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[Viral_Jim]

As a taxpayer, and believer in small state and self reliance, I would still rather see subsidised taxis

Surely small state self reliance and subsidized private hire cars don't sit together? AFAIK the only places that offer such things are the lefty liberal Scandinavian countries.

Getting tour hand in your own pocket for your own privately owned self driving car is far more self reliant.

[Varche]

When I say signal I mean over the ether via this 5g.  Something along the lines of “ I see you are waiting to come out. OK I will decrease speed to allow a big enough event window, GO” at thesame time it would advise following vehicles so they didnt all panic brake .  It would work pretty well if there were no bugs in the software!

The Highway code would need  rewriting anyway to suit the bulk of vehicles being autonomous.

[Nick W]

Surely small state self reliance and subsidized private hire cars don't sit together? AFAIK the only places that offer such things are the lefty liberal Scandinavian countries.

Getting tour hand in your own pocket for your own privately owned self driving car is far more self reliant.

owning the car is the cheap, affordable part of 'private' transport. If it was done properly, without the massive state subsidies we currently rely on, you would be charged at cost for every metre you travel. Then we would all be insisting on improvements to local public transport; cheaper taxis and smaller buses on more flexible routes are the most efficient and cost-effective way of doing this.


The current obsession with 'better' transport hides the real problem: travel became so ubiquitous because it was briefly cheap, easy and convenient for almost everybody. Those times are over, we're just too stubborn to admit it.

[TheBoy]

The question I would ask is how does an autonomous car deal with those situations that are difficult?

I assume you are referring to "difficult" as a moral dilemma?  As for current mainstream processors in computers, there is no such thing as "difficult".

The same moral dilemmas that a driver has to deal with in an emergency, knowing they are in a no win situation, has to be dealt with at the design stage.  And there lay problem number 1, not every conceivable scenario could ever be predicted, and the current mobile-ish processing power available wouldn't be able to process it - problem number 2.

Problem number 3 is that no code of even minimal complexity is bug free.

Problem no 4 is that, as cars become connected, even if security is designed in (and traditionally it hasn't been in automotive), Problem No 3 exists, and will be exploited by those wishing to raise the profile of their own beliefs or simply to make large amounts of money.

[TheBoy]

travel became so ubiquitous because it was briefly cheap, easy and convenient for almost everybody. Those times are over, we're just too stubborn to admit it.

Only the world changed at the same time, making travel necessary.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Remember the predictions of 'the future' from days gone by, where everyone lives in identical high rise flats, where everyone wears identical silver boiler suit type garb and gets carted around in autonomous vehicles, some on the ground, some in the air? 

Well I think that that Orwellian type future is closer than we think and they will use the 'climate emergency' to achieve it. 

The wealthy elites will carry on of course, business as usual. 

Which reminds me, I must go out and buy that full fat Range Rover while I still can!   

[Rangie]

Remember the predictions of 'the future' from days gone by, where everyone lives in identical high rise flats, where everyone wears identical silver boiler suit type garb and gets carted around in autonomous vehicles, some on the ground, some in the air? 

Well I think that that Orwellian type future is closer than we think and they will use the 'climate emergency' to achieve it. 

The wealthy elites will carry on of course, business as usual. 

Which reminds me, I must go out and buy that full fat Range Rover while I still can!   

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Do it, believe me you won't regret it..😀

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Remember the predictions of 'the future' from days gone by, where everyone lives in identical high rise flats, where everyone wears identical silver boiler suit type garb and gets carted around in autonomous vehicles, some on the ground, some in the air? 

Well I think that that Orwellian type future is closer than we think and they will use the 'climate emergency' to achieve it. 

The wealthy elites will carry on of course, business as usual. 

Which reminds me, I must go out and buy that full fat Range Rover while I still can!   

What is the definition of a 'full fat ' Range Rover.

5.0 Supercharged petrol V8 or stump pulling V8 derv?

Perhaps it is either, or both.

