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this tory mp that apparently broke lockdown rules & is no getting pilloried by the media. what about the press thats outside his home trying to get a statement & take photos of him . are they not committing the same offence . they wasn,t 2mtrs apart.
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They call him 'Demonic' Cummings. ;D
Not a Tory MP though.
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Not an MP and never has been. He is more powerful than most MP,s though as senior adviser to Boris.
On the one hand, he is hated by the mainstream media, anyone who is remotely left wing, and even the wet end of the Tory party. All of these have been waiting their chance to bring him down.
On the other hand, if he has done what they are saying he has, he,s a fickin idiot and deserves to be brought down.
We might know by the end of today how it has played out.
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The quality of our politicians, elected or otherwise, has never filled me with confidence. Unfortunately, the handling of this pandemic has had them sinking to new lows IMO. :(
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He's got to go as he has become a political liability to Boris, and a gift to the opposition.
So, go man, go!! >:( >:(
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The quality of our politicians, elected or otherwise, has never filled me with confidence. Unfortunately, the handling of this pandemic has had them sinking to new lows IMO. :(
So what would you have done in their position? And what qualifies you or the 'media' to criticise them?
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To put that another way, who here in his position wouldn't have done the same thing?
There have been far more significant issues in relation to the current situation that haven't been discussed because the 'media' insist on politicising every little nuance.
Quite frankly getting as pissed off with the whole approach now as all the scaremongering bullshit when it started.
If, after 10 weeks people have nothing better to do then perhaps they need a new hobby >:(
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The quality of our politicians, elected or otherwise, has never filled me with confidence. Unfortunately, the handling of this pandemic has had them sinking to new lows IMO. :(
So what would you have done in their position? And what qualifies you or the 'media' to criticise them?
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Just a personal opinion DG. You have yours and i have mine. ::)
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Questions for those who think the "media" are impartially doing their job .....
If he did this hienious crime 7 weeks ago, ..... why is it only being reported now, and not at the time ??
Why is an "anonymous witness" more credible than a man making a public statement ?
Why is the answer given to a question "not acceptable", does the questioner have the right to only get answers he likes ??
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Do you, like me, think this is simply the "media" trying to remove someone who does not play their silly little games ?
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Indeed. What on earth does the opinion of a retired policeman have to do with anything either ???
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Trouble is, once it starts becoming a distraction, people are usually asked to go to stop all the noise. Waiting for the five o'clock news conference (should have been 4). It's Boris tonight and you can bet there won't be many questions about coronavirus.
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Trouble is, once it starts becoming a distraction, people are usually asked to go to stop all the noise. Waiting for the five o'clock news conference (should have been 4). It's Boris tonight and you can bet there won't be many questions about coronavirus.
Which is really defeating the purpose of the briefing.
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Trouble is, once it starts becoming a distraction, people are usually asked to go to stop all the noise. Waiting for the five o'clock news conference (should have been 4). It's Boris tonight and you can bet there won't be many questions about coronavirus.
Which is really defeating the purpose of the briefing.
For some people, the purpose of the briefing will be to get rid of Dominic Cummings.
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Trouble is, once it starts becoming a distraction, people are usually asked to go to stop all the noise. Waiting for the five o'clock news conference (should have been 4). It's Boris tonight and you can bet there won't be many questions about coronavirus.
And that IS the problem. A complete distraction from what the governments business should be.
Get rid of Cummings and Boris has got rid of the unnecessary distraction ;)
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They shouldn't be allowed to monopolise the briefing.
If they don't have the maturity to ask pertinent questions, then they shouldn't be allowed to ask questions.
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Cummings appears to be an arrogant educated idiot, and people I've met over the years who are of a similar personna quite frankly are simply not worth bothering with, he will just do as he pleases which was blatantly obvious when he was on Sky news last night.
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Boris Johnson has backed his key adviser Dominic Cummings
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Fair play to Boris for not simply telling all the journalists to do one.
It's all I can do not to throw summat at the telly :D
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People are busy stabbing each other all over the place, yet one person repositioned themselves in order to pre empt a potential childcare issue is utterly abhorrent. WTF ???
People are mental :o
Still, two sensible questions so far, so not a total bust. :y
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The way it came across to me was that, in his opinion, Boris thought that DC had done nothing wrong. He would not answer questions that were put, quite legitimately, about the cases of other officials who had to resign for similar behaviour. He came across quite Trump like, and I don't think he's done himself any favours.
If he thinks it will now disappear, then he forgets how efficient the press are at digging away until they get to the dirty bits. Quite surprising when you think how often they've caught him with his pants down.
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Cummings appears to be an arrogant educated idiot, and people I've met over the years who are of a similar personna quite frankly are simply not worth bothering with, he will just do as he pleases which was blatantly obvious when he was on Sky news last night.
I am sure you would present just as favourably if you had been continuously harassed by the 'media' for the last few days :-X
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Cummings appears to be an arrogant educated idiot, and people I've met over the years who are of a similar personna quite frankly are simply not worth bothering with, he will just do as he pleases which was blatantly obvious when he was on Sky news last night.
I am sure you would present just as favourably if you had been continuously harassed by the 'media' for the last few days :-X
We all know what Cummings is: A very unpleasant egomaniac. But that is not the point, the point is did he break the rules or not?
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Not sure how one person moving their family once in order to be near family in case of requiring assistance from said family compares to repeatedly going to a second home for the weekend... ???
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Cummings appears to be an arrogant educated idiot, and people I've met over the years who are of a similar personna quite frankly are simply not worth bothering with, he will just do as he pleases which was blatantly obvious when he was on Sky news last night.
I am sure you would present just as favourably if you had been continuously harassed by the 'media' for the last few days :-X
We all know what Cummings is: A very unpleasant egomaniac. But that is not the point, the point is did he break the rules or not?
I would say no. But that's without the bias of media influences.
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Not sure how one person moving their family once in order to be near family in case of requiring assistance from said family compares to repeatedly going to a second home for the weekend... ???
Told you the press don't like being put down on national television. We've already had a time line on BBC news putting him in Durham, Barnard Castle and back in Downing Street, all within the 14 days he should have been isolating. Boris has now brought the spotlight on to himself, a very stupid miscalculation, in my opinion.
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Cummings appears to be an arrogant educated idiot, and people I've met over the years who are of a similar personna quite frankly are simply not worth bothering with, he will just do as he pleases which was blatantly obvious when he was on Sky news last night.
I am sure you would present just as favourably if you had been continuously harassed by the 'media' for the last few days :-X
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Why get personal ? We are not discussing my behaviour & I have enough sense not to put myself in such a compromising position.
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I also like the way Boris threw in the bit about schools. Nothing new, but probably the reason why he was an hour late. Trying desperately to find something other for people to talk about.
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Cummings appears to be an arrogant educated idiot, and people I've met over the years who are of a similar personna quite frankly are simply not worth bothering with, he will just do as he pleases which was blatantly obvious when he was on Sky news last night.
I am sure you would present just as favourably if you had been continuously harassed by the 'media' for the last few days :-X
We all know what Cummings is: A very unpleasant egomaniac. But that is not the point, the point is did he break the rules or not?
Are you telling me it wouldn't have been better to stay in London, and if he got sick to phone the child's aunt or uncle and arrange a collection? It's not like the couldn't have arranged a car by asking his boss for a small favour.
