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[Terbs]

Does anyone have any idea roughly what it would cost to respray an Omega roof. Its gone funny around the antenna area. 
Lot of people would say why bother, but I am a perfectionist....

[Nick W]

Does anyone have any idea roughly what it would cost to respray an Omega roof. Its gone funny around the antenna area. 
Lot of people would say why bother, but I am a perfectionist....

You're going to be looking at <£100 of materials and a couple of hours work., assuming it's just the paint that's gone 'funny'

[Rangie]

I haven't had any spray work done for a long while but after hearing what folk seem to be paying I would budget at least £500 for a proper job.

[Terbs]

Glad you said that......I had it in my own mind it probably would be about £500. Based on that, I shall see if I can get a quote. Had you said around a thousand, I would not bother.
TB...if you read this, have you any experience of sprayers in Brackley.

[deviator]

Spraying is a weird one. As there are so many things that could wrong. I couldn't understand the price range when I was looking. When I spoke to mate he enlightened me.

There are 2 pricing schemes, 1 For a trade job and the other for a bloke off the street price. The difference is the bloke off the street price will be approximately double the trade job. They apparently base this on the number of returns that come back from each and as such they price the bloke off the street as if they are going to have to do the job twice, due to higher expectations.

[ronnyd]

Spraying is a weird one. As there are so many things that could wrong. I couldn't understand the price range when I was looking. When I spoke to mate he enlightened me.

There are 2 pricing schemes, 1 For a trade job and the other for a bloke off the street price. The difference is the bloke off the street price will be approximately double the trade job. They apparently base this on the number of returns that come back from each and as such they price the bloke off the street as if they are going to have to do the job twice, due to higher expectations.

So, if you buy a car from a dealer that's had some paint done you are getting a substandard job. In these days of folk getting cars click & collect that's  not so good. Can understand in normal times,  you can walk around the car and make your choice, but awkward now.

[dave the builder]

Could well be worth getting someone like cpc ,(cosmetic paint care) smart repair,
 or another mobile service to do a localised repair (like they do with bumper scuffs ,alloy wheels ,stone chips etc 
BEFORE spending £500 getting the roof done,
 there are some very skilled smart repair people out there
about £80- £100 

[Nick W]

There are 2 pricing schemes, 1 For a trade job and the other for a bloke off the street price. The difference is the bloke off the street price will be approximately double the trade job. They apparently base this on the number of returns that come back from each and as such they price the bloke off the street as if they are going to have to do the job twice, due to higher expectations.

The trade jobs tend to be more frequent, so are priced for turnover with a small profit.
Walk-ins can't be relied on, so are priced higher to for a bigger profit margin.


Lots of industries do this; regularly buying thousands of items from a trade supplier gets a very different unit price to someone who occasionally buys half a box full.

[Andy B]

Depends where you go. I took my ML to a body shop where he replaced the lower chrome bit of the bumper (best part of £500 on its own) & painted half the coloured bit .... £1100 but he knew an insurance company was paying.

My daughter took her Yaris to another body shop 100yds away run by a couple of Polish lads. She had both corners of the rear bumper painted (car park damage) and virtually one side of the car sprayed due to someone with a key. It all came to £600. I could find fault in the Yaris paint job .... I found a run at the front .... but on the whole, it wasn't a bad job for the money.

My favourite painter died! 

[ronnyd]

Depends where you go. I took my ML to a body shop where he replaced the lower chrome bit of the bumper (best part of £500 on its own) & painted half the coloured bit .... £1100 but he knew an insurance company was paying.

My daughter took her Yaris to another body shop 100yds away run by a couple of Polish lads. She had both corners of the rear bumper painted (car park damage) and virtually one side of the car sprayed due to someone with a key. It all came to £600. I could find fault in the Yaris paint job .... I found a run at the front .... but on the whole, it wasn't a bad job for the money.

My favourite painter died! 

Why are people so inconsiderate! 

[Andy B]

Depends where you go. I took my ML to a body shop where he replaced the lower chrome bit of the bumper (best part of £500 on its own) & painted half the coloured bit .... £1100 but he knew an insurance company was paying.

My daughter took her Yaris to another body shop 100yds away run by a couple of Polish lads. She had both corners of the rear bumper painted (car park damage) and virtually one side of the car sprayed due to someone with a key. It all came to £600. I could find fault in the Yaris paint job .... I found a run at the front .... but on the whole, it wasn't a bad job for the money.

My favourite painter died! 

Why are people so inconsiderate! 

John worked till silly o'clock 7 days a week .... never took a day off. Not sure how old he was but believe he was only late 60s when he died 

[TheBoy]

Glad you said that......I had it in my own mind it probably would be about £500. Based on that, I shall see if I can get a quote. Had you said around a thousand, I would not bother.
TB...if you read this, have you any experience of sprayers in Brackley.

