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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #30 on: 14 June 2012, 21:51:38 »

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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #31 on: 14 June 2012, 21:56:14 »

This what you want Daz
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #32 on: 14 June 2012, 22:00:23 »

If I remember correctly Rob, the 3.0 and 2.5 adapter plates are separate like the picture I have posted, but on the 2.6 and 3.2 they are fastened to the Flex Plate like the picture you have posted..
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #33 on: 14 June 2012, 22:03:10 »

If I remember correctly Rob, the 3.0 and 2.5 adapter plates are separate like the picture I have posted, but on the 2.6 and 3.2 they are fastened to the Flex Plate like the picture you have posted..
The pic is one of yours when you were doing Paul Lovecocks car :D. IIRC his is a 2.5 innit :-\
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #34 on: 14 June 2012, 22:04:24 »

I have put a faint arrow could have been a bit thicker really but that shows where the size is different if you follow me. When the plate I have posted higher is fitted onto the end of the crank you then have the thickness of the plates lip too.
Like I say this is on a 3.0 sure they are different on the 2.6 & 3.2's as this plate stays on the flex plate like in your pic Rob :y

 


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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #35 on: 14 June 2012, 22:05:38 »

If I remember correctly Rob, the 3.0 and 2.5 adapter plates are separate like the picture I have posted, but on the 2.6 and 3.2 they are fastened to the Flex Plate like the picture you have posted..
The pic is one of yours when you were doing Paul Lovecocks car :D. IIRC his is a 2.5 innit :-\

It is definately a picture I took but Loverlength's car is a 2.6 mate  :y
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #36 on: 14 June 2012, 22:07:31 »

If I remember correctly Rob, the 3.0 and 2.5 adapter plates are separate like the picture I have posted, but on the 2.6 and 3.2 they are fastened to the Flex Plate like the picture you have posted..
The pic is one of yours when you were doing Paul Lovecocks car :D. IIRC his is a 2.5 innit :-\

It is definately a picture I took but Loverlength's car is a 2.6 mate  :y
I stand corrected then ::)
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #37 on: 14 June 2012, 22:08:22 »

Thanks Gents :y

I will double check, but to clarify..

On 2.5 and 3.0, adaptor ring is seperate and needs knocking off

on 2.6 and 3.2, it's part of the driveplate, so I shouldn't have to do this.

Have I read this right?

Cheers again :y
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #38 on: 14 June 2012, 22:13:25 »

Thanks Gents :y

I will double check, but to clarify..

On 2.5 and 3.0, adaptor ring is seperate and needs knocking off

on 2.6 and 3.2, it's part of the driveplate, so I shouldn't have to do this.

Have I read this right?



Cheers again :y


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Look at your third picture of this thread, take a look at the ring still on your Flex Plate. Then look at the picture Rob posted of the damaged one from Loverlength's 2.6... :y
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #39 on: 15 June 2012, 01:30:11 »

Cheers Daz :y

Just one more question (2 actually) for you good people.

The spigot bearing and Bush. The guide says push the bush into the crank... and then tap in the bearing...

the bearing isn't such that it would fit inside the bush - so what's the situation, does the bush go in first, and bearing in front of it? What does the bush do, is it just a spacer?

Also, the guide says to fit the gearstick etc prior to fitting the gearbox..

But the black plate the gear lever sits in, bolts onto the gearbox with 2 bolts... aside of 2 supporting ones at the rear of the tunnel, I Can't see anywhere to fix this? Should I just fit it with the box, all as one assembly?  :-\

I seem to remember leaving it all in the tunnel, when I took the box out of my old manual Omega for a clutch change, but no recollection of how it was fixed etc....  :-\
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #40 on: 15 June 2012, 08:59:32 »

James, do you want us to club together and come and do it for ya? ;D

I would leave the gearstick where it is, removing the gearbox separately. Pretty suresure the spiggot beaing just knocks in.
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #41 on: 15 June 2012, 10:32:51 »

James, please make some notes where you think the idiots maintenance guide needs to be clearer.  ;)

The guide was written around a 2.5, I didnt know the flexplate spacer had been fixed to the flexplate for the 2.6 / 3.2 so that is worth adding.

Spigot bearing: the nylon bit goes down the hole first, then tap in the needle roller bearing. I think the nylon bit helps the input shaft to align with the needle rollers when you are fitting the box.

Fit the gearlever first....to the car! You can struggle to fit it all togeather and rivet it in place once the box is in if you want but I wouldnt recommend it.

Think you said you were waiting for a new oil seal? If this comes a a bare seal, without an introducer (plastic sleeve) inside it, then you need to make one yourself to aid fitting to the block. If you fit it without you will be stripping it all down again fairly soon to replace the seal you damaged. :-[
Get hold of some brass shim or cut up a CokeTM can etc. You want enough thin metal to form a tight fitting tube around the end of the crank. Wrap the shim around the crank tightly and secure the ends with sellotape, then slide it off and make sure all sharp edges are covered with a layer of tape.
Grease the seal lips then carefully slide the tube into the seal ..from the outside of the seal.
Fit the tube over the end of the crank and slide the seal up to the block, carefully tap the seal into place before removing the tube.
The reason for all this is that the crank face and the block face are flush so you cannot get the seal lip to fit over the crank until the seal is partly fitted into the block and it is all too easy to damage the lip.

One other point, the gearbox rear cradle will bolt to a different pair of holes in the car floor to the ones used by the auto....check the bolts scew into the holes first, mine had some sort of coating clogging the threads which made life difficult, wished I had run a tap through first.
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #42 on: 15 June 2012, 12:56:00 »

the only thing holding the gear lever assembly is the rubber bit that covers the rectangular bit that rivets to the tunnel... 
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #43 on: 15 June 2012, 20:05:36 »

worked it out. Was me being a dope!

Update to come tomorrow eve. Parts are here too :y
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Re: Work on The Manual Conversion has Begun! (Pics)
« Reply #44 on: 16 June 2012, 21:31:38 »

Rear oil seal changed

nylon bush and spigot bearing fitted

flywheel and clutch kit fitted

gear lever assembly fitted and all sorted inside car

gearbox fitted

All with rain running down my neck.

Sorry for brief update, pub is calling...
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