Unfortunately all the press attention stops people trusting a word any of them say and we will (in my humble oppinion) see more people pushing the boundaries of the advice and see a spike in deaths (probably)
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Cummings appears to be an arrogant educated idiot, and people I've met over the years who are of a similar personna quite frankly are simply not worth bothering with, he will just do as he pleases which was blatantly obvious when he was on Sky news last night.
I am sure you would present just as favourably if you had been continuously harassed by the 'media' for the last few days :-X
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Why get personal ? We are not discussing my behaviour & I have enough sense not to put myself in such a compromising position.
Exactly, Boris has made a big political mistake distracting attention from the main issues that the government and us are dealing with. A stupid move, and Cummings must go no matter what was the timeline and facts around the case.
We were ALL told, instructed, to STAY AT HOME, and if you or anyone in your household develop symptoms SELF ISOLATE for at least 14 days, and DO NOT TRAVEL.
Hundreds of thousands of us have obeyed the rules, and managed to reduce the R factor. We have made some hard sacrifices, but Cummings thought he was above that and didn’t need to obey the rules so he could drive hundreds of miles with his infected wife, with now the excuse that he needed to consider care for his child if he became infected as well (well yes, travelling for hours with an infected person makes that very possible!!). So he couldn’t afford emergency child care down in his home if the worst happened, when more humble, not so arrogant, people are faithfully obeying the rules and making even greater sacrifices?!
Not a good day for Boris >:( >:(
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Not being personal, just highlighting that everyone is very quick to judge and criticise with no tolerance for context or how they themselves would behave in a given situation.
Does being in the public domain give an automatic right to be vilified for doing something that anyone else would have done similarly in the same circumstances? ???
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UK civil service tweet:
ARROGANT AND OFFENSIVE!
Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters?
Someone has just lost their job ;D
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Not being personal, just highlighting that everyone is very quick to judge and criticise with no tolerance for context or how they themselves would behave in a given situation.
Does being in the public domain give an automatic right to be vilified for doing something that anyone else would have done similarly in the same circumstances? ???
There must have been thousands of people in exactly the same position. I doubt even 1% of them did what he did.
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UK civil service tweet:
ARROGANT AND OFFENSIVE!
Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters?
Someone has just lost their job ;D
Brilliant reply
Mark Mcvitie
@MarkMcvitie
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Replying to
@lewis_goodall
Look whoever tweeted this was just following their instincts and that is something to be applauded.
They’ve acted to stop the spread (of lies).
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Not being personal, just highlighting that everyone is very quick to judge and criticise with no tolerance for context or how they themselves would behave in a given situation.
Does being in the public domain give an automatic right to be vilified for doing something that anyone else would have done similarly in the same circumstances? ???
Absolutely right. :y
I would have done the same had I been in his position.
Children always come first — even ahead of government guidelines (note: not law).
This whole thing was whipped up by the media (esp. the odious Piers Morgan) who saw it as a stick to beat Johnson and the government.
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Not being personal, just highlighting that everyone is very quick to judge and criticise with no tolerance for context or how they themselves would behave in a given situation.
Does being in the public domain give an automatic right to be vilified for doing something that anyone else would have done similarly in the same circumstances? ???
Absolutely right. :y
I would have done the same had I been in his position.
Children always come first — even ahead of government guidelines (note: not law).
This whole thing was whipped up by the media (esp. the odious Piers Morgan) who saw it as a stick to beat Johnson and the government.
He's succeeded, only what was a small stick is now a firkin great baseball bat.
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And with regards to guidelines, you don't get fined for breaking guidelines.
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From a tweet by the obnoxious Robert Peston:
"...The press will be up in arms at this - they have been completely ignored and treated as though their opinion doesn’t matter."
The opinions of the press do NOT matter. :y
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From a tweet by the obnoxious Robert Peston:
"...The press will be up in arms at this - they have been completely ignored and treated as though their opinion doesn’t matter."
The opinions of the press do NOT matter. :y
They'll matter to Cummings, probably this week ;D
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And with regards to guidelines, you don't get fined for breaking guidelines.
Many of the fines have subsequently been scrapped. Yes, they are purely guidelines, as no law has been passed forcing people to stay at home.
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I'm not getting into the legalities of it. The fact remains that he broke the 'guidelines' when most other people didn't. Watch out for people doing exactly as they please because their instincts tell them it's ok.
I really wasn't bothered by this one way or the other, and I am a staunch supporter of Boris, but that was a fickin train wreck, and what you or I think really doesn't matter one jot. The press will hound him out.
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Cummings appears to be an arrogant educated idiot, and people I've met over the years who are of a similar personna quite frankly are simply not worth bothering with, he will just do as he pleases which was blatantly obvious when he was on Sky news last night.
I am sure you would present just as favourably if you had been continuously harassed by the 'media' for the last few days :-X
We all know what Cummings is: A very unpleasant egomaniac. But that is not the point, the point is did he break the rules or not?
Are you telling me it wouldn't have been better to stay in London, and if he got sick to phone the child's aunt or uncle and arrange a collection? It's not like the couldn't have arranged a car by asking his boss for a small favour.
Unfortunately all the press attention stops people trusting a word any of them say and we will (in my humble oppinion) see more people pushing the boundaries of the advice and see a spike in deaths (probably)
Lockdown meant I missed my brother's funeral. Dominic Cummings should be ashamed
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/24/lockdown-missed-brothers-funeral-dominic-cummings-ashamed?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
I know it's the Guardian and OOF prefers the Mail but the sentiments are perhaps poiniont
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I would like to know what odds you could get on him being gone by the end of the week, childcare is easy to arrange for front line workers & unfortunately the dumb f**k qualifies for that.
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I would like to know what odds you could get on him being gone by the end of the week, childcare is easy to arrange for front line workers & unfortunately the dumb f**k qualifies for that.
In similar circumstances, and also living in London, I would never have entrusted my children to a stranger, especially in a similar scenario (and particularly given the father's high-profile political position). If you're a responsible parent, the safety of your offspring takes precedence above all else.
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And with regards to guidelines, you don't get fined for breaking guidelines.
Many of the fines have subsequently been scrapped. Yes, they are purely guidelines, as no law has been passed forcing people to stay at home.
This Commons Library briefing paper describes the law enforcing the UK's coronavirus lockdown. It discusses police enforcement of the lockdown and legal commentary of the lockdown rules.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8875/
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Since when did GMB have any right to judge anyone?
Assuming we're talking about the same Piers Morgan that has his own pigeon hole at the OFCOM office ::)
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Since when did GMB have any right to judge anyone?
Assuming we're talking about the same Piers Morgan that has his own pigeon hole at the OFCOM office ::)
Also ex editor of the Sun, news of the world and daily mirror. Friends (and enemies) in high places.
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That's all right then... ::)
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That's all right then... ::)
Good ::) ::)
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My tuppenceworth and nowt else.
Any normal person with an ounce of decency would, once found out, move on or, someone in a position to force it, would do so.
Trouble is, Cummings knows where all the political bodies are buried, so to speak, and so gets public protection from his personal Pinocchio......
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My tuppenceworth and nowt else.
Any normal person with an ounce of decency would, once found out, move on or, someone in a position to force it, would do so.
Trouble is, Cummings knows where all the political bodies are buried, so to speak, and so gets public protection from his personal Pinocchio......
Yes. It was the wife who mentioned that to me. Not 'political bodies' in so many words, more 'Boris seems to be shit scared of him'. ;D
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My tuppenceworth and nowt else.
