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[zirk]

http://www.ico.org.uk/news/latest_news/2013/Police-use-of-Ring-of-Steel-is-disproportionate-and-must-be-reviewed-24072013?inf_contact_key=765d6f048e9d2ec383ab9fefb4f31ab101ed57f563b07162604bdd95e6d0737a

Fairly sure there's quiet a few Towns where you cant get in or out without your details being recorded. 

[Kevin Wood]

I don't see a problem, TBH. The teams who operate these schemes are generally after the perpetrators of serious crime - murder, rape, drug and people trafficking, car theft, large scale burglary, etc.

They are very against their data being used for mithering people over trivia like petty speeding because they have such big fish to fry. Solving the big crimes does tend to require that you can trace all vehicles in and out of an area around the time of the crime.

[iansoutham]

Thurrock has a full ANPR setup as well, along with signs on all entry points to the area stating so.

[zirk]

I don't see a problem, TBH. The teams who operate these schemes are generally after the perpetrators of serious crime - murder, rape, drug and people trafficking, car theft, large scale burglary, etc.

They are very against their data being used for mithering people over trivia like petty speeding because they have such big fish to fry. Solving the big crimes does tend to require that you can trace all vehicles in and out of an area around the time of the crime.

Tend to agree with you on the crime side TBH Kevin, but Im sure some will say just another revenue spinner from motorists. 

[zirk]

Thurrock has a full ANPR setup as well, along with signs on all entry points to the area stating so.

Yep, Southend is the same, along with soon or is now Basildon.

[Kevin Wood]

Thurrock has a full ANPR setup as well, along with signs on all entry points to the area stating so.

Yep, as do most motorway services. Popular places tor associates to meet and exchange dodgy material and the proceeds thereof.

Tend to agree with you on the crime side TBH Kevin, but Im sure some will say just another revenue spinner from motorists. 

I have spoken to the ANPR guy at a local force about this. He initially decided to flag up cars without tax, mot & insurance. Screen in the control room was a blur, so that got filtered out! They aren't really about catching motorists, or profiting from them, but those who use vehicles in the process of carrying out much more serious crime, hence he is very keen to keep the public in support.

Distributing NIPs by the dozen would undermine that support. Or so I was told, anyway. I'm sure somewhere, some desk jockey is thinking that, rather than solve crimes that cause the public real misery, they could sell the data to insurance companies or issue a bucket load of SP30s, though.

They'd have to get through this guy first, and I don't rate their chances.

[Kevin Wood]

Thurrock has a full ANPR setup as well, along with signs on all entry points to the area stating so.

Yep, Southend is the same, along with soon or is now Basildon.

Oh, the shame!... If someone had a record of me visiting Basildon.

[pscocoa]

Thurrock has a full ANPR setup as well, along with signs on all entry points to the area stating so.

Yep, as do most motorway services. Popular places tor associates to meet and exchange dodgy material and the proceeds thereof.

Tend to agree with you on the crime side TBH Kevin, but Im sure some will say just another revenue spinner from motorists. 

I have spoken to the ANPR guy at a local force about this. He initially decided to flag up cars without tax, mot & insurance. Screen in the control room was a blur, so that got filtered out! They aren't really about catching motorists, or profiting from them, but those who use vehicles in the process of carrying out much more serious crime, hence he is very keen to keep the public in support.

Distributing NIPs by the dozen would undermine that support. Or so I was told, anyway. I'm sure somewhere, some desk jockey is thinking that, rather than solve crimes that cause the public real misery, they could sell the data to insurance companies or issue a bucket load of SP30s, though.

They'd have to get through this guy first, and I don't rate their chances.

So we might see one at High Wycombe meet then?

[Crazycarzowner]

There are loads of em dotted about, static ones over the M62, M6, M56, M53. We also have mobile vans that carry it when out on operations and a couple of the newer BMW's are having it fitted. If I (can) sit for an hour or so with it on the amount of uninsured / taxed vehicles going through is amazing. Not surprising that insurers quote 1 out of 3 cars are not insured  Could keep our recovery agents very very busy!

As far as I'm aware (on the sets I've used) ANPR only captures reg. plate data not speed so we wouldn't be sending any SP**'s out Kev.

I am all for targeting non-insured drivers, I pay a hefty premium for the necessity to drive, why shouldn't everyone else pay? Been to many a job where there's been an accident of some sort & 1 driver has either legged it or doesn't have insurance. Really annoys me  Trouble is when they go before the courts (as one of mine did last week) for no license or insurance, he got a £195 fine, and 6 points!!!!! On a license he hasn't got 

Wonder why I bother sometimes

[05omegav6]

Thurrock has a full ANPR setup as well, along with signs on all entry points to the area stating so.

Yep, Southend is the same, along with soon or is now Basildon.

Oh, the shame!... If someone had a record of me visiting BasildonRomford.

So we might see one at High Wycombe meet then?

[Andy B]

There are loads of em dotted about, static ones over the M62, M6, M56, M53. We also have mobile vans that carry it when out on operations and a couple of the newer BMW's are having it fitted. If I (can) sit for an hour or so with it on the amount of uninsured / taxed vehicles going through is amazing. Not surprising that insurers quote 1 out of 3 cars are not insured  Could keep our recovery agents very very busy!

As far as I'm aware (on the sets I've used) ANPR only captures reg. plate data not speed so we wouldn't be sending any SP**'s out Kev.

I am all for targeting non-insured drivers, I pay a hefty premium for the necessity to drive, why shouldn't everyone else pay? Been to many a job where there's been an accident of some sort & 1 driver has either legged it or doesn't have insurance. Really annoys me  Trouble is when they go before the courts (as one of mine did last week) for no license or insurance, he got a £195 fine, and 6 points!!!!! On a license he hasn't got 

Wonder why I bother sometimes

I have to agree .............



apart from we spell licence with a C     

[RobG]

There are loads of em dotted about, static ones over the M62, M6, M56, M53. We also have mobile vans that carry it when out on operations and a couple of the newer BMW's are having it fitted. If I (can) sit for an hour or so with it on the amount of uninsured / taxed vehicles going through is amazing. Not surprising that insurers quote 1 out of 3 cars are not insured  Could keep our recovery agents very very busy!

As far as I'm aware (on the sets I've used) ANPR only captures reg. plate data not speed so we wouldn't be sending any SP**'s out Kev.

I am all for targeting non-insured drivers, I pay a hefty premium for the necessity to drive, why shouldn't everyone else pay? Been to many a job where there's been an accident of some sort & 1 driver has either legged it or doesn't have insurance. Really annoys me  Trouble is when they go before the courts (as one of mine did last week) for no license or insurance, he got a £195 fine, and 6 points!!!!! On a license he hasn't got 

Wonder why I bother sometimes

I have to agree .............



apart from we spell licence with a C      

Here we go again

[Andy B]

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Here we go again

If you want to write/speak in American you're welcome to do so!!!!       

[Crazycarzowner]

I did!! Bloody auto-correct!!!! 

[05omegav6]

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Here we go again

If you want to write/speak in American you're welcome to do so!!!!       

Why bother pulling people up on it then