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Eddy Matthews

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LPG Conversion?
« on: 19 February 2007, 09:34:27 »

After I buy an Omega, one of the first jobs on the list will be getting it converted to use LPG.... I hope to buy an estate, so what tanks are available, and where do they fit exactly?

I've heard of two - One that sits in the spare wheel well, and one that runs across behind the rear seat.... But that gives a problem - If using the first type, where the heck does the spare wheel go? I don't just want it dumped in the back of the car! And the second type of tank also presents a problem as it limits the use of the car to carry longer items with the rear seats folded down....

Am I missing something here, or are there other alternatives?

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Re: LPG Conversion?
« Reply #1 on: 19 February 2007, 09:37:42 »

Mate I would just buy one already converted here there is one on ebay for you to look at

And it only up the road from you in Darlinton that not 15 miles away

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Omega-Estate-GLSi-2lt-16valve-LPG-Conversion_W0QQitemZ230092736205QQihZ013QQcategoryZ36678QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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And Another Little Bit further away from you

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vauxhall-omega-estate-3-litre-auto-LPG-converted_W0QQitemZ140086559436QQihZ004QQcategoryZ18206QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: LPG Conversion?
« Reply #2 on: 19 February 2007, 11:03:41 »

Spare wheel well (Taxi Driver) or Tank in boot (me, Issunaz, JamesV6CDX eventually, Paul M)
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Re: LPG Conversion?
« Reply #3 on: 19 February 2007, 11:42:27 »

Right On the Tanks

Spare wheel well Tanks good for not lossing any space but as you say you lose the Spare Wheel you can have your tires injected with some stuff that stops punchers and carry two cans of tire weld stuff, Also The Spare wheel well Tanks are smallish and dont hold as much Gas as the Normal Tanks in the Boot like my own.

Boot Tanks Hold alot more but as you say stops you putting long objects in the car which i have never needed to do so i am ok on that side.

You can also get Torpedo Tanks But I have only really seen these on big 4*4's slung underneth.

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Re: LPG Conversion?
« Reply #4 on: 19 February 2007, 12:52:34 »

Thanks guys....

I don't want to compromise interior space, since I often have to carry a wheelchair etc - So it looks like my only option is the tank which fits into the spare wheel well....

That leaves me with the problem of the spare wheel - Or rather the lack of one! The last time I tried these tyre weld products (admittedly more than 20 yrs ago) they were crap!! And since I carry my disabled daughter, it worries me not having a spare wheel...  Have these products improved to the point where it's feasible to run without a spare? Or is there a kit to mount the spare onto the tailgate of an Omega estate (is that even possible)?

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« Reply #5 on: 19 February 2007, 13:10:23 »

This Might Sound Mad But My Mate Bought A Brand New HardTop Car 309cc i think anyway It never had a Spare Wheel he said that the Tires had been injected with something to stop them getting a puncher but he did say it never helpped if you had a blow out as the tire was gone or if the rim got dented and the air leaked out like that.

Also I my friend had an Estate and had the same worry about the seats going down and he had the tan mounted sideway down one side of the car lost space in the back but not loads

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« Reply #6 on: 19 February 2007, 14:39:40 »

Buying one ready converted - is it a good idea?

James LPG donor was not that well installed and I had issues with my last car.

I know a local chap who will assist and certify at a sensible rate (CIH IYKWIM).

It is not overly difficult, just need to be careful!
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Re: LPG Conversion?
« Reply #7 on: 19 February 2007, 19:24:08 »

Just to add my 2p's worth, I know that a vertical standing LPG tank are poor, bad to keep, crap to use and are not very reliable, I know my saloon omega has a vertical spare wheel not sure about estate...., to try to keep your length space you could go for a smaller cylinder tank running from back to front on one side of the car.... have fun deciding ! :)

My omega has a 90 litre tank sat across the back axel FUN FUN FUN :)
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Re: LPG Conversion?
« Reply #8 on: 19 February 2007, 20:53:54 »

is it possible to get runflat tyres for the omega? i know some of the newer high end cars (bmw merc) have them as an optional extra. These tyres even when punctured retain their shape allowing you to get the car to a convient place for a repair, though i do think your speed is limited to 50mph when flat, though i may be wrong.
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Re: LPG Conversion?
« Reply #9 on: 19 February 2007, 21:13:54 »

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is it possible to get runflat tyres for the omega? i know some of the newer high end cars (bmw merc) have them as an optional extra. These tyres even when punctured retain their shape allowing you to get the car to a convient place for a repair, though i do think your speed is limited to 50mph when flat, though i may be wrong.
Not sure on laws for retrofitting, but factory fit, there is a legal requirement for electronic tyre pressure warnings....
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« Reply #10 on: 19 February 2007, 21:21:02 »

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is it possible to get runflat tyres for the omega? i know some of the newer high end cars (bmw merc) have them as an optional extra. These tyres even when punctured retain their shape allowing you to get the car to a convient place for a repair, though i do think your speed is limited to 50mph when flat, though i may be wrong.
Not sure on laws for retrofitting, but factory fit, there is a legal requirement for electronic tyre pressure warnings....


Two problems that I can foresee here - First, it's going to be a VERY expensive option replacing four tyres with runflat ones, and secondly (as TB said) how would you know they were flat without some sort of pressure warning device?

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Re: LPG Conversion?
« Reply #11 on: 20 February 2007, 05:54:32 »

Another alternative is.....have a tank where the spare wheel should be (estate) , you will loose about inch or two, as the boot floor has to be raised to get a big enough tank in. And then get a space saver spare and sling it in the back  :y
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« Reply #12 on: 20 February 2007, 13:04:20 »

I bought mine already converted and it's always run fine, no noticable difference in performance compared to petrol even up to the red line. Only a little more expensive to buy compared with a petrol version of similar age/spec so it works out hugely cheaper than doing the conversion myself.

I have the full size tank in the boot, suits me fine as it gives a range over 400 miles which a spare wheel tank won't get anywhere near. I still have my spare wheel too, it leaves a reasonable amount of space in the boot but I appreciate this won't suit everyone.

If you go for the spare wheel tank, the options are either carry a full size spare in the boot, get a suitable space-saver wheel, or carry tyre weld. I think the latter is OK as a get-me-home type repair as long as it's a minor puncture. More serious tyre damage won't be repairable. Personally I'd say it should be OK, just make sure you've got breakdown cover and ensure they will help out for punctures as some of them will charge if you don't have a spare wheel.
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Re: LPG Conversion?
« Reply #13 on: 20 February 2007, 13:26:51 »

while on this subject, do you just fill them up at normal stations?? what i mean is are most usual petrol stations equipped for LPG cars??

Mine isn't LPG but my next car will be!
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« Reply #14 on: 20 February 2007, 13:42:51 »

yep normal Petrol stations but i have heard  :-X that people can fill them from calor gas bottles and the big bottles outside peoples houses can have a convertion kit so you can fill your car and its ment to be mega cheap.

but saying that i have also heard that the gas from Calor Gas Bottles is dirty and give your LPG system greef

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