Any normal person with an ounce of decency would, once found out, move on or, someone in a position to force it, would do so.
Trouble is, Cummings knows where all the political bodies are buried, so to speak, and so gets public protection from his personal Pinocchio......
Implies he was hiding something, or had something to hide ... seems he doesn't as it was his parents who called the police to tell him he was there and to ask for security advice, given his high profile .... .. calling the police and saying "I'm here" .. is not 'exactly' hiding something ..... is it ???
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Outside Cummings house:
https://twitter.com/samholdertv/status/1264529136741240834?s=21
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My tuppenceworth and nowt else.
Any normal person with an ounce of decency would, once found out, move on or, someone in a position to force it, would do so.
Trouble is, Cummings knows where all the political bodies are buried, so to speak, and so gets public protection from his personal Pinocchio......
Implies he was hiding something, or had something to hide ... seems he doesn't as it was his parents who called the police to tell him he was there and to ask for security advice, given his high profile .... .. calling the police and saying "I'm here" .. is not 'exactly' hiding something ..... is it ???
Bear in mind this is all historic, relatively speaking. Yes, it was the parents who potentially were the whistle blowers so to speak. It is now seeing the light of day after subtle changes to guidelines, enforcement legalities etc by the one person who has the ability to ‘encourage’ such changes thus creating sufficient loopholes.
I find it quite surreal that an unaccountable individual is now in such a position of influence......
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Not sure why... Alastair Campbell being an obvious example...
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Not sure why... Alastair Campbell being an obvious example...
Exactly...
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It looks like nobody should be trusted in this world apart from Donald Trump. :)
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Well what ever the rights or wrongs of what Dominic Cummings did or didn't do, I'm glad that Boris showed a bit of back bone and refused to be dictated to by the hysterical media and the lefty hate mob. :y
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Not sure why... Alastair Campbell being an obvious example...
Not to mention Charlie Falconer and Cherie Blair. Cabinet members seem to be there to carry out orders, the inner cabinet and close advisers make the decisions.
I understand Mrs. Dominic Cummings is Mary Wakefield, who writes a column in the Spectator.
I imagine Dominic Cummings did not expect to be found out. He broke no law, just failed to abide by government guidelines and advice. Professor Neil Ferguson similarly was visited by his friend from north London, no harm in that. I reckon most of us take a chance speeding, or parking, and get away with it most of the while.
I am surprised so many folk appear to have abided by the rules, I think they were all scared of the virus. In fact I read that nobody under 60, in good health and not obese, should be afraid of it.
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Well what ever the rights or wrongs of what Dominic Cummings did or didn't do, I'm glad that Boris showed a bit of back bone and refused to be dictated to by the hysterical media and the lefty hate mob. :y
Instead being dictated to by a psychopathic sidekick ;D
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Well what ever the rights or wrongs of what Dominic Cummings did or didn't do, I'm glad that Boris showed a bit of back bone and refused to be dictated to by the hysterical media and the lefty hate mob. :y
Instead being dictated to by a psychopathic sidekick ;D
Yep! :y
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Fine him the £1000 fine that people entering the UK will get if they get caught breaking the 14 day Quarantine ;D :D
like that's going to deter anyone , may as well just charge the £1000 fine at source when they book the plane ticket ::)
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Not sure why... Alastair Campbell being an obvious example...
Obvious example or Odious example ?
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Not sure why... Alastair Campbell being an obvious example...
Obvious example or Odious example ?
Facebook and Twitter weren't around in 2003, but I wonder if there would have been a hysterical meltdown over Alastair Campbell's 'dodgy dossier'? :-\
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Cummings is to Boris, what Campbell was to Blair. He is the brains of Boris,s outfit, the power behind the throne.
He wont go unless the noise becomes so deafening it becomes impossible to govern.
I still haven't made my mind up what I think about him, but I don't think he will be too concerned about my indecision.
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I understand that Cummings' son is [allegedly] autistic, so that adds weight to the fact that he could not leave him in London with agency childcare.
I supported his actions before and even more so now. :y
Oh, and look at the media scum surrounding Cummings on here. Why don't they resign themselves? They're breaking social distancing guidelines aren't they?
https://twitter.com/Glenndalmas/status/1264598673616449537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1264649517154041856%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Dgoingpostalcomt_i%3D4911020https3A2F2Fgoing-postal.com2F3Fp3D49110t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Fgoing-postal.com2F20202F052Fedge-figures-on-a-landscape2Ft_e%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapet_d%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapet_t%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapes_o%3Ddescversion%3D9e3da5ae8d7caf8389087c4c35a6ca1b (https://twitter.com/Glenndalmas/status/1264598673616449537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1264649517154041856%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Dgoingpostalcomt_i%3D4911020https3A2F2Fgoing-postal.com2F3Fp3D49110t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Fgoing-postal.com2F20202F052Fedge-figures-on-a-landscape2Ft_e%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapet_d%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapet_t%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapes_o%3Ddescversion%3D9e3da5ae8d7caf8389087c4c35a6ca1b)
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Hmmmm..
Journalist Mary Wakefield revealed that No10 chief Mr Cummings, 48, spent 10 days bedridden after 'collapsing' and having 'spasms' with the disease at the end of March.
Despite claims that the couple travelled 260 miles so they could access childcare, the article Ms Wakefield wrote for the Spectator last month says he was nursed by their young son.
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I understand that Cummings' son is [allegedly] autistic, so that adds weight to the fact that he could not leave him in London with agency childcare.
I supported his actions before and even more so now. :y
Oh, and look at the media scum surrounding Cummings on here. Why don't they resign themselves? They're breaking social distancing guidelines aren't they?
https://twitter.com/Glenndalmas/status/1264598673616449537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1264649517154041856%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Dgoingpostalcomt_i%3D4911020https3A2F2Fgoing-postal.com2F3Fp3D49110t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Fgoing-postal.com2F20202F052Fedge-figures-on-a-landscape2Ft_e%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapet_d%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapet_t%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapes_o%3Ddescversion%3D9e3da5ae8d7caf8389087c4c35a6ca1b (https://twitter.com/Glenndalmas/status/1264598673616449537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1264649517154041856%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Dgoingpostalcomt_i%3D4911020https3A2F2Fgoing-postal.com2F3Fp3D49110t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Fgoing-postal.com2F20202F052Fedge-figures-on-a-landscape2Ft_e%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapet_d%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapet_t%3DEdge2C20Figures20on20a20Landscapes_o%3Ddescversion%3D9e3da5ae8d7caf8389087c4c35a6ca1b)
You'll find an even better/worse one in reply #51
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You have to admire the guy for keeping his shit together coming out and having to deal with that. ::)
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Hmmmm..
Journalist Mary Wakefield revealed that No10 chief Mr Cummings, 48, spent 10 days bedridden after 'collapsing' and having 'spasms' with the disease at the end of March.
Despite claims that the couple travelled 260 miles so they could access childcare, the article Ms Wakefield wrote for the Spectator last month says he was nursed by their young son.
Don't see the point you are trying to make. Autistic kids get on very well with people they know, such as family members. He could not be left alone with someone he didn't know.
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Read the whole article, see if you can find the truth in it. Then say 'it's the lying, cheating daily fail'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8350223/Dominic-Cummings-wife-described-collapsed-spasms.html
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Where do the (grand) parents birthdays fall in relation to the travel event timeline, or is that just media spin?
