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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: olm on 12 August 2018, 12:10:20

Title: window switch sticky
Post by: olm on 12 August 2018, 12:10:20
Someone knows if there is any solution for the sticky buttons from inside?
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: Chazza12 on 14 August 2018, 16:15:20
spray switch cleaner around the gap it will soak in and clean it out. can use wd40 but would need to wipe away as leaves shiny marks. had stick switch when a child droped her kfc coke a right sticky mess. but it sorted it.
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: olm on 16 August 2018, 02:08:19
spray switch cleaner around the gap it will soak in and clean it out. can use wd40 but would need to wipe away as leaves shiny marks. had stick switch when a child droped her kfc coke a right sticky mess. but it sorted it.

Your model is prefacelift, isnīt it? This is a endemic desease of facelift version. Nobody with a solution? Still selling new?
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 August 2018, 06:27:38
Ambersil Groom Foaming upholstery cleaner.

And keep them clean... Rocket science it isn't  ::)
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: olm on 16 August 2018, 23:21:00
Ambersil Groom Foaming upholstery cleaner.

And keep them clean... Rocket science it isn't  ::)


They are new and clean, the car stoped 10 years ago and has only 55.000 miles, but the coating is sticky and my fingerprint is marked, that is the problem, not the dirt
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: olm on 16 August 2018, 23:22:26
dupliced
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 August 2018, 23:43:52
Ambersil Groom Foaming upholstery cleaner.

And keep them clean... Rocket science it isn't  ::)


They are new and clean, the car stoped 10 years ago and has only 55.000 miles, but the coating is sticky and my fingerprint is marked, that is the problem, not the dirt
If they're sticky, then they're dirty... Clean as above ;)
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: olm on 17 August 2018, 00:15:24
Ambersil Groom Foaming upholstery cleaner.

And keep them clean... Rocket science it isn't  ::)


They are new and clean, the car stoped 10 years ago and has only 55.000 miles, but the coating is sticky and my fingerprint is marked, that is the problem, not the dirt. When I can upload photos
If they're sticky, then they're dirty... Clean as above ;)

Not is dirty, the TC, warning button, etc are the same way. The black coating I take it with my hand. And repeat, the car is unpolluted, just I saved. When I can upload photos. Itīs similar than vag problem I believe

Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 August 2018, 00:28:32
I know exactly what you mean. My suggestion is how I dealt with it...

If it didn't work, I wouldn't have suggested it.  ;)
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 August 2018, 00:30:51
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ambersil-Auto-Groom-Foaming-Upholstery-and-Trim-Cleaner-500ml-Aerosol-7003-/263430992830
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: olm on 17 August 2018, 04:21:32
I know exactly what you mean. My suggestion is how I dealt with it...

If it didn't work, I wouldn't have suggested it.  ;)


It seems to me that if I rub off I will erase the symbols and the white of the plastic will appear, but if you say it works, I'll prove it  :y

Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: johnnydog on 22 August 2018, 21:09:43
I'm with you on this one olm; you are asking for advice, but just getting certain flippant comments.

I have had this happen to me with several Omegas; switches become sticky over time. I have had it on the door window buttons, the door mirror controls, and the remote boot release button. The coating on the door handle surround where the window switches are located also loses its coating. It isn't, as has been suggested, dirt or sticky fingers, but the plastic rubbery coating breaking down. I have tried all types of cleaner on them with no improvements. When it last happened on the boot release button, cleaning had no effect, and the boot symbol ended up coming off the switch with the various cleaners used (including various upholstery / fabric cleaners), and the only solution was to buy a brand new switch as most in beakers yards have suffered the same fate.
The only partial success I have had is with the door handle surround. With careful scraping, the plastic coating comes off and leaves a hard plastic shiny finish underneath. I've had better results doing this with the light grey trim, rather than the black.

Helpful responses are what most OOfers want, not belittling comments.
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: DrAndyB on 22 August 2018, 21:43:24
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-MK2-ELECTRIC-4-WAY-WINDOW-MIRROR-SWITCH/392104211655?hash=item5b4b3b74c7:g:ORoAAOSwYq5baLHj (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-MK2-ELECTRIC-4-WAY-WINDOW-MIRROR-SWITCH/392104211655?hash=item5b4b3b74c7:g:ORoAAOSwYq5baLHj)

Simples  ;)
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: olm on 23 August 2018, 01:43:18
I'm with you on this one olm; you are asking for advice, but just getting certain flippant comments.

I have had this happen to me with several Omegas; switches become sticky over time. I have had it on the door window buttons, the door mirror controls, and the remote boot release button. The coating on the door handle surround where the window switches are located also loses its coating. It isn't, as has been suggested, dirt or sticky fingers, but the plastic rubbery coating breaking down. I have tried all types of cleaner on them with no improvements. When it last happened on the boot release button, cleaning had no effect, and the boot symbol ended up coming off the switch with the various cleaners used (including various upholstery / fabric cleaners), and the only solution was to buy a brand new switch as most in beakers yards have suffered the same fate.
The only partial success I have had is with the door handle surround. With careful scraping, the plastic coating comes off and leaves a hard plastic shiny finish underneath. I've had better results doing this with the light grey trim, rather than the black.

Helpful responses are what most OOfers want, not belittling comments.

