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[Marks DTM Calib]

But my Lud, you haven't learned anything about motor vehicles, designed, assembled, and built in the west midland, you've bought a Jaaaag, which has been all of the above by Red Robbos grand children, ...

A fine product designed in the Cotswolds 

[New POD]

Having been upside down in a Morris Marina as a singer in an accident which killed a pedestrian you can guess what I think the Morris Marina it's s***

[Nick W]

Having been upside down in a Morris Marina as a singer in an accident which killed a pedestrian you can guess what I think the Morris Marina it's s***

I didn't enjoy the upside down in an Allegro experience either.
Although I did get to use the HIF carb and manifold on my sister's Mini

[Rangie]

Talking about vehicles from 45/50 years ago no real surprise.

[Nick W]

Talking about vehicles from 45/50 years ago no real surprise.

That Allegro experience was 31 years ago. The car was only 7 years old; younger than any I've owned.....

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Talking about vehicles from 45/50 years ago no real surprise.

That Allegro experience was 31 years ago. The car was only 7 years old; younger than any I've owned.....

Did they still make the All-aggro in 1983? Must have been one of the last.

[Rangie]

Talking about vehicles from 45/50 years ago no real surprise.

That Allegro experience was 31 years ago. The car was only 7 years old; younger than any I've owned.....

Did they still make the All-aggro in 1983? Must have been one of the last.

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I'd moved on from BLs offerings by then thank the Lord..😄

[Nick W]

Talking about vehicles from 45/50 years ago no real surprise.

That Allegro experience was 31 years ago. The car was only 7 years old; younger than any I've owned.....

Did they still make the All-aggro in 1983? Must have been one of the last.

. 

I'd moved on from BLs offerings by then thank the Lord..😄

Yes, early '80s Japanese stuff was much better in every way.

[Rangie]

Talking about vehicles from 45/50 years ago no real surprise.

That Allegro experience was 31 years ago. The car was only 7 years old; younger than any I've owned.....

Did they still make the All-aggro in 1983? Must have been one of the last.

. 

I'd moved on from BLs offerings by then thank the Lord..😄

Yes, early '80s Japanese stuff was much better in every way.

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So right, I had a Nissan Patrol & SWMBO a Nissan Micra both totally reliable .

[YZ250]

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Yes, early '80s Japanese stuff was much better in every way.

Ooh, engine wise maybe but my dad had a brand new Datsun Bluebird and a brand new Datsun Violet Coupe 160J. They rotted at such an alarming rate that it put him off Japanese for life. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

My Morris Marina 1800TC Coupe finished in BL mustard with a big black stripe down the bonnet handled very well, although it was probably more by luck than judgement that I didn't end up in a hedge upside down in a county lane late at night.   

[YZ250]

My Morris Marina 1800TC Coupe finished in BL mustard with a big black stripe down the bonnet handled very well, although it was probably more by luck than judgement that I didn't end up in a hedge upside down in a county lane late at night.   

When you own a car for a while you begin to know its capabilities, whether good or bad. I owned my Capri 3.0S for over six years and whilst other people thought the handling was crap due to its light arse end, it was extremely predictable. I could push slides at silly speeds because it was so predictable. My 3.5 SD1 TP was similar, although it was a lazy engine so backing off took a second or two longer to recover. 

[Nick W]

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Yes, early '80s Japanese stuff was much better in every way.

Ooh, engine wise maybe but my dad had a brand new Datsun Bluebird and a brand new Datsun Violet Coupe 160J. They rotted at such an alarming rate that it put him off Japanese for life. 

Yes Fords, Renaults, BL, BMW etc were well known for never needing welding in their first 40 years.


No, not years. I meant months.

[Rangie]

Worst car for rust I've ever owned was a 1976 Cortina 2000e & it filled with water every time it rained.

[YZ250]

Worst car for rust I've ever owned was a 1976 Cortina 2000e & it filled with water every time it rained.

The front wings went rusty early on my MK3 Cortina but I don't recall mine actually leaking. Then again it had no wheel arch liners so the mud and crap accumulated in the top corner of the front wings. I had to replace the wings on mine. My SD1 was just as bad for rust, but it was the door bottoms and rear wheel arch that suffered on those, as the SD1 doors didn't drain properly.
Both of these cars were second hand though, so I sort of expected it. My dads Japanese cars were brand new, and he didn't expect such rot within a couple of years. The philosophy was, buy Japanese, keep it for four or five years as it will be reliable and then throw it away before it disintegrated and start again. By contrast, I had my 3.0S Capri, purchased at around two years old, for about six years and it had no visible rust on it.     The guy that bought it off me kept it as a collectors car, I just wish I had.