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Read the whole article, see if you can find the truth in it. Then say 'it's the lying, cheating daily fail'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8350223/Dominic-Cummings-wife-described-collapsed-spasms.html
No thanks, Steve. Had enough of all this now.
It's all political shenanigans. I'm off to bed. ;)
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Where do the (grand) parents birthdays fall in relation to the travel event timeline, or is that just media spin?
Media spin.
If you look hard enough you'll always find something to join the dots regardless of how tentative the link...
Put any two people in the same district at the same time and the chances are that they will have ten things in common.
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Where do the (grand) parents birthdays fall in relation to the travel event timeline, or is that just media spin?
Media spin.
If you look hard enough you'll always find something to join the dots regardless of how tentative the link...
Put any two people in the same district at the same time and the chances are that they will have ten things in common.
Does that extend to parents birthdays?
On each parent stream?
Twice, on separate visits?
Or is that sheer chance as well?
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One wonders why the claimed "autism" of the child is not mentioned a single time by either BBC or ITV ...... if the child is (unfortunately) autistic .. that can only be a deliberate omission simply as it undermines their stand ..... if the child is NOT autistic one would expect them to be crying "foul" from every corner ..... to me that only leaves one explanation ...deliberate omission as it does not suit their "line"
There was a time when the main TV channels actually "reported" the news ... rather than trying to manufacture what they want folk to think is the news...... ie their agenda.
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Where do the (grand) parents birthdays fall in relation to the travel event timeline, or is that just media spin?
Media spin.
If you look hard enough you'll always find something to join the dots regardless of how tentative the link...
Put any two people in the same district at the same time and the chances are that they will have ten things in common.
Does that extend to parents birthdays?
On each parent stream?
Twice, on separate visits?
Or is that sheer chance as well?
Quite possibly. I haven't looked into the 'facts' of this event as it would now be almost impossible to establish genuine truths.
Neither we, nor the media were there, and therefore cannot pass judgement on the either the allegations or how we may have responded in those circumstances.
If I go to Tescos and pass my neighbour exiting as I enter and subsequently find that there are no eggs or flour, is it reasonable to conclude that my neighbour had bought the entire stock of both? Of course it isn't.
Who said anything about Richard Hammond taking a Tesla Model X out for a road trip just before Easter, or the Grandiad journalist who flew to Amsterdam a week or so ago (and wrote a published article about it FFS)? No one, that's who.
I have long stopped watching the 'news' because it is largely spun to garner a reaction rather than provide a summary of events.
I only watch the daily briefings to follow the progress of the the Batflu situation and possibly find out when I might actually be able to get back to work... I certainly don't watch them to listen to a bunch of self important leftwing morons try and patronise whomever is presenting the briefing by asking the same question twenty different ways.
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Must agree with the questioning, it’s just repetitive, illogical, baiting, dramatic, sensational, fkg sh,t. It’s worn itself out now and time they stopped the ridiculous farce.
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Have a look at the Trip Advisor reviews for Barnard Castle ;D ;D ;D ;D
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It's basically the do as I say, not as I do.
A standard management order
Doesn't affect me, so it's a non story, being spun by the lefties in the usual point scoring way.
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Th story will run through most of this week imo, and then something else will pop up.
This Govt. does seem to be squandering the political capital it had when it won that 80 seat majority a short time ago, though.
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It's basically the do as I say, not as I do.
A standard management order
Doesn't affect me, so it's a non story, being spun by the lefties in the usual point scoring way.
Yes, all the leftie Tory backbenchers and scientific advisers.
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Gonna leave you lot to it. Off for a day out in the sunshine. No, I will not be visiting Barnard Castle.
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Everybody is entitled to ignore advice. He should accept it gratefully, bear it in mind, then feel free to decide for himself how to proceed. If a government wants the nation to behave in a certain way, it begins with advice, then proceeds through subsidy and taxation to legislation.
It is not a crime to ignore advice, just the exercise of free choice.
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I suspect that most people presented with the circumstances that the Cummings family found themselves in would have taken similar actions if they had the opportunity, but then the lefty hate mob and hypocrisy are no strangers. ::)
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I suspect that most people presented with the circumstances that the Cummings family found themselves in would have taken similar actions if they had the opportunity, but then the lefty hate mob and hypocrisy are no strangers. ::)
You are probably wrong. https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/government-defends-cummings-decision-to-go-dogging-20200525196813
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Th story will run through most of this week imo, and then something else will pop up.
This Govt. does seem to be squandering the political capital it had when it won that 80 seat majority a short time ago, though.
That is what I have been saying as, regardless of the facts or not, Boris is allowing a political distraction take over from the crucial business of his government, and his standing as PM, whilst there is a crisis on. Any political advantage that Boris had after the very successful election is being squandered away, for what?!
Like many now, I suspect Cummings knows too much for Boris to act in a rational and politically sensitive way and that in itself is now very disturbing and could be ultimately highly damaging to this Government, and us, the people. :(
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Boris has shown very little promise as a leader of the country so far. We keep waiting for his "cometh the hour, cometh the man" moment, but I have a feeling that moment came and went about three months ago.
But he is lucky in that there is no-one else to compete against him at the moment. I suspect the mainstream media are going to fall in love with Starmer though and push his agenda at every opportunity. Then the Tories might be in very serious trouble.
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Perhaps 'Demonic' Cummings has some racy pictures of Boris with some nuns. :)
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Where's the candle?
Yes it does Mother Superior.
The old one's are the best. ;)
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Where's the candle?
Yes it does Mother Superior.
The old one's are the best. ;)
Alternatively....
2 nuns in the bath and one says..
Where's the soap?
Yes it does Sister...
:)
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Th story will run through most of this week imo, and then something else will pop up.
This Govt. does seem to be squandering the political capital it had when it won that 80 seat majority a short time ago, though.
That is what I have been saying as, regardless of the facts or not, Boris is allowing a political distraction take over from the crucial business of his government, and his standing as PM, whilst there is a crisis on. Any political advantage that Boris had after the very successful election is being squandered away, for what?!
Like many now, I suspect Cummings knows too much for Boris to act in a rational and politically sensitive way and that in itself is now very disturbing and could be ultimately highly damaging to this Government, and us, the people. :(
Disagree. If anything, now is the time that Boris needs to show some backbone and face down the mob. :)
In my view Cummings provides some much needed steel in this government and if he is ousted I can see all sorts of negative consequences down the track as the Tory wets gain influence. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the so called transition period with the EU was extended for example. ::)
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If you have been fined under the lockdown rules you can now get a refund under the new Cummings and goings law. :D
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Watch out he’s cumming for you......,,
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Well, now after hearing the man what do we all think..................?
I must admit that for me his explanation seems fair enough in terms of two very important aspects; first the security risk to his family, who were showing virus symptoms, by staying in his London home after having, he claims, threats made against him - then the risk and circumstances when up in Durham, but him staying in a separate house, isolated on private property.
Don't know about the "road test" to the Castle, but that is plausible.
So on balance, it is a great pity all this did not come out for the public days ago and his news conference was not before his boss's yesterday. But he is a human being, and we can make bad judgements; he acted as he felt best, even though perhaps he could have handled it better.
But now the distraction I have been complaining about has got to stop, he and us move on, and Boris's Government must deal with the real matters in hand!
Move on, let it be! ;)
PS But will the news hungry press allow anyone to?! ::) ::)
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Seems plausible & he appears far more humble than last night move on & hopefully he's learned from this.
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No idea if any of what he said is true, but unless any facts emerge to contradict him, he is off the hook.
