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Is my built-in phone legal?
« on: 04 March 2007, 15:12:56 »

I expect that no one knows for sure, but here goes . . .

I have a mini-facelift Elite with a factory phone, the kind you put a SIM card in.  However, it sounds like this might not be legal under the new rules.  Apparently, the only sure way to be legal is to not move your hands from the wheel to use the phone.  Maybe I just haven't figured out how to answer the phone with the steering wheel controls (I can select the phone but it doesn't answer)?  That, or the phone may not be legal if you have to use the controls on the radio?  Remember, it's illegal to fiddle with the radio now.   >:(
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #1 on: 04 March 2007, 15:18:16 »

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.......Remember, it's illegal to fiddle with the radio now.   >:(

As far as I am aware, the use of the factory fit 'phone is fine and legal.  Its the use of a hand held mobile device thats not.

As to the quote above, where did that come from?  If this is enforceable (which I do not think it is...) then does that also go for the gearshift, the heater, the 'leccy windows  and your packet of werthers??    :-?
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #2 on: 04 March 2007, 15:21:42 »

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.......Remember, it's illegal to fiddle with the radio now.   >:(

As far as I am aware, the use of the factory fit 'phone is fine and legal.  Its the use of a hand held mobile device thats not.

As to the quote above, where did that come from?  If this is enforceable (which I do not think it is...) then does that also go for the gearshift, the heater, the 'leccy windows  and your packet of werthers??    :-?
Maybe it was only proposed?  I heard them talking about it on the radio this week along with the phone issue.  They had some cop on and he said that even cradles are illegal if you have to take your hand off of the wheel to answer the phone?  He said it was a big grey area that will probably end up being tested in court.
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #3 on: 04 March 2007, 15:22:03 »

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and your packet of werthers??    :-?
Hillper is 'dangle berries'ed then ;D
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #4 on: 04 March 2007, 15:22:12 »

No its not legal so you should pull it all out and sell it to me :D.

If it illegal to move your hands from the wheel to operate the stereo how do you change the cassette, open windows, work the sunvisors and is it illegal to smoke in the car now?
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #5 on: 04 March 2007, 15:22:47 »

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I expect that no one knows for sure, but here goes . . .

I have a mini-facelift Elite with a factory phone, the kind you put a SIM card in.  However, it sounds like this might not be legal under the new rules.  Apparently, the only sure way to be legal is to not move your hands from the wheel to use the phone.  Maybe I just haven't figured out how to answer the phone with the steering wheel controls (I can select the phone but it doesn't answer)?  That, or the phone may not be legal if you have to use the controls on the radio?  Remember, it's illegal to fiddle with the radio now.   >:(
You answer the phone from the steering wheel using the bottom button on the left hand buttons. There's times though when I don't seem to be able to 'hang up' with out pressing the red phone symbol. Completely legal as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #6 on: 04 March 2007, 15:24:51 »

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is it illegal to smoke in the car now?
Probably, it is everywhere else.
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #7 on: 04 March 2007, 15:27:11 »

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is it illegal to smoke in the car now?
Probably, it is everywhere else.
If it is a company car, taxi, etc. it is illegal even if no one else in car at the time, or so I have heard.
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #8 on: 04 March 2007, 15:29:23 »

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No its not legal so you should pull it all out and sell it to me :D.

If it illegal to move your hands from the wheel to operate the stereo how do you change the cassette, open windows, work the sunvisors and is it illegal to smoke in the car now?
I guess the question is academic, since it only matters if you are speeding through a camera at the time.  All this talk about making phones illegal, but the only things that are enforced around here are speeding and road tax.  ::)
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #9 on: 04 March 2007, 15:29:40 »

I'm not a smoker, so rather selfishly don't care.  However, I think its the thin end of the wedge. Next they will ban drinking in pubs.
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #10 on: 04 March 2007, 15:32:40 »

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how do you change the cassette,

Do what ::)
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #11 on: 04 March 2007, 15:48:29 »

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how do you change the cassette,

Do what ::)
Yeah you know, how do I change my Earth Wind and Fire cassette for my Shalamar cassette when im driving:D
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« Reply #12 on: 04 March 2007, 15:52:20 »

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how do you change the cassette,

Do what ::)
Yeah you know, how do I change my Earth Wind and Fire cassette for my Shalamar cassette when im driving:D

I think the original idea of having 8 whole tracks on one tape was bestest.....   ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 04 March 2007, 16:07:42 »

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Do what ::)
Yeah you know, how do I change my Earth Wind and Fire cassette for my Shalamar cassette when im driving:D

I think the original idea of having 8 whole tracks on one tape was bestest.....   ;D
My dad used to drive us mad with his 8 track he had in and old Alfa. He used to play Peters and Lee all the time :o. No wonder im not normal ;D
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Re: Is my built-in phone legal?
« Reply #14 on: 04 March 2007, 16:47:58 »

i have a fitted mobile kit in my car, it doesnt cut the radio and i have to push a button on it to answer -so its ok. what if your screen suddenly misted up would you get knicked for pressing a demister button etc, id like to see that in court- why did you take your hand off of the steering wheel -answer i was doing 70 down the motorway and had to do it to avoid a 25 car pile up- enough said !!!!
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