the trick actually!  :y

Might have to take the existing head unit out to see what space is there before i get it all. Or do you think it will go in?

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: new double din headunt
« on: 23 January 2008, 02:07:20 »
I was thinking of upgrading the system in my car as well. Coming out of my BMW 740 which has the 14 speaker DSP package with 2 subwoofer it does sound a bit tinny and muddled...

I was thinking about an;
Alpine IVA-W202R as double din head unit, then add the bluetooth unit for mobile phone (iPhone compatible!!!) and the fast link wire for the iPod (or iPhone in my case) for the music side.

And I was thinking of selling my TomTom GO910 and get an Alpine Blackbird instead which can be docked (amazing!) in the head-unit which then gives full integrated SatNav....

And to top it off Alpine also do some steering wheel and display adaptors for the ultimate integration....

Oh and I might add a subwoofer or two...Small ones as I prefer the HiFi depths (short and punchy) compared to the boy-racer slow and wooly big bass boxes....

Anyone already got this installed?

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