Interestingly, the journalist who is giving him the hardest time, is the one from the Daily Mail, which goes to show how much the Mail has changed since changing its editor a year or so ago. ::)
The standard of journalism is appalling. Its clear that most of them have written their questions before he gave his speech, and despite the fact what he said made those questions no longer relevant, they are still asking them anyway. Presumably because they are too dimwitted to think up new ones on the spot.
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Where is the fire breathing Demonic Cummings? People were right in one respect, he doesn't admit fault and he doesn't say sorry.
I'm reserving judgement. If people accept what he is saying as the truth, then that should be an end to it. But I somehow don't think it will be.
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Where else are they going to go with it though ? For my money he is safe now. If the media keep banging on about it now they will be the bad guys carrying out a witch hunt against him.
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Where else are they going to go with it though ? For my money he is safe now. If the media keep banging on about it now they will be the bad guys carrying out a witch hunt against him.
I agree, but when has that ever stopped them?
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I was mowing the lawn.
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I said my piece on the matter yesterday :-X
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He's got to go as he has become a political liability to Boris, and a gift to the opposition.
So, go man, go!! >:( >:(
A stupid move, and Cummings must go no matter what was the timeline and facts around the case.
Get rid of Cummings and Boris has got rid of the unnecessary distraction ;)
Isn't it annoying how the sheep can jump to conclusions and pull the trigger before hearing the facts?
Well, now after hearing the man what do we all think..................?
I must admit that for me his explanation seems fair enough in terms of two very important aspects; first the security risk to his family, who were showing virus symptoms, by staying in his London home after having, he claims, threats made against him - then the risk and circumstances when up in Durham, but him staying in a separate house, isolated on private property.
So on balance, it is a great pity all this did not come out for the public days ago and his news conference was not before his boss's yesterday. But he is a human being, and we can make bad judgements; he acted as he felt best, even though perhaps he could have handled it better.
It's lucky you don't have a gun, Ms Zoom! ::)
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I think it's time to drop it
I'm sure all of us have visited a castle before now , I know I have
I even paid and went in :-[
you'd think at £15 odd a head they could get some decent furniture and up to date pictures and stuff , not all that out of date tat ::)
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I think Brendan O'Neill sums it up best:
"The media’s Dominic Cummings story has completely collapsed. He did NOT go to Durham a second time, which was reported on the front page of the Sunday Mirror and the Observer. He did NOT have any physical contact with family members. The police did NOT talk to the Cummings family about the Covid lockdown guidelines. Cummings did NOT carry on doing things that everyone else had stopped doing — he even missed the funeral of his uncle who died from Covid. He did NOT leave his London home for leisure reasons — he left it because he was receiving death threats as a result of media demonisation. He was very ill, his wife was ill, and at one point his child was taken to hospital in an ambulance in Durham.
His family has had a really rough time and the media have told lie after lie about him. The scandal is not Cummings’ behaviour — it is the collapse of ethics and objectivity in the British media."
For me, the final twelve words sum up this despicable witch hunt. >:( >:(
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I think Brendan O'Neill sums it up best:
"The media’s Dominic Cummings story has completely collapsed. He did NOT go to Durham a second time, which was reported on the front page of the Sunday Mirror and the Observer. He did NOT have any physical contact with family members. The police did NOT talk to the Cummings family about the Covid lockdown guidelines. Cummings did NOT carry on doing things that everyone else had stopped doing — he even missed the funeral of his uncle who died from Covid. He did NOT leave his London home for leisure reasons — he left it because he was receiving death threats as a result of media demonisation. He was very ill, his wife was ill, and at one point his child was taken to hospital in an ambulance in Durham.
His family has had a really rough time and the media have told lie after lie about him. The scandal is not Cummings’ behaviour — it is the collapse of ethics and objectivity in the British media."
For me, the final twelve words sum up this despicable witch hunt. >:( >:(
Ermmmm...yes....but. What's the 'collapse' bit all about? To collapse from suggests that the media once had ethics and objectivity. I'm quite old and I don't remember that.
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So it seems that the British "media" have now re-written a basic tenet of our lives over the past few hundred years .... from now on everyone is guilty until proved innocent... and if the answers that prove you innocent are not what the media want then they will be ignored so you are guilty anyway.
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He's got to go as he has become a political liability to Boris, and a gift to the opposition.
So, go man, go!! >:( >:(
A stupid move, and Cummings must go no matter what was the timeline and facts around the case.
Get rid of Cummings and Boris has got rid of the unnecessary distraction ;)
Isn't it annoying how the sheep can jump to conclusions and pull the trigger before hearing the facts?
Well, now after hearing the man what do we all think..................?
I must admit that for me his explanation seems fair enough in terms of two very important aspects; first the security risk to his family, who were showing virus symptoms, by staying in his London home after having, he claims, threats made against him - then the risk and circumstances when up in Durham, but him staying in a separate house, isolated on private property.
So on balance, it is a great pity all this did not come out for the public days ago and his news conference was not before his boss's yesterday. But he is a human being, and we can make bad judgements; he acted as he felt best, even though perhaps he could have handled it better.
It's lucky you don't have a gun, Ms Zoom! ::)
Well, no. I was concerned, and still am, about the distraction this is causing for the urgent business of Boris’s Government and the health of this country.
Cummings may have given a plausible explanation Of his actions, but did I say he shouldn’t go eventually?
No I deliberately didn’t, because it now depends on the Country’s reactions and, regrettably, the hunger still left in the press pack of hounds to chase this story. Watching the situation since the Cummings press conference, it would appear it is not over. So, in the interests of everyone, no matter how innocent or not Cummings is, he must eventually, within days, go. If he does not the damage already done to Boris will be irreversible.
Boris must act in a Machiavellian manner and act in interests of the many, not Cummings. He must now be history ;)
That is life in politics (and the commercial managerial world that I knew) so you live or die by it.
Now we must move on. ;)
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No Lizzie ..it is actually time now to stand up to the gutter press and show them that
a) They should report the news, not try and manufacture it with falsehoods
b) They don't run the country, the Government do
The "country" won't have a reaction ..... some idiots with no braincells will simply repeat, ad nauseum , what the gutter press put out
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No I deliberately didn’t, because it now depends on the Country’s reactions and, regrettably, the hunger still left in the press pack of hounds to chase this story. Watching the situation since the Cummings press conference, it would appear it is not over. So, in the interests of everyone, no matter how innocent or not Cummings is, he must eventually, within days, go. If he does not the damage already done to Boris will be irreversible.
Boris must act in a Machiavellian manner and act in interests of the many, not Cummings. He must now be history ;)
The problem with this, is if he resigns, that would be an admission of guilt. If he is 'asked to leave' that implies the Government think him guilty.
The MSM have much to answer for with the way they have dealt with this, and changes should be made immediately. Of course, the Government cannot simply tell the Press how to do their job, that's not how a Democratic system works, but I think many of those reporters who have WITHOUT QUESTION broken safety guidelines should be in a meeting first thing tomorrow morning with their arses handed to them.
As for the general public who asked for his head at the first hint of any wrongdoing, they have been taught a lesson, and whilst I don't believe many will change, I hope at least some do!
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No I deliberately didn’t, because it now depends on the Country’s reactions and, regrettably, the hunger still left in the press pack of hounds to chase this story. Watching the situation since the Cummings press conference, it would appear it is not over. So, in the interests of everyone, no matter how innocent or not Cummings is, he must eventually, within days, go. If he does not the damage already done to Boris will be irreversible.