'Fraid not.  My man was hard to pin down, but has since moved jobs making private jobs more challenging.

[henryd]

Depends where you go. I took my ML to a body shop where he replaced the lower chrome bit of the bumper (best part of £500 on its own) & painted half the coloured bit .... £1100 but he knew an insurance company was paying.

My daughter took her Yaris to another body shop 100yds away run by a couple of Polish lads. She had both corners of the rear bumper painted (car park damage) and virtually one side of the car sprayed due to someone with a key. It all came to £600. I could find fault in the Yaris paint job .... I found a run at the front .... but on the whole, it wasn't a bad job for the money.

My favourite painter died! 

Why are people so inconsiderate! 

John worked till silly o'clock 7 days a week .... never took a day off. Not sure how old he was but believe he was only late 60s when he died 

Working with paint and filller  dust doesnt tend to extend life expectancy,especially old school non mask wearers

[Terbs]

Could well be worth getting someone like cpc ,(cosmetic paint care) smart repair,
 or another mobile service to do a localised repair (like they do with bumper scuffs ,alloy wheels ,stone chips etc 
BEFORE spending £500 getting the roof done,
 there are some very skilled smart repair people out there
about £80- £100 

That thought crossed my mind, Dave. However, being as the roof takes all the weather, I thought it would be almost impossible to blend in. Especially after all these years. If its going to look odd, I would rather go for the full roof 

[Doctor Gollum]

Minimal dismantling too... Unless it has a sunroof. The A pillars can be painted seamlessly down behind the top of the front wings, and the C pillars can be painted seamlessly to the trim piece, so no visible masking edges with a bit of care.

Screens out, side channel trims off (handful of screws),
Rear quarter trims off (unclip) and that's it.

Sunroof meeans headlining out and sunroof cassette out (all straightforward, just more effort.

Or you can bodge it and have lots of edges

If you strip/reassemble most of it yourself, then you will limit the painting costs to the bare minimum. 

[YZ250]

.......
Screens out, side channel trims off (handful of screws),
Rear quarter trims off (unclip) and that's it.

Sunroof meeans headlining out and sunroof cassette out (all straightforward, just more effort).
......

Gotta love this forum .....All very straightforward..... Just pop the screens out ..... like you are whipping out a pair of contact lenses.   

[Nick W]

.......
Screens out, side channel trims off (handful of screws),
Rear quarter trims off (unclip) and that's it.

Sunroof meeans headlining out and sunroof cassette out (all straightforward, just more effort).
......

Gotta love this forum .....All very straightforward..... Just pop the screens out ..... like you are whipping out a pair of contact lenses. 

Turning a £300 tidy-up job for anyone practiced with a spraygun into a specialist job that will inevitably require a new screen and its trims, all of which will add another £1000.


As for the sunroof, why remove it when you can just open it and mask inside the vertical edges?


I do prefer to remove rather than mask, but reality means that certain parts stay in place and bonded in screens are always at the top of that list.


When I did this,





removing and replacing the side glass took less time than masking around it for a good result would have done. Same applies to the back bumper; removing it meant undoing four M6 bolts which is easier and quicker than masking it. And meant I could flick some body colour over the repairs to the rear valence.


The whole car is covered in one sheet of body mask, with the quarter panel and sill cut out and edges taped down, which took about five minutes. The B-pillar is masked - by covering with tape and cutting the raised edges with a scalpel - because I didn't want to replace the stick on black trim. What I should have done with this job, because it included painting the replacement front wing, was strip the mirror, door handle and drop glass trim and paint the door as well.

[Andy B]

.....
 Same applies to the back bumper; removing it meant undoing four M6 bolts which is easier and quicker than masking it.  ...

I wish I could have said the same today for the front bumper of SWMBO's C3 ... in theory, there are 4 self tappers across the front on the 'slam panel' and a couple of M6s under the front valance. The ball ache was undoing wheel arch liners to get to the clip behind the headlights that clip the edges of the bumper to the bottom edge of the wing.

[Doctor Gollum]

You're right of course

It just really grips my shit when people don't take the time to actually mask stuff properly... I mean, if you cba to tape a straight edge, er, straight, then simply don't bother taping it to begin with. Either take the time to mask it properly, or simply pop the trim off and mask where it's hidden...

Rubbing strips and door capping trims being just two examples of lazy arsed bodgery on cheaper jobs. There's simply no excuse for wavy overspray edges on chrome and rubber trim that would have been quicker to remove than mask badly.

