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[2boxerdogs]

You won't convince me, still think they were & still are rubbish .

[2boxerdogs]

Regarding the price query, the Nissan cost me £9250.00 as I said it was 1 year old ,the Cossack was around the £7000.00 mark, would have possibly got a discount as it was a cash purchase , the dealer/salesman had virtually every make available & as my main concern was reliability he advised against any thing made by Land Rover. No matter how much or how little you pay for a  new or fairly new vehicle you would want to feel safe in it , the Cossack did not give me that feeling ,I just liked the idea of a new vehicle for what seemed a reasonable price, for about £2000.00 more I got a far superior vehicle in the Nissan, I have had several other  4x4s since & currently run a Hyundai Terracan which really is an excellent value for money vehicle.

[Vamps]

Regarding the price query, the Nissan cost me £9250.00 as I said it was 1 year old ,the Cossack was around the £7000.00 mark, would have possibly got a discount as it was a cash purchase , the dealer/salesman had virtually every make available & as my main concern was reliability he advised against any thing made by Land Rover. No matter how much or how little you pay for a  new or fairly new vehicle you would want to feel safe in it , the Cossack did not give me that feeling ,I just liked the idea of a new vehicle for what seemed a reasonable price, for about £2000.00 more I got a far superior vehicle in the Nissan, I have had several other  4x4s since & currently run a Hyundai Terracan which really is an excellent value for money vehicle.

So you downgraded from a Nissan to a Hyundai, a braver man than me, but whatever floats your boat, each to their own, thats why we have a choice... Personally I will stick with the Jeep Grand Cherokee......

[2boxerdogs]

No not a downgrade, certainly nothing to be brave about unless you have experience of a particular vehicle .I would not rubbish the Jeep because I have never driven one, I did look at one or two & then   checked on the reliability index about them which put me off so I purchased a Subaru Forester which I ran for 7or 8 years & was excellent. The Hyundai has also proved to be an excellent choice ,I was considering a Land Cruiser but would have had to have  a model a few years older than the Hyundai the reason I like this is because it is so similar to the Nissan ,which alas is no longer available & when I change this I will purchase another Hyundai  as having just recently seeing & driving their newest 4x4s they are superb.

[Karolis]

Guys, we in the Soviet Union had nothing better in terms of affordable, simple and capable offroader that was meant for the masses (well, there was UAZ-469, but that was a para-military  Willy's Jeep rip-off). Besides, you could (and often had to) mend it on the side of the road (or, more often, a field) with a hammer. It was (and still is) just a no-nonsense workhorse.

[Vamps]

No not a downgrade, certainly nothing to be brave about unless you have experience of a particular vehicle .I would not rubbish the Jeep because I have never driven one, I did look at one or two & then   checked on the reliability index about them which put me off so I purchased a Subaru Forester which I ran for 7or 8 years & was excellent. The Hyundai has also proved to be an excellent choice ,I was considering a Land Cruiser but would have had to have  a model a few years older than the Hyundai the reason I like this is because it is so similar to the Nissan ,which alas is no longer available & when I change this I will purchase another Hyundai  as having just recently seeing & driving their newest 4x4s they are superb.

Sister in Law had on and a terrible experience, may simply have been a bad one to be fair, mind they did go out and buy a Ssanyoung something 4x4 so perhaps that says something in itself......

[Vamps]

Guys, we in the Soviet Union had nothing better in terms of affordable, simple and capable offroader that was meant for the masses (well, there was UAZ-469, but that was a para-military  Willy's Jeep rip-off). Besides, you could (and often had to) mend it on the side of the road (or, more often, a field) with a hammer. It was (and still is) just a no-nonsense workhorse.

Nice post Karolis, a reality check for us perhaps.......

[2boxerdogs]

A colleague at work had a Ssangyoung Musso  4x4 terrific looking vehicle, but had difficulty getting genuine parts for it had to wait ages for brake items, sold it recently & purchased a large Citroen to tow with.   Took a huge loss with the Musso .

[Vamps]

A colleague at work had a Ssangyoung Musso  4x4 terrific looking vehicle, but had difficulty getting genuine parts for it had to wait ages for brake items, sold it recently & purchased a large Citroen to tow with.   Took a huge loss with the Musso .

I have heard that too, but not said anything.....   I think he has the Rexton, if so the Engine and auto Gearbox are from Mercedes so parts for these are OK........

[Nick W]

A colleague at work had a Ssangyoung Musso  4x4 terrific looking vehicle, but had difficulty getting genuine parts for it had to wait ages for brake items, sold it recently & purchased a large Citroen to tow with.   Took a huge loss with the Musso .

I have heard that too, but not said anything.....   I think he has the Rexton, if so the Engine and auto Gearbox are from Mercedes so parts for these are OK........

They're Mercedes in the same way that early Daewoo are Astra/Cavalier; things like cambelts are one tooth extra, and so aren't interchangeable. I'm sure you can figure out how we discovered that! And you think that M/B parts left over from the early to mid nineties is a good thing?

[Vamps]

A colleague at work had a Ssangyoung Musso  4x4 terrific looking vehicle, but had difficulty getting genuine parts for it had to wait ages for brake items, sold it recently & purchased a large Citroen to tow with.   Took a huge loss with the Musso .

I have heard that too, but not said anything.....   I think he has the Rexton, if so the Engine and auto Gearbox are from Mercedes so parts for these are OK........

They're Mercedes in the same way that early Daewoo are Astra/Cavalier; things like cambelts are one tooth extra, and so aren't interchangeable. I'm sure you can figure out how we discovered that! And you think that M/B parts left over from the early to mid nineties is a good thing?

That's interesting........ Just got me wondering about my Jeep, tis a 2.7 CRDI Turbo mated to an auto Gearbox, also Mercedes, my local dealer is Mercedes and Chrysler and the suggestion was they were the same, ie got a part from Merc stock as Chrysler did not have......

[2boxerdogs]

Having had Mercs from the late eighties & early nineties ,that was probably when build & parts quality were at their best.About 18 months ago I sold my 1990 190e all original no rust at all, & I could go to my local dealer & obtain all service parts off the shelf ,anything they did not have they would get in 24 hours & once they even delivered a new wiper blade to my house FOC,  out of all car manufacturers they probably keep parts in stock for the longest.

[acope]

A colleague at work had a Ssangyoung Musso  4x4 terrific looking vehicle, but had difficulty getting genuine parts for it had to wait ages for brake items, sold it recently & purchased a large Citroen to tow with.   Took a huge loss with the Musso .

I have heard that too, but not said anything.....   I think he has the Rexton, if so the Engine and auto Gearbox are from Mercedes so parts for these are OK........

Dont knock the Ssangyong, admittedly the 2.7td has had its share of problems,which are mainly electrical based, but the 2,9 Rexton, which is basically a musso with a new suit on is a very capable vehicle..merc engines which run for ever, and can run on vegetable oil which is about 50-60p cheaper than pump prices.
The Ssangyong owners club ( of which I am a mod) has a brilliant set of knowledgeable members (similar to the guys on here) and an extremely good list of parts suppliers for both new and 2nd hand parts.

[2boxerdogs]

I have been told that the 2.9 in my Terracan is also a Mercedes diesel engine , performs well & good mpg .

[acope]

I have been told that the 2.9 in my Terracan is also a Mercedes diesel engine , performs well & good mpg .

Tilbo
Is it the 5 cylinder engine ?, has it got a Bosch pump ?, if so you can run it on veggie oil, preferably the new stuff, unless its been very well filtered.