Boris must act in a Machiavellian manner and act in interests of the many, not Cummings. He must now be history ;)
The problem with this, is if he resigns, that would be an admission of guilt. If he is 'asked to leave' that implies the Government think him guilty.
The MSM have much to answer for with the way they have dealt with this, and changes should be made immediately. Of course, the Government cannot simply tell the Press how to do their job, that's not how a Democratic system works, but I think many of those reporters who have WITHOUT QUESTION broken safety guidelines should be in a meeting first thing tomorrow morning with their arses handed to them.
As for the general public who asked for his head at the first hint of any wrongdoing, they have been taught a lesson, and whilst I don't believe many will change, I hope at least some do!
No such animal ... the press have simply found folks who will repeat "their" agenda and put it forward as an opinion .... have you been asked your thoughts ? has anyone on OOF? has anyone you know ?? .. I very much doubt it.
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In 2009 I was accosted by a local TV reporter to ask what I felt about the recession and its impact on my life. I suggested that I was getting by, but that if the banks were suffering that was self inflicted as the situation was entirely of their making... Suffice to say that I wasn't on the news that evening ;D
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No Lizzie ..it is actually time now to stand up to the gutter press and show them that
a) They should report the news, not try and manufacture it with falsehoods
b) They don't run the country, the Government do
The "country" won't have a reaction ..... some idiots with no braincells will simply repeat, ad nauseum , what the gutter press put out
Yes, in a perfect World, but we are talking about politics here, not fairness or righteousness, just nasty, angry and cruel power games. If Cummings had told his story days ago, if Boris had played a different game on this then, yes, perhaps the situation would be very different. But, no, Boris played right into the media’s game of political destruction and backed a man who is not liked nor trusted by many, including in the Conservative Party, on a very dodgy wicket.
You cannot play the game of British politics badly and get away with it in our democracy; people here, not like in China or Russia, ask very direct and blunt questions and will keep digging the dirt and, like it or not, average Mr and Mrs Jo Public, will go with the flow. That is what happens in high business management to a large extent, but often without the press interference (unless you are British Steel, Network Rail, Northern Rail, Virgin, Debenhams, M&S etc!!), but in politics we should recognise the ruthlessness of it all. Many senior politicians in history have paid the price of not being Machiavellian enough.
No, as I have already implied, Boris, as any good general does, must regain the high ground, regroup, cut your losses for the greater good, and go on a fresh attack. The media can then be wrong footed, but if he keeps this current battle going, that he cannot win, then he will lose the war.
That is not good for the country. >:( >:( >:(
Cummings must be history now.
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Stand by for 'Cummings took drugs at uni', 'Cummings secret lover', 'Cummings was nasty to next doors cat'.
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No, as I have already implied, Boris, as any good general does, must regain the high ground, regroup, cut your losses for the greater good, and go on a fresh attack. The media can then be wrong footed, but if he keeps this current battle going, that he cannot win, then he will lose the war.
That is not good for the country. >:( >:( >:(
Cummings must be history now.
Strong leaders have never given in to the baying mob at the gate and neither should Boris. ;)
If he does show weakness and give in, the media attack dogs will really scent blood and will move on to another despised Brexiteer, as this is what this is really about. Revenge! ::)
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Stand by for 'Cummings took drugs at uni', 'Cummings secret lover', 'Cummings was nasty to next doors cat'.
I think they've already done that one? ;D
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This is my view of the affair, regarding the press.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jqy4pZr2/7fa.gif)
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Stand by for 'Cummings took drugs at uni', 'Cummings secret lover', 'Cummings was nasty to next doors cat'.
I think they've already done that one? ;D
Have they done this one?
(https://i.ibb.co/dc89SFr/C87-ABDA2-A444-4742-AC14-5-B0719-B88932.png) (https://ibb.co/N3chX5s)
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I think Brendan O'Neill sums it up best:
"The media’s Dominic Cummings story has completely collapsed. He did NOT go to Durham a second time, which was reported on the front page of the Sunday Mirror and the Observer. He did NOT have any physical contact with family members. The police did NOT talk to the Cummings family about the Covid lockdown guidelines. Cummings did NOT carry on doing things that everyone else had stopped doing — he even missed the funeral of his uncle who died from Covid. He did NOT leave his London home for leisure reasons — he left it because he was receiving death threats as a result of media demonisation. He was very ill, his wife was ill, and at one point his child was taken to hospital in an ambulance in Durham.
His family has had a really rough time and the media have told lie after lie about him. The scandal is not Cummings’ behaviour — it is the collapse of ethics and objectivity in the British media."
For me, the final twelve words sum up this despicable witch hunt. >:( >:(
Ermmmm...yes....but. What's the 'collapse' bit all about? To collapse from suggests that the media once had ethics and objectivity. I'm quite old and I don't remember that.
Fair point. Me neither. ;)
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So, in the interests of everyone, no matter how innocent or not Cummings is, he must eventually, within days, go. If he does not the damage already done to Boris will be irreversible.
No, no, no. That's surrendering to the media. >:( >:(
Speaking to rea people (i.e. not the Twitterati), I get the feeling that Cummings has a lot of support for his actions. :y
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I see mad woman Gina Miller has tweeted this:
"Re-listened to #DominicCummings statement & a serious question for @SuellaBraverman AG & @BorisJohnson . Should Cummings be charged under Road Traffic Act 1988? I've had #COVID19 confirmed by #antibodytest & I can say it takes a long time to be fit to drive long distances."
Gina Miller, eh? So, it was all to do with Brexit. ::) ::)
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I see mad woman Gina Miller has tweeted this:
"Re-listened to #DominicCummings statement & a serious question for @SuellaBraverman AG & @BorisJohnson . Should Cummings be charged under Road Traffic Act 1988? I've had #COVID19 confirmed by #antibodytest & I can say it takes a long time to be fit to drive long distances."
Gina Miller, eh? So, it was all to do with Brexit. ::) ::)
Two things,
1) So he did actually do the right thing and take a small test-drive in a quiet location.....
2) That advice is given to all women, covid + or not!
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Cummings is Boris gatekeeper. Although the media hate him and would love to drive him out, the real target is Boris. They know if they bring Cummings down the path to Boris will be easier. Boris also knows this, which is why Cummings will be staying in his job if at all possible.
Its gone beyond " He should go to save further problems for the Govt." If Boris fires him now after supporting him fully, they will have damaged him severely.
I will be surprised if Cummings goes.
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https://order-order.com/2020/05/25/picnicking-leo-varadkar-broke-irish-lockdown-rules/
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The difference with Verruca is that he is a poster boy for the liberal left, and the mainstream Irish media is mostly liberal left, so they aren't making a big deal of the story.
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No, as I have already implied, Boris, as any good general does, must regain the high ground, regroup, cut your losses for the greater good, and go on a fresh attack. The media can then be wrong footed, but if he keeps this current battle going, that he cannot win, then he will lose the war.
That is not good for the country. >:( >:( >:(
Cummings must be history now.
Strong leaders have never given in to the baying mob at the gate and neither should Boris. ;)
If he does show weakness and give in, the media attack dogs will really scent blood and will move on to another despised Brexiteer, as this is what this is really about. Revenge! ::)
I can completely understand that point of view, but the interests of the country must come first and the PM should be now allowed to be able to concentrate on the urgent business of State.
