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[Diamond Black Geezer]

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/vz-holden-commodore-2004-2006/69042-vz-suspension-thread.html

like this!!

These sound like the sort of lads that stay up late enough at night wondering what kissing a girl is like, that you should be asking!

[tunnie]

no body kits for the Aussie Omega will fit UK Spec....

[pedroMV6]

Betcha you can't fit Commodore VX headlights to fit a F/L Omega. Actually, I know you can't!
Or a front wing.
Or a roof panel.
Or a front bulkhead.

Yes, I see the same platform - pretty obvious, but then to say that, Carlton 3/Omega A has the same platform as Omega B - and most things won't fit directly, there are alot of differences - including the basic monocoque.
I also bet a Carlton rear parcel shelf won't fit a VP Commodore, a VN Commodore front door won't fit an Omega B....................
The same platform is the carriage at the factory that - with changes - is used for cars that wear a different badge, but each model keeps it's own identity -unless the same car is sold in different countries - Omega A in Europe is Carlton 3 in UK is Chevrolet Omega in South America, and the only real differences are badges and whether right or left hand drive. Specs for electrical equipment differs from country to country, let alone continent to continent.

[Blackie_No1]

Ok, can we not turn this into an argument guys, I do appreciate your help, but lets not get testy about it all.....

[Blackie_No1]

From the commodore site that Black Diamond geezer sent me, this looks like the basic Omega shell with a different front and back end, same door handles and same door mirrors a a facelift omega from what I can see....

[Blackie_No1]

A Commodore Station wagon:







This looks very close to a facelift Omega estate, looks like the exact same doors, door handles side windows etc.. as mine, looks like similar shaped tail lights as mine...

[Blackie_No1]

Another pic of an estate VZ Commodore:  I don't even think they are any wider to be honest.... 

[VXL V6]

Either the car is longer or the rear doors are smaller than our Omega's - Omega rear doors close onto the arch, those ones don't.

Those strips down the roof from the roof bars are where the extra width  is present.

[Blackie_No1]

Didn't spot that about the doors right enough, but I have joined a commodore owners site and will soon be getting answers on measurements.

I know that the exhausts are different as most of thier v6's run a single pipe front the cat back, so zorst systems are out....

Not sure if i am confident with your answer on the strips though.....  from the rear view the car doesnt look any wider...  thier number plate recess is smaller and could be giving the impression of a wider tailgate

[Blackie_No1]

Holden VZ Commodore 
Manufacturer Holden
Parent company General Motors
Also called Chevrolet Lumina
Production August 2004–September 2007
Assembly Elizabeth, South Australia, Australia
Predecessor Holden VY Commodore
Successor Holden VE Commodore
Class Full-size
Body style(s) 4-door sedan
4-door station wagon
Layout FR layout
Platform GM V platform
Engine(s) V6
3.6 L 172 kW: Alloytec
3.6 L 175 kW: Alloytec
3.6 L 190 kW: Alloytec 190
V8
5.7 L 235 kW: Gen III LS1
5.7 L 250 kW: High Output LS1
6.0 L 260 kW: Gen IV L76
 
Transmission(s) 6-speed Manual
Aisin D173 (V6 only)
Tremec T56 (V8 only)
4-speed Automatic
GM 4L60
GM 4L65-E
5-speed Automatic
GM 5L40-E (190 kW V6 only)
 
Wheelbase 2789–2939 mm
Length 4876–5033 mm
Width 1842–1847 mm
Height 1440–1527 mm
Curb weight 1569–1654 kg
Fuel capacity 91 RON/75 L
Related Holden VZ Adventra
Holden VZ Crewman
Holden VZ Monaro
Holden VZ One Tonner
Holden VZ Ute
Holden WL Caprice
Holden WL Statesman


Omega B 
Manufacturer Adam Opel AG
Parent company GM
Also called Vauxhall Omega
Cadillac Catera
Production 1994–1999
Assembly Germany
Predecessor Opel Omega A
Successor Opel Omega B FL
Class Full-size luxury car
Body style(s) saloon/sedan
estate
Layout FR layout
Engine(s) Petrol
Straight-4
2.0i L X20SE
2.0i L X20XEV
V6
2.5i L X25XE
3.0i L X30XE
Diesel
Straight-4
2.0 L DTI X20DTH
Straight-6
2.5 L TD 25TD
2.5 L TD X25TD
 
Transmission(s) 4-speed automatic
5-speed manual
Wheelbase 2,730 mm (107.5 in)
Length 4,790 mm (188.6 in),
4,820 mm (189.8 in) (estate)
Width 1,785 mm (70.3 in)
Height 1,455 mm (57.3 in),
1,500 mm (59.1 in) (estate
Kerb weight 1,400 kg (3,086 lb)


Seems there are slight differences. . . . .

