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Title: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 04 February 2013, 19:53:41
Right just had a little knock in the estate   :'(:'(photos later),
Has any body purchased an irmischer copy grille off the bay from a chap in Ireland,if so is the quality any good. And thats just the start of the shopping list
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: Lazydocker on 04 February 2013, 20:04:39
Oh dear... I assume all involved are OK? ???

Everything else is repairable ;)
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Post by: symes on 04 February 2013, 20:06:15
hope you ok mate :y cars easy to fix- :y
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 04 February 2013, 20:18:01
Just me driving home from work and not paying attention to the traffic,and it stopped and i didnt... >:(
All thats hurt is my pride n joy,
 wil need wings,headlights,fans,bonnet,grille.
 Only part i dont have is a bonnet.
 Just got to get ready to fight the insurance company,wouldnt have botherd
phoneing them but the other car was driving by an american serviceman.
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: symes on 04 February 2013, 20:34:17
Just me driving home from work and not paying attention to the traffic,and it stopped and i didnt... >:(
All thats hurt is my pride n joy,
 wil need wings,headlights,fans,bonnet,grille.
 Only part i dont have is a bonnet.
 Just got to get ready to fight the insurance company,wouldnt have botherd
phoneing them but the other car was driving by an american serviceman.
sad for miggy :'( :'( but glad you ok  mate :y :y :y
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: albitz on 04 February 2013, 20:44:26
What colour bonnet ?
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 04 February 2013, 20:47:54
Its that rare silver that they painted 2002 mv6's in :)
Think its 157
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: albitz on 04 February 2013, 21:00:54
Got one in very nice condition,but its 147.Cant tell the difference myself (my car panels are a mixture of 147/157),but its your car,so your call mate. ;)
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 04 February 2013, 21:10:43
Thank you for the offer :),will wait to see what the insurance robbers say,but me thinks i will be repairing myself as the age etc of it they will more than likely write it off,so i will then just refuse the claim and repair it.
 
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: PhilRich on 04 February 2013, 21:38:58
Glad you're OK, but the American Serviceman bit made me blanch a bit, what's the bet he'll have severe whiplash & retrograde amnesia come the morning? ::) ;)
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: dbdb on 04 February 2013, 21:51:15
Has any body purchased an irmischer copy grille off the bay from a chap in Ireland,if so is the quality any good. And thats just the start of the shopping list

got this grill on Amazon last summer good quality http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B002RRU5EA/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B002RRU5EA/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new) price seems to have doubled I only paid £15. Sold my old Vaux one for more.  Ignore the 'out of stock' they order it when you do, was delivered in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: OOMV6 on 04 February 2013, 21:53:22
Just me driving home from work and not paying attention to the traffic,and it stopped and i didnt... >:(
All thats hurt is my pride n joy,
 wil need wings,headlights,fans,bonnet,grille.
 Only part i dont have is a bonnet.
 Just got to get ready to fight the insurance company,wouldnt have botherd
phoneing them but the other car was driving by an american serviceman.

Oh yes you did.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: TheBoy on 04 February 2013, 22:02:17
Just me driving home from work and not paying attention to the traffic,and it stopped and i didnt... >:(
All thats hurt is my pride n joy,
 wil need wings,headlights,fans,bonnet,grille.
 Only part i dont have is a bonnet.
 Just got to get ready to fight the insurance company,wouldnt have botherd
phoneing them but the other car was driving by an american serviceman.

Oh yes you did.  ;) ;)
Eventually...
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 04 February 2013, 22:20:11
as promised two photos of the small sctratch....
(http://[IMG]http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay020_zps3bf1a11a.jpg)(http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay020_zps3bf1a11a.jpg)[/img]
(http://[IMG]http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay019_zpsfa87ed74.jpg)(http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay019_zpsfa87ed74.jpg)
[/img]  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: TheBoy on 04 February 2013, 22:23:20
What state are the slam panels in - that may be more than just replacing a few bits
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Post by: henryd on 04 February 2013, 23:02:16
What state are the slam panels in - that may be more than just replacing a few bits

I was thinking similar,although the lamp still seems to fit the wing well enough.
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Post by: serek on 04 February 2013, 23:09:21
have irmscher style grill here, pop round workshop when you get time  :y :y
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 February 2013, 23:34:42
If you need a slam panel, try Dews at Brighouse. They had a few in stock when I bought mine from them a while ago following a similar conversastion with a lorry :-[

Was less than £30 new old stock :y digging the old one out takes a bit of patience though :-\
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 05 February 2013, 07:22:47
Thanks for all the positive helps,will be having a look propally on Saturday,car still drives with no issues,
The power of OOF, shows with all the positives :)
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 February 2013, 07:33:07
It cost me £700 to repair mine from similar damage, including £300 to get the car collected, slam panel welded in and returned, anothe £200 to paint the front end and £200 for both wings, bonnet, both headlights, radiator and condensor and fans.

