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Author Topic: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?  (Read 6220 times)

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So, I'm starting a new job in 2016 which will unfortunately mean that the omega will be retired from executive chauffeuring duties. I am planning to stave off the change for a few months but ultimately something new has to come along. My budget is pretty healthy as I'll be borrowing to fund it and would like to treat myself - I've never run a car that's less than about 10 years old before.

My Criteria:
1. Must be big (5-series ish big) - I'll be doing about 20k per year and I'm a fat barsteward big chap (6'1" and 20 stone).
2. Must be comfortable - see above
3. Must be 4-5 years old or less - I'm planning on doing the job 3yrs ish and the car scheme stipulates that a car must be less than 8yrs old, I'd consider a private plate to mask the age to push it for a while if I had to.
4. Must be a 4 seater - kids (2) are in the plan and SWMBO isn't going to give the green light to a sporty 2 seater number.

Where things get interesting is that the company operates HMRC's Advisory Fuel Rate Policy, meaning that the amount I get paid per mile varies according to the fuel I use and the cc of the car.

    CC        Petrol (p/mile)        Diesel (p/mile)   
    <1400        11        9   
    14-2000        14        11   
    >2000        21        13   

So, diesels actually fair really badly under this scheme, for example, a 520d auto doing 46mpg actually costs me 1.5p a mile in fuel, whereas a 535i doing 31 mpg on the same route pays 5.5p per mile. This example would translate to nearly £1,500 per year difference running the big Gas guzzler.

The point of all of this is I would like some left-field suggestions on cars I might not have considered as all my thinking up to today has been geared around looking at diesels.

So far I am struggling to think of anything much better than this.
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #1 on: 13 October 2015, 16:07:44 »

Go 7 series/S class if you want to do the job properly...

S350 would be my preference for running costs/passenger comfort... if you need load space then an E class estate but you'll struggle to find a petrol one :-\
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #2 on: 13 October 2015, 16:09:49 »

Cue dozens of pointless answers. You know what you want/need/like.
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #4 on: 13 October 2015, 16:19:04 »

Cue dozens of pointless answers. You know what you want/need/like.

Very true, however, that doesn't mean I've thought of everything that's out there - a CLS for instance is worth a look and one I hadn't thought of.

Harris S or a 7 series is interesting, sadly I've been in too many German taxis to consider an E-class, just brings to mind cheesy 80's rock and staring at the back of a blonde mullet ;).
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #5 on: 13 October 2015, 16:20:16 »

Cue dozens of pointless answers. You know what you want/need/like.

Very true, however, that doesn't mean I've thought of everything that's out there - a CLS for instance is worth a look and one I hadn't thought of.

Harris S or a 7 series is interesting, sadly I've been in too many German taxis to consider an E-class, just brings to mind cheesy 80's rock and staring at the back of a blonde mullet ;).

I prefer the older shape to the latest ones, but the later ones come with 250 CDI.

They are very frugal and still have quite a rapid pace  :y
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #6 on: 13 October 2015, 16:23:40 »

 :o

Get a Micra. If they moan about you turning up at clients in that, tell them "well, about your fuel rate policy....".
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #7 on: 13 October 2015, 17:44:23 »

Thinking so left field that you could become a labour leader...

A fully optioned Tesla P85S Model S is just over a grand a month to buy with sod all deposit*, full running costs are £1695 pm including really expensive electricity, insurance, servicing (such as it is), tyres and of course the car. About £100 a month more than running an E220 Cdi Estate.
Assumes 60k per year.

Highlights include 100% offset in the first year, free charging for life at all Tesla Supercharger stations, 8 year unlimited mile warranty (car and battery) and not to mention the phenomenal value retention.

* Requires a £2,000 deposit to order it.
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« Reply #8 on: 13 October 2015, 17:45:46 »

60K is a big assumption.
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« Reply #9 on: 13 October 2015, 17:55:00 »

True enough Steve, but lower mileage then means lower running costs... Purchase and insurance costs won't reduce though as the car is being used commercially and vehicle cost is fixed.
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #10 on: 13 October 2015, 17:57:33 »

Just wondering how you'd charge (sorry) your employer for electrickery.  :-\
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #11 on: 13 October 2015, 18:14:37 »

LPG!  :y   Get something that's already converted or buy something and get it converted, then claim the petrol allowance!  ;)  :y

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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #12 on: 13 October 2015, 18:20:17 »

Just wondering how you'd charge (sorry) your employer for electrickery.  :-\

Surely a foreword thinking organisation like HMRC will have pence-per-mile tables for electric cars.. No?
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #13 on: 13 October 2015, 18:21:26 »

Harris, you and I must be on very similar wavelength as I've devoted a considerable amount of time to man-maths'ing a Model S. However there are a few issues which I just can't overcome.

-Per the tesla site, the P85d is £1039pcm over 4yrs but requires £19,074 down payment  8) (bottom of the grey "finance" box - where did you see the no deposit bit?

-a number of my trips are outside of the Tesla's range (Carlisle for example) so supercharging, although free could become a pain.

-STEMO tougher on this, no way to charge mileage to my employer - HMRC doesn't recognise electricity as a "fuel" in the context of AFR, although if I could convince the company t charge the car for me (highly unlikely) there would be no BIK charge for this.

I had contemplated waiting until 2017 for the model 3 though! Buying a crapper in the meantime.
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Re: New job, means new(ish) car, looking for left-field choices?
« Reply #14 on: 13 October 2015, 18:30:40 »

Octavia vRS, petrol, newish?
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