[Doctor Gollum]

.....
 Same applies to the back bumper; removing it meant undoing four M6 bolts which is easier and quicker than masking it.  ...

I wish I could have said the same today for the front bumper of SWMBO's C3 ... in theory, there are 4 self tappers across the front on the 'slam panel' and a couple of M6s under the front valance. The ball ache was undoing wheel arch liners to get to the clip behind the headlights that clip the edges of the bumper to the bottom edge of the wing.

Still better than failing to mask the panel gap with anything like accuracy... Not to mention the resultant paint flaking etc where they haven't bothered to prep the bits they cba to mask/remove.

[Rangie]

Glad you said that......I had it in my own mind it probably would be about £500. Based on that, I shall see if I can get a quote. Had you said around a thousand, I would not bother.
TB...if you read this, have you any experience of sprayers in Brackley.

.   

I know good work is now expensive because my mate is having his MGB GT V8 repainted at the moment ,the car is thoroughly stripped at present ( I've seen the pics) he has placed a deposit of  £5,000 for work to commence, he has used the same specialist in  Cambridgeshire ( Malcolm Beer) for all his MGs for many years.

[YZ250]

.......
Screens out, side channel trims off (handful of screws),
Rear quarter trims off (unclip) and that's it.

Sunroof meeans headlining out and sunroof cassette out (all straightforward, just more effort).
......

Gotta love this forum .....All very straightforward..... Just pop the screens out ..... like you are whipping out a pair of contact lenses. 

Turning a £300 tidy-up job for anyone practiced with a spraygun into a specialist job that will inevitably require a new screen and its trims, all of which will add another £1000.
...........

Just to clarify my reply, as not everybody understands my humour/sarcasm, I meant that Al made it sound so matter of fact, which it probably is if you've done it a few times. I wasn't implying to do one or the other as a preference and I do fully understand the reasoning of Nicks reply. 

[YZ250]

......
TB...if you read this, have you any experience of sprayers in Brackley.

'Fraid not. ....

This surprises me, I thought you were the man for spraying things around Brackley, .............. like gas cylinders, garage doors etc.   

[cam.in.head]

When my roof was done 5 years ago the front screen rubber was just lifted and the sunroof opened. That was a £500 job but did only last 5 years until the little dots started appearing again.
This time they removed the screen to do a better job as a small line or rust had gone under and into the screen aperture. Again sunroof opened and rear pillar trims removed.
This time it was bare metalled but. Also the bonnet,boot and sides above waistline too so cannot compare price wise.

[Doctor Gollum]

When my roof was done 5 years ago the front screen rubber was just lifted and the sunroof opened. That was a £500 job but did only last 5 years until the little dots started appearing again.
This time they removed the screen to do a better job as a small line or rust had gone under and into the screen aperture. Again sunroof opened and rear pillar trims removed.
This time it was bare metalled but. Also the bonnet,boot and sides above waistline too so cannot compare price wise.

QED

[TheBoy]

......
TB...if you read this, have you any experience of sprayers in Brackley.

'Fraid not. ....

This surprises me, I thought you were the man for spraying things around Brackley, .............. like gas cylinders, garage doors etc.   

Thame is within the blast radius, so be mindful what you say Mr YZ

[Terbs]

I haven't got a sunroof. 

[TheBoy]

I haven't got a sunroof. 

One can be arranged. I have a tin opener.

[Doctor Gollum]

I haven't got a sunroof. 

One less thing to remove then 

[deviator]

I haven't got a sunroof. 

One less thing to remove then 

No, he means, he had one last night but now.....

[cam.in.head]

When my roof was done 5 years ago the front screen rubber was just lifted and the sunroof opened. That was a £500 job but did only last 5 years until the little dots started appearing again.
This time they removed the screen to do a better job as a small line or rust had gone under and into the screen aperture. Again sunroof opened and rear pillar trims removed.
This time it was bare metalled but. Also the bonnet,boot and sides above waistline too so cannot compare price wise.

QED

??

[YZ250]

When my roof was done 5 years ago the front screen rubber was just lifted and the sunroof opened. That was a £500 job but did only last 5 years until the little dots started appearing again.
This time they removed the screen to do a better job as a small line or rust had gone under and into the screen aperture. Again sunroof opened and rear pillar trims removed.
This time it was bare metalled but. Also the bonnet,boot and sides above waistline too so cannot compare price wise.

QED

??

Latin abbreviation for Quod Erat Demonstrandum. Roughly translated to 'I rest my case' when their side of a discussion has been proven to be correct. 

[cam.in.head]

none the wiser but thanks for reply anyway !

[Doctor Gollum]

My point being that doing a job right involves time and effort. £500 in your case being not enough to do the job right.