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[citroenguy]

Just saying a thirsty V6 and burger van is not exactly eco, so if you don't like diesel then go on performance, noise type, smell, engine note.

I don't think the exhaust emmisions matter, for me anyway.

If it was not for my miles, I would have gone petrol.

Diesel has far more harmful crap coming out the back than petrol, no matter how big the engine or the mpg.

What is this stuff .. ah I know .. that stuff I put in twice a year, whether I need it or not ...  usually midsummer and midwinter.

Tunnie .. you know full well this is an LPG converted V6, so compare LPG to Diesel when comparing the levels of pollution ?? and your comment "I don't think the exhaust emmisions matter" says more about you than anything else .. IMHO ... 

If I could afford it, I'd commute in a V8 Range Rover Diesel. Sadly cannot afford said car....

But what we do on this tiny little island is dwarfed by China and other heavy industry around the world. So what comes out of the tail pipe on one little car here, has no bearing for me, why should it? 

I'm not exactly going to go a buy a 2.0 petrol, which gets say 35mpg. Just to be nice to the environment 

Well, diesels do chuck out more cancerous/nasty stuff that is bad for the people around you who breath it in.
This is already becoming a problem in cities.
The least air polluting to my knowledge is MPI / indirect injection petrol (Omega, Veccy C, etc..) in the middle is the more modern GDI/ direct injection cars, they produce smaller particles, similar to diesels. Which are worse because they get further into you.. And at the bottom there is diesel.
This is why VW are putting particle filters on some of their new PETROL cars 

[ozzycat]

have you thought about a hyundia x 35 there a very good suv petrol or derv

[TD]

Just saying a thirsty V6 and burger van is not exactly eco, so if you don't like diesel then go on performance, noise type, smell, engine note.

I don't think the exhaust emmisions matter, for me anyway.

If it was not for my miles, I would have gone petrol.

Diesel has far more harmful crap coming out the back than petrol, no matter how big the engine or the mpg.

The gov doesn't exactly encourage you to buy petrol engines tho....

RFL on my 1.6 diesel (CO2 114) cost is £30/yr

Compare that to exactly the same model with a 1.6 petrol  (CO2 159) cost is £185/yr

[tunnie]

Just saying a thirsty V6 and burger van is not exactly eco, so if you don't like diesel then go on performance, noise type, smell, engine note.

I don't think the exhaust emmisions matter, for me anyway.

If it was not for my miles, I would have gone petrol.

Diesel has far more harmful crap coming out the back than petrol, no matter how big the engine or the mpg.

The gov doesn't exactly encourage you to buy petrol engines tho....

RFL on my 1.6 diesel (CO2 114) cost is £30/yr

Compare that to exactly the same model with a 1.6 petrol  (CO2 159) cost is £185/yr

Same with my 2.0 TDi 

[Kevin Wood]

So, you'd put up with a tractor to save £155* a year? 



* - excludes DPF, injector, replacement, more regular servicing, etc.

[Lazydocker]

During fast A road driving  , I just got 194 miles out of 44 litres of LPG 
I'm happy 

I'll never use LPG

1. I need the space in the car

2. I drive abroad quite often and LPG not allowed in the Channel Tunnel

1. There are options that don't encroach on load space.

2. Use the ferry - It's a far better, more reliable service than those retards can offer on the Chunnel and you get to have a rest and a stretch

Then you really get the benefit of LPG as in most of Europand it is 1/3 of the cost of petrol

[Marks DTM Calib]

Only thing to be aware of is that Nissan use the Renault diesel engines and they can be rather troublesome, the 1.5 is particularly bad although at least the 2.0 is a chain setup.

In what way, exactly?

The 1.5 throws belts and often before the service intervals.

The 2.0 just does not last, it may well be the service intervals but random major failures befall them from throwing rods to cracked heads to injector seals leaking and failed injectors yadda yadda yadda.

[STEMO]

Only thing to be aware of is that Nissan use the Renault diesel engines and they can be rather troublesome, the 1.5 is particularly bad although at least the 2.0 is a chain setup.

In what way, exactly?

The 1.5 throws belts and often before the service intervals.

The 2.0 just does not last, it may well be the service intervals but random major failures befall them from throwing rods to cracked heads to injector seals leaking and failed injectors yadda yadda yadda.

Some of the people on the captur forum have had theirs since 2013, no mention of any engine problems, just shoddy build.
They do come with a four year warranty si I'm not unduly worried.

[tunnie]

So, you'd put up with a tractor to save £155* a year? 



* - excludes DPF, injector, replacement, more regular servicing, etc.

At risk of creating war, I prefer my VW to the 3.2.

60+ mpg vs 25mpg (High 30-s if lpg)
I find the seats and driving position better, it's more supportive. Electric lower lumbar support is excellent, head rests that extend forwards as well as up, provide very comfy position. (I'm sure other makes do similar things with head rest)
Torque - So much low down torque, mid range it feels faster than 3.2.
I oil change/other service bits the 2.2 and 3.2 every 5k - I plan to repeat this with the VW, so no change here.
For my driving style, VW handles better far less body roll.

I should add when I had a Mondeo before the Omega, I had lots of scare stories to put me off the Omega. 

I've very happy with my choice, no putting up required. If I could afford it, I'd swap out the 3.2 for a Passat Estate. But no point at the moment due to the low miles the 3.2 does as the mum bus.

[2boxerdogs]

There's no doubting that the Omegas were good in their day  but there are now plenty of better cars around nowadays, sounds like you have found one.👌👌
I still like them but wanted a V8 of some type & was lucky to find my Merc the engine is superb but in all honesty the Omega was just as comfortable to ride in, if you can find one that has been looked after they are good value still.

[TheBoy]

During fast A road driving  , I just got 194 miles out of 44 litres of LPG 
I'm happy 

I'll never use LPG

1. I need the space in the car

2. I drive abroad quite often and LPG not allowed in the Channel Tunnel

At 53.9p a litre, so:

1) I got a roofbox for the 2 or 3 times a year I needed the space
2) I used a ferry, as the only sensible thing to do with the tunnel is to fill it with water, as its run by scum.

[Nick W]

During fast A road driving  , I just got 194 miles out of 44 litres of LPG 
I'm happy 

I'll never use LPG

1. I need the space in the car

2. I drive abroad quite often and LPG not allowed in the Channel Tunnel

1. There are options that don't encroach on load space.

2. Use the ferry - It's a far better, more reliable service than those retards can offer on the Chunnel and you get to have a rest and a stretch

Considerably cheaper too.

[Mister Rog]

During fast A road driving  , I just got 194 miles out of 44 litres of LPG 
I'm happy 

I'll never use LPG

1. I need the space in the car

2. I drive abroad quite often and LPG not allowed in the Channel Tunnel

1. There are options that don't encroach on load space.

2. Use the ferry - It's a far better, more reliable service than those retards can offer on the Chunnel and you get to have a rest and a stretch

Considerably cheaper too.

Ha ! We've had this conversation many times before     

I'm off to France Tomorrow. Returning on Sunday. Car with 4 people £119 at times that very much suit me. 20 minutes less driving than Dover, and much shorter crossing time. I didn't even check the ferries, I'm completely happy with that. The ferries would need to be staggeringly cheap and at convenient times for me to have considered. I do like the ferry when time is not an issue, but that's unusual. Looking back over the years, I've really not had many problems with Chunnel.

[TD]

So, you'd put up with a tractor to save £155* a year? 



* - excludes DPF, injector, replacement, more regular servicing, etc.

Add about £3k savings in fuel/yr in my case 

[Doctor Gollum]

Saving up for the injectors, dpf and dmf next year then...