[Blackie_No1]

From wikipedia:

GM V platform (RWD)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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For the front-wheel drive automobile platform of the same name, see GM V platform (FWD).
 
Opel Commodore B (1972–1977)The V platform is a rear-wheel drive automobile platform that underpinned various General Motors (GM) vehicles from 1967 through to its final discontinuation in 2007. The V platform was developed in the 1960s by the European division of GM, Opel, however, it was not without significant revision over its lifetime. The platform's phase-out began when European production ended during 2003, while the Australian variants, produced by Holden continued until 2007, after their final replacement by Zeta-derived models. The first of these Zeta cars came in 2006, with the remaining changing over in 2007. V-cars are identified by the "V" fourth character in their Vehicle Identification Number. Although completely unrelated, the "V platform" designation was also used for a series of North American front-wheel drive personal luxury coupes (see: GM V platform (FWD)).

[edit] Applications
 
Opel Rekord E (1982–1986)
Holden Commodore VP (1991–1992)
Opel Omega B (1999–2003)
Holden Calais VX (2000–2001)Daewoo Prince
1991–1997: Daewoo Prince.
Holden Commodore
1978–1988: Holden Commodore, Holden Calais, Holden Royale (VB, VC, VH, VK, VL).

1988–1997: Holden Commodore, Holden Berlina, Holden Calais, Holden Royale (VN/VG, VP, VR, VS).

1997–2007: Holden Commodore, Holden Berlina, Holden Calais, Chevrolet Lumina, Chevrolet Omega (VT, VX, VY, VZ).
Holden Monaro
2001–2005: Holden Monaro, Pontiac GTO, Vauxhall Monaro, Chevrolet Lumina SS (V2, VZ).
Holden Statesman
1990–1999: Holden Statesman, Holden Caprice (VQ, VR, VS).
1999–2006: Holden Statesman, Holden Caprice, Buick Royaum, Chevrolet Caprice (WH, WK, WL).
Holden Ute
2000–2007: Holden Ute, Chevrolet Lumina Ute (VU, VY, VZ).
Opel Commodore
1967–1971: Opel Commodore A, Chevrolet Commodore.
1972–1977: Opel Commodore B, Opel Ranger, Chevrolet Commodore, Chevrolet Iran.
1977–1982: Opel Commodore C, Vauxhall Viceroy, Chevrolet Commodore, Daewoo Royale.
Opel Monza
1978–1986: Opel Monza A, Vauxhall Royale Coupe.
Opel Omega
1986–1994: Opel Omega A, Vauxhall Carlton Mark II, Chevrolet Omega A (1992–1999), Lotus Carlton, Lotus Omega.
1994–2003: Opel Omega B, Vauxhall Omega B, Cadillac Catera.
Opel Rekord
1967–1971: Opel Rekord C, Opel Ranger, Chevrolet Comodoro, Chevrolet Opala.
1972–1977: Opel Rekord D, Opel Ranger.
1977–1986: Opel Rekord E, Vauxhall Carlton Mark I.
Opel Senator
1978–1987: Opel Senator A, Chevrolet Senator, Vauxhall Royale.
1987–1994: Opel Senator B, Vauxhall Senator

[pedroMV6]

Ok, can we not turn this into an argument guys, I do appreciate your help, but lets not get testy about it all.....

I wasn't getting testy, dude - just trying to point out that there are quite a few differences, is all.
A few mm here, a few mm there - as they say on Tesco ads - every little helps.
 

[tunnie]

how many times do i have to say it, no, thats no, thats [size=20]no[/size] body kits for the Holden Commodore will fit the Omega

[candyman]

It,s mainly mechanical parts that I am after, such as, brakes, suspension, exhaust manifolds(or headers as they call them) and systems but with the different wdith, I am assuming that the floor plan is different?  Also I am unable to find a 3.0l listing in the Commodore range...?

he never mentioned bodykits

[pedroMV6]

how many times do i have to say it, no, thats no, thats [size=20]no[/size] body kits for the Holden Commodore will fit the Omega

Calm down dear!