WE, the people, have allowed the media to become far too powerful and now we again reap the consequences of that. Standing up against the media is great when there is no cost in doing that, but if you see and listen to the media this morning there is a huge political cost to all this. How Cummings actions and explanation are being perceived is critical, with a Tory MP even resigning this morning over it, so Boris and Government must now move on and, as I said before, cut their losses before the damage becomes critical ;)
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Is it just me that really could not give a dam?
And worse still, had I been in his position I would have done the same?
At the end of the day there has never been a lock down and we were all restricted to 'essential' journeys, its what do you define as an 'essential' journey?
This whole thing just shows what an evil and shit media we have.
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Is it just me that really could not give a dam?
And worse still, had I been in his position I would have done the same?
At the end of the day there has never been a lock down and we were all restricted to 'essential' journeys, its what do you define as an 'essential' journey?
This whole thing just shows what an evil and shit media we have.
Thats the last 9 pages summed up very well Mark :y :y
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The news is still full of it so we are giving the news a miss for 48 hours at least , we've both had enough of it the press & some of the public seem to have forgotten what is actually going on in the world , so wifey & I are just going to enjoy our time together , might even go for a long drive & sit by a river ! 😃😄😀
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The news is still full of it so we are giving the news a miss for 48 hours at least , we've both had enough of it the press & some of the public seem to have forgotten what is actually going on in the world , so wifey & I are just going to enjoy our time together , might even go for a long drive & sit by a river ! 😃😄😀
Yes we are getting very little on ‘other news’ I’m fed up of the same crap day after day too with each channel/newspaper trying to outdo each other with another take/what if etc, I will limit my news intake too :y
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Interesting comparison, that the lefties press have forgotten about.
https://twitter.com/Steven_Woolfe/status/1264920955593396224?s=09
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Anyway I see dommys jaunt a part of him enabling himself to work from home as let’s be fair he is still working. (In a way) ;D
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Interesting comparison, that the lefties press have forgotten about.
https://twitter.com/Steven_Woolfe/status/1264920955593396224?s=09
Yep on Sunday Starmer stood outside his gate and told the world that he would have sacked Cummings, yet he has taken no action against these Labour MP's.... ::)
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The fact that the odious Gina Miller has waded in demonstrates that it is a revenge witch hunt for his part in bring about Brexit.
Having said that, I heard this morning that Cummings drive to Barnard Castle to test drive his eyes, just happened to take place on his wifes birthday. If true, it makes the charge of "taking everyone for mugs" pretty difficult to deny.
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The fact that the odious Gina Miller has waded in demonstrates that it is a revenge witch hunt for his part in bring about Brexit.
Having said that, I heard this morning that Cummings drive to Barnard Castle to test drive his eyes, just happened to take place on his wifes birthday. If true, it makes the charge of "taking everyone for mugs" pretty difficult to deny.
Nobody takes a 60 mile round trip to see if their eyes are good enough for driving. ::)
Can't his wife drive?
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The fact that the odious Gina Miller has waded in demonstrates that it is a revenge witch hunt for his part in bring about Brexit.
Having said that, I heard this morning that Cummings drive to Barnard Castle to test drive his eyes, just happened to take place on his wifes birthday. If true, it makes the charge of "taking everyone for mugs" pretty difficult to deny.
Nobody takes a 60 mile round trip to see if their eyes are good enough for driving. ::)
Can't his wife drive?
Apparently she can indeed
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The fact that the odious Gina Miller has waded in demonstrates that it is a revenge witch hunt for his part in bring about Brexit.
Having said that, I heard this morning that Cummings drive to Barnard Castle to test drive his eyes, just happened to take place on his wifes birthday. If true, it makes the charge of "taking everyone for mugs" pretty difficult to deny.
Nobody takes a 60 mile round trip to see if their eyes are good enough for driving. ::)
Can't his wife drive?
Apparently she can indeed
Yes, but look at the choice. Drive with dodgy eyesight, or be driven by a woman. I know which I'd choose.
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Paddy McGuiness' take on the fiasco .... ::)
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/sha-la-la-la-loada-18315205
you've to scroll down a bit passed all the ads ....
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The fact that the odious Gina Miller has waded in demonstrates that it is a revenge witch hunt for his part in bring about Brexit.
Having said that, I heard this morning that Cummings drive to Barnard Castle to test drive his eyes, just happened to take place on his wifes birthday. If true, it makes the charge of "taking everyone for mugs" pretty difficult to deny.
Nobody takes a 60 mile round trip to see if their eyes are good enough for driving. ::)
Can't his wife drive?
Apparently she can indeed
Yes, but look at the choice. Drive with dodgy eyesight, or be driven by a woman. I know which I'd choose.
You have a point. ;D ;D
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The fact that the odious Gina Miller has waded in demonstrates that it is a revenge witch hunt for his part in bring about Brexit.
Having said that, I heard this morning that Cummings drive to Barnard Castle to test drive his eyes, just happened to take place on his wifes birthday. If true, it makes the charge of "taking everyone for mugs" pretty difficult to deny.
Nobody takes a 60 mile round trip to see if their eyes are good enough for driving. ::)
Can't his wife drive?
Apparently she can indeed
Yes, but look at the choice. Drive with dodgy eyesight, or be driven by a woman. I know which I'd choose.
You have a point. ;D ;D
Uncle STEMO should put that up on Facebook and Twitter. See what happens! ;D
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So, Durham police state that
"A police investigation into the actions of Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson's top aide, has concluded there "might have been a minor breach" of lockdown regulations when he made a journey from his parents' property in Durham to the town of Barnard Castle." ...
and, more importantly ..
"The force also concluded that Mr Cummings' trip from his London home to Durham, made with his wife who was showing coronavirus symptoms, did not break the rules."
and that they are taking no action.
Kier Starmer states .... in response ...
"well, if Cummings doesn’t have to abide by the rules, why do I have to?"
Unless my understanding of the English language is completely wrong .... the police statement "did not break the rules." means, I believe, that he DID actually "abide by the rules"....
So, can someone explain to this simple idiot, what language is Starmer speaking in ??? or has the English language now become "I'll say whatever I want and it will mean whatever I want, regardless of the truth"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52835982
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Typical Politician as they all say 1 thing and mean another when questioned.Bit like our News reporters
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He just simply does not know what he’s saying. He’s quite stupid 8)
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I wonder how hard the Chief Constable and/or the PCC of Durham were "leaned" on by bully girl Priti.
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I'm bored witless by this. Glad bojo tried to shut up that lazy blonde Scottish tart from the BBC.
Did the idiot do wrong? On balance, probably not-ish. Either by the letter of the rules, or the spirit of it. Move on FFS.
And the Labour leader shot himself in the foot saying we've wasted a week talking about it. No shit, Sherlock, so STFU.
I mean, really?
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Question for Kier. If Corbyn (over 70 so highly vulnerable) has complete ignored the rules and the whole concept of social distancing from day one,why should anyone else bother, and why havent you withdrawn the whip, expelled him and reported him to the Police ?
https://order-order.com/2020/05/28/watch-jeremy-corbyn-met-with-son-weeks-ago/
https://order-order.com/2020/05/28/corbyns-lockdown-social-distancing-birthday-breach/
And a long list of other examples.
https://order-order.com/?s=corbyn%20social%20distancing#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=corbyn%20social%20distancing&gsc.page=1
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Question for Kier. If Corbyn (over 70 so highly vulnerable) has complete ignored the rules and the whole concept of social distancing from day one,why should anyone else bother, and why havent you withdrawn the whip, expelled him and reported him to the Police ?
https://order-order.com/2020/05/28/watch-jeremy-corbyn-met-with-son-weeks-ago/
https://order-order.com/2020/05/28/corbyns-lockdown-social-distancing-birthday-breach/
And a long list of other examples.
https://order-order.com/?s=corbyn%20social%20distancing#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=corbyn%20social%20distancing&gsc.page=1
A very good point, Albs. I'll bet not many are aware of this.