If you have banged the bonnet hard enough then the slam panel will be bent :'( not the end of the world though, just need to be thorough in drilling all the spot welds out, 23 per side iirc :y if you already have the wings etc in the right colour, then you are already about £350 up :y
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 05 February 2013, 08:34:36
Ive got most of the parts in stock,just got to wait till saturday to see what other parts i might need,am hoping the slam panel is ok,looks ok from what i could see last night,
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 February 2013, 08:47:38
The bonnet folds up in two places. From pics yours has folded at the first one, about 8"-10" from the grill. (There's a couple of dimples on the side rails of the bonnet structure.)

Trouble is, as the bonnet folds up, it pulls the slam panel back with it :'(

The slam panel itself bends in two places... where the radiator frame is welded to a lip on the chassis leg, and at the outer ends where it meets the inner and outer wings, so might not be immediately obvious

Think its one of these... http://www.carpartsconnexion.com/vauxhall/partdetail.asp?dp=126537&f=Vauxhall&m=OMEGA&y=Any+year&cat=12&  (http://www.carpartsconnexion.com/vauxhall/partdetail.asp?dp=126537&f=Vauxhall&m=OMEGA&y=Any+year&cat=12&)

 :y
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 05 February 2013, 08:55:28
So am taking from the linky that mfl/pfl slam panel same as fl then,
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 February 2013, 09:10:56
Linky wrong ::) Slam panel pn 90563507. Part number based on your reg, £75. Dews don't have one in stock, but as he's practically next door, Andy C is probably your best bet :y

So am taking from the linky that mfl/pfl slam panel same as fl then,
Miss translated, this is the bumper bar, hence pre/mfl only :y

Also found this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-Front-Panel-New-Genuine-9149707-/111001240141?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item19d830824d  (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-Front-Panel-New-Genuine-9149707-/111001240141?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item19d830824d)

Local ish too :y

99% certain that they are the same for all Omega Bs.
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 12 February 2013, 09:49:04
If you're to do summat, best do it right :-[

A few pics of the damage from my conversation with a truck on the M6.

Airbags not deployed, not a scratch on the bumper and only one sidelight bulb not working.

You can see from the two side shots that the bonnet folds up quite neatly, but also pulls the slam panel back in the process. The other pics show how the slam panel folds up where it meets the wings and the chassis legs.

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/HPIM0197_zps3c4b128b.jpg)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/HPIM0185_zpsd24199b0.jpg)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/HPIM0241_zps9c3e505c.jpg)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/HPIM0239_zpsea826329.jpg)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/HPIM0233_zps8d7cfee9.jpg)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/HPIM0238_zps6d2d933c.jpg)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/HPIM0235_zpseee0b118.jpg)

Unfortunately I didn't take any pics of the repair, but basically it was wings off, bumper off, clear all the broken bits back to the bagpipes, drill the spot welds and pull the slam panel off. A bit of tidying around the edges, weld new slam panel in and replace all the broken bits with less broken bits :y
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 12 February 2013, 17:24:10
ouch thats gone back a bit further than mine,by the looks, will be doing mine at the weekend now that ive got the bonnet from mr albitz.
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 21 February 2013, 22:30:19
right heres some photos of the car on the cherry tree jig,if some tree huggers get up set never mind,no trees were harmed doing this. ;D

(http://[IMG]http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay023_zps8dcaeeeb.jpg)(http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay023_zps8dcaeeeb.jpg)[/img]
(http://[IMG]http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay022_zps79837140.jpg)(http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay022_zps79837140.jpg)[/img]

(http://[IMG]http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay024_zpsed410ec3.jpg)(http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae180/biggriffin64/ebay024_zpsed410ec3.jpg)[/img]
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: omega3000 on 21 February 2013, 22:54:50
Quote
no trees were harmed doing this.
;D

The tree will break before the omega  :D :y
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: dbdb on 22 February 2013, 13:26:35
wow did that work?  I've done something similar before but I used steel cable and a tirfor, it worked because of the mechanical advantage.  That was straightening out 12mm steel though.  You could get the mechanical advantage with your tree by using ropes and pulleys or just the very useful truckers hitch.
Title: Re: wont polish out.
Post by: biggriffin on 22 February 2013, 20:58:10
just pulled hand brake on,chocked the wheels,attached two ratchet straps and ratheted them till it looked right. well enough to get the bonnet to shut and both headlights to aim level, in the perfect world a new slam panel would be ideal but time and money.
 new s/h parts used
 1 bonnet courtsey mr albitz  :y
 1 irmesher grill courtsey mr serek  :y
 1 air con condenser,replaced as bottem fell out when removed,-stock
 1 radiator replaced as both upper mount lugs broken,-stock
1 headlight-stock
 1 bumber iron-stock
 1 aircon fan-stock.
 so bit happer now it looks a bit better :)