[Rangie]

Remember the predictions of 'the future' from days gone by, where everyone lives in identical high rise flats, where everyone wears identical silver boiler suit type garb and gets carted around in autonomous vehicles, some on the ground, some in the air? 

Well I think that that Orwellian type future is closer than we think and they will use the 'climate emergency' to achieve it. 

The wealthy elites will carry on of course, business as usual. 

Which reminds me, I must go out and buy that full fat Range Rover while I still can!   

What is the definition of a 'full fat ' Range Rover.

5.0 Supercharged petrol V8 or stump pulling V8 derv?

Perhaps it is either, or both.

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Purely my opinion I would say that 5.0 supercharged petrol if you can handle the 15mpg, beyond my finances but my 3.6 TDV8 twin turbo is more than adequate for me & can return 30 mpg on a run
I have driven the 5.0 and it is a superb vehicle.

[Doctor Gollum]

Remember the predictions of 'the future' from days gone by, where everyone lives in identical high rise flats, where everyone wears identical silver boiler suit type garb and gets carted around in autonomous vehicles, some on the ground, some in the air? 

Well I think that that Orwellian type future is closer than we think and they will use the 'climate emergency' to achieve it. 

The wealthy elites will carry on of course, business as usual. 

Which reminds me, I must go out and buy that full fat Range Rover while I still can!   

What is the definition of a 'full fat ' Range Rover.

5.0 Supercharged petrol V8 or stump pulling V8 derv?

Perhaps it is either, or both.

Not the Range Rooney Sport

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

As a taxpayer, and believer in small state and self reliance, I would still rather see subsidised taxis

Surely small state self reliance and subsidized private hire cars don't sit together? AFAIK the only places that offer such things are the lefty liberal Scandinavian countries.

Getting tour hand in your own pocket for your own privately owned self driving car is far more self reliant.

Exactly. Although I believe in small state / self reliance, faced with the choice between the two I would rather see taxis for some groups of people subisdised by the state than everyone forced into autonomous vehicles.

[Nick W]

travel became so ubiquitous because it was briefly cheap, easy and convenient for almost everybody. Those times are over, we're just too stubborn to admit it.

Only the world changed at the same time, making travel necessary.

There is certainly some cause and effect, but if cars had remained rich mens toys, we wouldn't have ended up commuting 50, 60, whatever miles to work each in our own cars, which is a mind boggingly stupid thing to do.


We've ended up with the dog leading the owner, not the other way round

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

travel became so ubiquitous because it was briefly cheap, easy and convenient for almost everybody. Those times are over, we're just too stubborn to admit it.

Only the world changed at the same time, making travel necessary.

There is certainly some cause and effect, but if cars had remained rich mens toys, we wouldn't have ended up commuting 50, 60, whatever miles to work each in our own cars, which is a mind boggingly stupid thing to do.


We've ended up with the dog leading the owner, not the other way round

Good point. Before the 'great unwashed' had access to the motor car the journey to work would be no longer than a brisk walk or cycle ride...... or maybe a short bus or tram journey.

The downside of this would mean that you end up marrying the girl next door, or your sister*

* applicable to people living in the north of England and Wales only.

[BazaJT]

At one time Englands economy was largely agriculture based,then came the industrial revolution where factories etc opened up.In order to have a ready work force mining villages and factory towns sprang up and people moved there from the countryside.Those industries largely died out and work centres moved leaving the work force no option but to commute which meant it was more convenient to own a car/motorcycle than to use whatever public transport was available.

[Nick W]

At one time Englands economy was largely agriculture based,then came the industrial revolution where factories etc opened up.In order to have a ready work force mining villages and factory towns sprang up and people moved there from the countryside.Those industries largely died out and work centres moved leaving the work force no option but to commute which meant it was more convenient to own a car/motorcycle than to use whatever public transport was available.

how does that explain living in one town and driving to, and from, another town 50miles away?
Commuting occurs because it became feasible to do it, first with railways and then cars. Stevenson wasn't inspired to design trains because lots of people wanted to live in Ashford and work in London.