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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: davieboy0312 on 20 June 2015, 20:56:05

Title: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 20 June 2015, 20:56:05
Hi guys. Firstly thanks to al advice on finding what plugs go where on my engine after losing the list I made to help put it all back together again. But I have 3 plugs I cant find info about

1- 2 pin plug. Red with blue track/ brown with black track
2- 2 pin plug. Blue with red track/ brown with green track
3- 2 pin red plug. Red with blue track/ brown with red track

Thanks guys I am stumped here
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 June 2015, 22:37:06
Approximately where are the plugs :-\
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 20 June 2015, 22:48:57
if I was to hazard a guess al I would think roughly drivers side middle to rear. one of the plugs is red in colour
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 June 2015, 23:04:01
Without looking... And having never had a 3.0, I would suggest them being...

Oil level sensor loom
Ecu coolant temp
Purge valve

The last two being possible to swap with no ill effects until you realise and swap them back... At this point you realise that he Ecu sensor is cooked :-X
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 20 June 2015, 23:10:12
oil level sensor is on a separate loom already got that one sorted. purge valve where does that live? is the coolant temp live on the coolant bridge? next to the other coolant sensor with the one wire on it? found that one too :y
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 20 June 2015, 23:33:31
Here is the purge valve

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/Andygun89/DSCF24071_zpscok9ohmo.jpg)
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 20 June 2015, 23:41:34
that's definitely a red plug andy you wouldn't happen to have a pic of the purge valve would you to see if I can find mine? thanks mate 2 left to go!!!
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 21 June 2015, 10:04:02
It is the purge valve you see there, but here's a better picture  :)

Red circle: Purge valve
Orange circle: Coolant temp for the tacho
Yellow circle: Coolant temp for the ECU

These three connectors exit on the same location on the wiring loom

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/Andygun89/DSCF23721_zps4namtkxu.jpg)
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 10:07:11
thanks mate now gotta find what I done with the purge valve.

do you think the other ones could be the secondary water pump? and the bonnet alarm thing?
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 21 June 2015, 10:10:05
I don't know where the rest are located, but if this is engine loom only, then no.
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 10:13:42
yea its only engine loom. totally stumped. cant find them on Haynes manual.
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 21 June 2015, 10:15:36
If you go through the wiring diagram in the back you can  ;)
Are the ones you are missing all at the back of the engine?
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 10:17:51
at a guess I would say in the same kind of area as purge valve/ drivers side
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 21 June 2015, 10:20:34
Do the ones you miss come directly out of the square plastic thing, or the tube longer down? (the three that comes out longer down the tube are all for the ones i pictured)
Can you take a picture?
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 10:23:12
the other ones you have pictured I have found. when the loom was removed the material holding the loom together was ripped and torn and falling apart so hard to tell where they originally came from. but they are the three longest plug wires on the loom. just a tad shorter than the 2 lambda sensor plugs
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 21 June 2015, 10:32:03
There's one down by the lambdas that is reversing light, then there are 3 above that, that are for the two coolant sensors and the purge valve.
Then all the rest should just come out of the square plastic on top (on a manual gearbox loom)
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 10:34:02
will go out and take a pic of the three plugs and post them up soon.  :y
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 10:57:09
Think I may have sorted it. If someone can double check inlet manifold one above coil pack has 2 wires red/blue and brown/green. Other one hopefully is other inlet manifold valve on radiator brown/black and red/blue. Thanks Andy other is purge valve found the bugger in a drawer. Just a blue/red and brown/green to find a home for now
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 11:06:03
Have found what looks like a temp sensor on one of the bagpipes is this one of my missing plugs?
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 June 2015, 11:10:27
Multi ram? Square externally with a half moon cut out and a metal spring clip surrounding 3 sides?

If it's a plastic tang clip with 3/4 wires and an oval plug(iirc) might be maf. Although yours is a different maf to mine  so that might not be helpful.

Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 11:28:34
One looks like a solenoid on the back of the radiator that looks like my brown/black and red blue
One looks like a air temp sensor above maf. With a blue/red and brown/green
Other was the purge valve.

Does someone know if I have the inlet manifolds the right way round? On Haynes there are two inlet manifold solenoids. But don't know which is which
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 21 June 2015, 11:45:40
1 One looks like a solenoid on the back of the radiator that looks like my brown/black and red blue
2 One looks like a air temp sensor above maf. With a blue/red and brown/green
3 Other was the purge valve.

Does someone know if I have the inlet manifolds the right way round? On Haynes there are two inlet manifold solenoids. But don't know which is which

1: fits the colors of the solenoid on the back of the plenum
2: My inlet temp has those colors, what do you mean by that it looks like it?

one solenoid sits on the back of the plenum, and the other on the plastic inlet in front of engine.
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 12:14:49
on Haynes manual there is two solenoids for inlet manifold one with brown/black and red/blue wires. other with brown/green and red/blue but is this one the rear most?

when I took the loom off the engine I coded all the plugs with numbers and made a list on the computer. but I had my drive crash and had to replace it and lost all the lists I had so now I don't know what goes where. the plugs I have left are those three one defo is one of the inlet manifolds other FITS the sensor above MAF. and other red plug your found andy and was the purge valve
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 21 June 2015, 12:40:49
You cant connect the front and rear solenoids the wrong way, unless you lengthen the wire for the rear solenoid (it won't reach the front solenoid.)

oh, that sucks  :-\
If you still wonder, then put up some pics of the plugs and where they hang round the engine
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 21 June 2015, 12:52:06
i hae everything connected just those two pesky inlet manifold solenoids and im sorted now  :y
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 22 June 2015, 18:58:46
What are you wondering about them?
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 22 June 2015, 19:14:26
Wondering if I have the two inlets backwards or not :-[
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 22 June 2015, 19:54:01
Inlets backwards how?
I don't think you can swap them, but I can check the color code on one of mine if that helps  :)
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 22 June 2015, 20:01:31
If you could that would be great mate
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 27 June 2015, 20:05:40
Brown/green and red/blue is the one at the rear of the inlet  :y
Sorry for the late answer
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 June 2015, 20:10:05
At least I got them the right way round mate. Thanks for all your help in identifying them for me :y
Title: Re: only 3 plugs left!!!!
Post by: Andy89 on 03 July 2015, 14:07:45
Thats good!
No problem mate  :)