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It cant be beacuse most of our mainstream media are extremely biased though. They must have just been busy and missed the story. :y ::)
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It cant be beacuse most of our mainstream media are extremely biased though. They must have just been busy and missed the story. :y ::)
Or they kept it quiet because they hoped he'd catch the virus and die ;D
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I have just been contacted by the contact tracing app people. Anyone you have been in contact with? Cummings was the first name I could think of. ;D
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It cant be beacuse most of our mainstream media are extremely biased though. They must have just been busy and missed the story. :y ::)
Or they kept it quiet because they hoped he'd catch the virus and die ;D
I was hoping this too but the c@nt just keeps on stealing air🔥
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Much as I thought it brought great shame on the Labour party, and the country as a whole when they elected him as leader, I hoped he would stay in the job for many years to come. He was never going to be electable as long as he had a hole in his arse.
It would also be nice if we actually had a Tory party (or some other party) that was worth voting for. ::)
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That’s the trouble,we have no better to choose from :-[ :-[ They are all wasters
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Much as I thought it brought great shame on the Labour party, and the country as a whole when they elected him as leader, I hoped he would stay in the job for many years to come. He was never going to be electable as long as he had a hole in his arse.
It would also be nice if we actually had a Tory party (or some other party) that was worth voting for. ::)
Actually I think he had a fairly good go at it in 2017, but that was more because Theresa May was completely useless than anything else... ::)
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Much as I thought it brought great shame on the Labour party, and the country as a whole when they elected him as leader, I hoped he would stay in the job for many years to come. He was never going to be electable as long as he had a hole in his arse.
It would also be nice if we actually had a Tory party (or some other party) that was worth voting for. ::)
Actually I think he had a fairly good go at it in 2017, but that was more because Theresa May was completely useless than anything else... ::)
He had a good go by promising idiots things he could never deliver.
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Much as I thought it brought great shame on the Labour party, and the country as a whole when they elected him as leader, I hoped he would stay in the job for many years to come. He was never going to be electable as long as he had a hole in his arse.
It would also be nice if we actually had a Tory party (or some other party) that was worth voting for. ::)
Actually I think he had a fairly good go at it in 2017, but that was more because Theresa May was completely useless than anything else... ::)
He had a good go by promising idiots things he could never deliver.
Yep and a generation of naive new voters who believed him. :(
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Much as I thought it brought great shame on the Labour party, and the country as a whole when they elected him as leader, I hoped he would stay in the job for many years to come. He was never going to be electable as long as he had a hole in his arse.
It would also be nice if we actually had a Tory party (or some other party) that was worth voting for. ::)
Actually I think he had a fairly good go at it in 2017, but that was more because Theresa May was completely useless than anything else... ::)
He had a good go by promising idiots things he could never deliver.
which was no different to what the winner did.
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Much as I thought it brought great shame on the Labour party, and the country as a whole when they elected him as leader, I hoped he would stay in the job for many years to come. He was never going to be electable as long as he had a hole in his arse.
It would also be nice if we actually had a Tory party (or some other party) that was worth voting for. ::)
Actually I think he had a fairly good go at it in 2017, but that was more because Theresa May was completely useless than anything else... ::)
He had a good go by promising idiots things he could never deliver.
which was no different to what the winner did.
I don't think Theresa May actually promised that much.
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Much as I thought it brought great shame on the Labour party, and the country as a whole when they elected him as leader, I hoped he would stay in the job for many years to come. He was never going to be electable as long as he had a hole in his arse.
It would also be nice if we actually had a Tory party (or some other party) that was worth voting for. ::)
Actually I think he had a fairly good go at it in 2017, but that was more because Theresa May was completely useless than anything else... ::)
He had a good go by promising idiots things he could never deliver.
which was no different to what the winner did.
I don't think Theresa May actually promised that much.
The greatest PM this country has ever had. :)
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I bet she can't believe her luck not having to deal with all the nonsense that's occuring at the moment..😀
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Much as I thought it brought great shame on the Labour party, and the country as a whole when they elected him as leader, I hoped he would stay in the job for many years to come. He was never going to be electable as long as he had a hole in his arse.
It would also be nice if we actually had a Tory party (or some other party) that was worth voting for. ::)
Actually I think he had a fairly good go at it in 2017, but that was more because Theresa May was completely useless than anything else... ::)
He had a good go by promising idiots things he could never deliver.
which was no different to what the winner did.
I don't think Theresa May actually promised that much.
The greatest PM this country has ever had. :)
It's a toss up between her and the war criminal. ::) I think he shades it though.... :)
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I see the BBC don't bother to mention this anywhere ..
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1288182/Ian-blackford-coronavirus-lockdown-snp-news-dominic-cummings-resign
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I’ve said it before that Blackford is a W@#ker
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I’ve said it before that Blackford is a W@#ker
Investment banker millionaire with his sticky fingers in all sorts of pies and no doubt sees Scottish independence as a way to enrich himself and gain power and influence. :)
Try telling that to the JockNats though! ;D
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I see the BBC don't bother to mention this anywhere ..
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1288182/Ian-blackford-coronavirus-lockdown-snp-news-dominic-cummings-resign
And for him to go on TV and write articles in the Scottish press calling for Boris to sack Cummings is rank hypocrisy! ::)
Not that Hypocrisy and the left are strangers mind! :-X
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I see my favourite BBC gobshite is on form today ;D
Apparently taking a couple of days off, but she obviously enjoys ANY attention as most of the comments on her Twiiter feed are, how do you say?, unsupportive... ;D
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I think a lot of people are completely missing the point here. It doesn't matter, apart from Dominic Cummings, who did what. The press, and thus the baying mob, are only interested in one person. He is the target, the bullseye, the subject who's demise will prove that you can't ignore the press/people.
Nothing/no one else matters.
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Unfortunately that is probably going to be the likely outcome of this fiasco
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https://apple.news/AoZqo6zTeTpKFRMvaWwotgw
I’m not saying it’s been a witch hunt, but if you look at the facts vs what was reported, the MSM behaviour, and stuff like people openly making stories up, it’s hard to see how this wasn’t politically motivated.
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Not to mention the fact that certain BBC instigators are suddenly having time off :-X
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I see that the Mail have changed their tune somewhat and have gone from calling for Cumming's head to attacking the Lefties for their hypocrisy and for whipping up the hysteria! ::)
Probably realised how out of tune with their readership they were. ;)
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The Daily Mail......what a great paper.
The paper that hates everything and everybody. :)
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Not anymore. Its gone relatively soft & fluffy since changing editor a couple of years ago.
Richard Littlejohns column is always worth a read, but apart from that I usually just go to the back page and do the crossword, in a vain attempt to keep my brain cell alive.
I see that the MSM are also ignoring the fact that although Ian Blackford has been one of the cheerleaders calling for Cummings to resign, he travelled several hundred miles to the Isle of Skye 3 days into lockdown.
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Don’t mention that 7wat I can’t stand the fkr