Yes, that's what I meant. Thank you very much!  :y :y
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: olm on 23 August 2018, 01:48:41
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-MK2-ELECTRIC-4-WAY-WINDOW-MIRROR-SWITCH/392104211655?hash=item5b4b3b74c7:g:ORoAAOSwYq5baLHj (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-MK2-ELECTRIC-4-WAY-WINDOW-MIRROR-SWITCH/392104211655?hash=item5b4b3b74c7:g:ORoAAOSwYq5baLHj)

Simples  ;)


Wow!!. Thanks so much, I just bought it!!
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: DrAndyB on 23 August 2018, 19:08:45
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-MK2-ELECTRIC-4-WAY-WINDOW-MIRROR-SWITCH/392104211655?hash=item5b4b3b74c7:g:ORoAAOSwYq5baLHj (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-MK2-ELECTRIC-4-WAY-WINDOW-MIRROR-SWITCH/392104211655?hash=item5b4b3b74c7:g:ORoAAOSwYq5baLHj)

Simples  ;)


Wow!!. Thanks so much, I just bought it!!
:y

It looked in decent condition, and cheap  ;)
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: johnnydog on 03 September 2021, 12:05:11
Just resurrecting this topic, as it obviously is an issue on all Omegas (and other modern vehicles for that matter), and any second hand switch / button assemblies are likely to have gone the same way.
I have just put one of my Omegas back on the road after a long period of being laid up. The driver and passenger window switches, plus the boot release button had gone extremely sticky - almost gooey in fact. They weren't like that prior to the car being laid up, and as it wasn't being used, it obviously wasn't sticky fingers that had caused it - it was most likely a combination of of sunlight and general degrading of the 'soft touch' coating.
I tried Ambersill Tar Spot remover followed by Ambersill Foaming Upholstery cleaner, as recommended, which had no effect on the sticky surface whatsoever.  The problem is that harsh cleaners can remove the white symbol on the surface if not extremely careful. On the boot button the symbol can easily be damaged, so I decided to use a product called 'Non Sticky Sticky Stuff Remover', which is primarily intended for label residue etc, and although it took a lot of rubbing and a lot of patience, the boot switch has now come up a treat, and the symbol is undamaged.
On the window switch, I tried all sorts - the above Non Sticky Stuff remover, White Spirit, Electrical Switch cleaner, Solvent cleaner, Ambersill upholstery cleaner, WD40, even brake cleaner, but none of the above worked or even sniffed at the residue.
In the end, similarly to Nail Varnish remover that has been suggested previously, I used General Purpose thinners, which removed the sticky soft touch coating with some careful but vigorous rubbing, leaving the hard plastic finish underneath. It is a satin finish, but almost smooth, but looks excellent. I must stress that you have to be very very careful with the areas between the individual switches, and the L/R mirror control button, or the thinners / Nail Varnish remover will take the black colour off the edges, and the symbol will be lost if the thinners comes into contact with it. I used a cotton bud for the difficult to reach areas, and the cloth wrapped round a thin screwdriver to apply the required effort to remove the coating.
I did actually loose a little bit of the edge of the circular mirror control button, but some matt black blackboard paint with a fine brush on the affected area and it is now hardly noticeable.
Hope that helps anyone with sticky switches!   
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 September 2021, 12:56:25
I tend to dismantle them if they're really bad, but the Tarspot/Ambersil approach isn't a single wipe and done. If they're bad, then they require effort and using an old towel helps as you can scrub at it without scratching anything  ;)
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 September 2021, 13:05:52
While sat in my Omega bored last week while swmbo popped in a shop, I decided to rub some alcohol hand gel on a couple of my switches and it definitely made a decent improvement.
Might experiment further in the near future.
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: Nick W on 03 September 2021, 18:12:53
While sat in my Omega bored last week while swmbo popped in a shop, I decided to rub some alcohol hand gel on a couple of my switches and it definitely made a decent improvement.
Might experiment further in the near future.


I think hand cleaners/creams are the cause of many of these problems: they always seem to be much worse on women's cars! Same applies to leather steering wheels and gearknobs. That excludes Fords because the leather they use can be wornout with a cross stare ::)
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: johnnydog on 03 September 2021, 19:25:56
I think you are right regarding womens handcreams. Have you ever noticied large areas of fingerprint and handprints markings on metallic paint finishes on modern cars, mainly around the  door frames, top of the door skins below the windows, and any area where a hand would contact? This seems to be more prevalent on ladies cars, or on the side where the lady would normally sit. Not that I'm blaming them, of course  :D, but they are extremely difficult to remove even by machine polishing, and they return again afterwards. I'm convinced it has to be something in the oils etc in handcreams or makeup.
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: dave the builder on 03 September 2021, 19:35:13
Women's cars often have scratched glass too from diamond rings  :(
A good excuse not to buy them expensive rings ,get married etc   ;D
Title: Re: window switch sticky
Post by: cam.in.head on 03 September 2021, 22:10:22
and i was told that if you get sunscreen lotion on anything its an absolute sod to get off again especially on any matt plastics
I think you are right regarding womens handcreams. Have you ever noticied large areas of fingerprint and handprints markings on metallic paint finishes on modern cars, mainly around the  door frames, top of the door skins below the windows, and any area where a hand would contact? This seems to be more prevalent on ladies cars, or on the side where the lady would normally sit. Not that I'm blaming them, of course  :D, but they are extremely difficult to remove even by machine polishing, and they return again afterwards. I'm convinced it has to be something in the oils etc in handcreams or makeup.